Then why not institute a national photo ID program, or probably easier and cheaper, the use the existing SS database and re-issue SS cards with a photo?
That is a possibility... but, It's a lot of money spent to fix a problem that doesn't exist and put a further drain on Social Security.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Cicero, Cicero, Cicero. What happened this morning. Remember that little pill you are supposed to take every morning so that you don't get so... um... argumentative???
Weather the USA goes to a national voter registration card or not... Weather it's tied to social security or not... or Weather the GOP decides to push there anti-voter laws or not...
None of it has anything to do with US involvement in Libya. Try taking a nap... deep breaths... and remember... Every discussion doesn't need to be turned into one of your raging arguments.
Best of luck Cicero!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Cicero, Cicero, Cicero. What happened this morning. Remember that little pill you are supposed to take every morning so that you don't get so... um... argumentative???
Weather the USA goes to a national voter registration card or not... Weather it's tied to social security or not... or Weather the GOP decides to push there anti-voter laws or not...
None of it has anything to do with US involvement in Libya. Try taking a nap... deep breaths... and remember... Every discussion doesn't need to be turned into one of your raging arguments.
Best of luck Cicero!
Lighten up Box...You teed it up, I knocked it out. Get it? Fixing a problem that doesn't exist? Libya? Never a problem.
Since Acorn and their ilk were caught trying to stuff the ballot boxes with illegal votes I think a photo ID would stop someone from voting for another person fraudulently.
Since Acorn and their ilk were caught trying to stuff the ballot boxes with illegal votes I think a photo ID would stop someone from voting for another person fraudulently.
ACORN voter fraud charge was a very successful Right Wing Nut Scam. There were charges of voter fraud against ACORN... and the charges were dropped.
ACORN Cleared of Voter Fraud Charges 03 February 2011 by Jim Walrod Connecticut investigators have cleared ACORN of allegations of voter fraud brought by GOPer registrars in Bridgeport and Stamford. The report nearly two years in the making says there is no evidence that ACORN “had an institutional or systematic role in designing and implementing a scheme or strategy to fraudulently register or enroll electors” before the November 2, 2008 election.
The GOP Scam worked. ACORN lost it's federal funding although innocent of charges.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
times. CT 2008 The New York Post reported that ACORN submitted a voter registration card for a 7-year-old Bridgeport girl. Another 8,000 cards from the same city will be scrutinized for possible fraud. FL 2009 In September, 11 ACORN workers were accused of forging voter registration applications in Miami-Dade County during the last election. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement and the state attorney’s office scoured hundreds of suspicious applications provided by ACORN and found 197 of 260 contained personal ID information that did not match any living person. 2008 Election officials in Brevard County have given prosecutors more than 23 suspect registrations from ACORN. The state's Division of Elections is also investigating complaints in Orange and Broward Counties. 2004 A Florida Department of Law Enforcement spokesman said ACORN was “singled out” among suspected voter registration groups for a 2004 wage initiative because it was “the common thread” in the agency’s fraud investigations. IN 2008 Election officials in Indiana have thrown out more than 4,000 ACORN-submitted voter registrations after finding they had identical handwriting and included the names of many deceased Indianans, and even the name of a fast food restaurant. MI 2008 Clerks in Detroit found a "sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent [voter] applications" from the Michigan branch of ACORN. Those applications have been turned over to the U.S. Attorney's office for investigation. 2004 The Detroit Free Press reported that “overzealous or unscrupulous campaign workers in several Michigan counties are under investigation for voter-registration fraud, suspected of attempting to register nonexistent people or forging applications for already-registered voters.” ACORN-affiliate Project Vote was one of two groups suspected of turning in the documents. MO 2008 Nearly 400 ACORN-submitted registrations in Kansas City have been rejected due to duplication or fake information. 2007 Four ACORN employees were indicted in Kansas City for charges including identity theft and filing false registrations during the 2006 election. 2006 Eight ACORN employees in St. Louis were indicted on federal election fraud charges. Each of the eight faces up to five years in prison for forging signatures and submitting false information. 2003 Of 5,379 voter registration cards ACORN submitted in St. Louis, only 2,013 of those appeared to be valid. At least 1,000 are believed to be attempts to register voters illegally. MN 2004 During a traffic stop, police found more than 300 voter registration cards in the trunk of a former ACORN employee, who had violated a legal requirements that registration cards be submitted to the Secretary of State within 10 days of being filled out and signed. NC 2008 County elections officials have sent suspicious voter registration applications to the state Board of Elections. Many of the applications had similar or identical names, but with different addresses or dates of birth. 2004 North Carolina officials investigated ACORN for submitting fake voter registration cards. NM 2008 Prosecutors are investigating more than 1,100 ACORN-submitted voter registration cards after a county clerk found them to be fraudulent. Many of the cards included duplicate names and slightly altered personal information. 2005 Four ACORN employees submitted as many as 3,000 potentially fraudulent signatures on the group’s Albuquerque ballot initiative. A local sheriff added: “It’s safe to say the forgery was widespread.” 2004 An ACORN employee registered a 13-year-old boy to vote. Citing this and other examples, New Mexico State Representative Joe Thompson stated that ACORN was “manufacturing voters” throughout New Mexico. NV 2009 Nevada authorities indicted ACORN on 26 counts of voter registration fraud and 13 counts of illegally compensating canvassers. ACORN provided a bonus compensation program called “Blackjack” or “21+” for any canvasser who registered more than 20 voters per shift, which is illegal under Nevada law. 2008 Nevada state authorities raided ACORN's Las Vegas headquarters as part of a task force investigation of election fraud. Fraudulent registrations included players from the Dallas Cowboys. OH 2008 ACORN activists gave Ohio residents cash and cigarettes in exchange for filling out voter registration card, according to the New York Post. Some voters claim to have registered dozens of times, and one man says he signed up on 72 cards. 2007 A man in Reynoldsburg was indicted on two felony counts of illegal voting and false registration, after being registered by ACORN to vote in two separate counties. 2004 A grand jury indicted a Columbus ACORN worker for submitting a false signature and false voter registration form. In Franklin County, two ACORN workers submitted what the director of the board of election supervisors called “blatantly false” forms. In Cuyahoga County, ACORN and its affiliate Project Vote submitted registration cards that had the highest rate of errors for any voter registration group. PA 2009 Seven ACORN workers in the Pittsburgh area were indicted for submitting falsified voter registration forms. Six of the seven were also indicted for registering voters under an illegal quota system. 2008 State election officials have thrown out 57,435 voter registrations, the majority of which were submitted by ACORN. The registrations were thrown out after officials found "clearly fraudulent" signatures, vacant lots listed as addresses, and other signs of fraud. 2008 An ACORN employee in West Reading, PA, was sentenced to up to 23 months in prison for identity theft and tampering with records. A second ACORN worker pleaded not guilty to the same charges and is free on $10,000 bail. 2004 Reading’s Director of Elections received calls from numerous individuals complaining that ACORN employees deliberately put inaccurate information on their voter registration forms. The Berks County director of elections said voter fraud was “absolutely out of hand,” and added: “Not only do we have unintentional duplication of voter registration but we have blatant duplicate voter registrations.” The Berks County deputy director of elections added that ACORN was under investigation by the Department of Justice. TX 2008 In Harris County, nearly 10,000 ACORN-submitted registrations were found to be invalid, including many with clearly fraudulent addresses or other personal information. 2008 ACORN turned in the voter registration form of David Young, who told reporters “The signature is not my signature. It’s not even close.” His social security number and date of birth were also incorrect. VA 2005 In 2005, the Virginia State Board of Elections admonished Project Vote and ACORN for turning in a significant number of faulty voter registrations. An audit revealed that 83% of sampled registrations that were rejected for carrying false or questionable information were submitted by Project Vote. Many of these registrations carried social security numbers that exist for other people, listed non-existent or commercial addresses, or were for convicted felons in violation of state and federal election law.
In a letter to ACORN, the State Board of Elections reported that 56% of the voter registration applications ACORN turned in were ineligible. Further, a full 35% were not submitted in a timely manner, as required by law. The State Board of Elections also commented on what appeared to be evidence of intentional voter fraud. "Additionally,” they wrote, “information appears to have been altered on some applications where information given by the applicant in one color ink has been scratched through and re-entered in another color ink. Any alteration of a voter registration application is a Class 5 Felony in accordance with § 24.2-1009 of the Code of Virginia." WA 2007 Three ACORN employees pleaded guilty, and four more were charged, in the worst case of voter registration fraud in Washington state history. More than 2,000 fraudulent voter registration cards were submitted by the group during a voter registration drive. WI 2008 At least 33,000 ACORN-submitted registrations in Milwaukee have been called into question after it was found that the organizations had been using felons as registration workers, in violation of state election rules. Two people involved in the ongoing Wisconsin voter fraud investigation have been charged with felonies.
Shadow, That sounds like a very unbiased site that you got your info from... "Rotten ACORN" Fraud Map!
As we now know, ACORN was the subject of a Witch Hunt by the Right. It failed in that there was no concerted violations. ACORN was found to have committed no voter fraud... but not before it lost it's federal funding. A very successful smear campaign by the Right.
Try this site... not named "Rotten ACORN" but instead The San Francisco Bay Guardian: ACORN did not commit voter registration violations
One of the craziest aspects of the whole ACORN saga has been how rightwing lies about the organization have been repeated so often that they have come to replace the truth in most people's minds.
For instance, according to the Office of California Attorney General Jerry Brown, there are no reports of votes that were cast fraudulently, thanks to anything ACORN did.
As Brown's press secretary Christine Gasparac clarified today, "ACORN itself did not commit, counsel, or aid and abet registration violations. Some of the canvassers employed by ACORN and paid on per registration basis handed in phony registrations in order to make money and all were all caught and rejected by the Registrar."
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Capitol Confidential Big Government June 10, 2010 “ACORN HQ is wkg [working] for the Democratic Party,” so say the newly released FBI records. The handwritten notes provide a laundry list of underhanded activities related to elections in St.
Louis, Missouri, in 2007.
The documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act by Judicial Watch, a conservative government watchdog group in Washington, DC, concern the arrests of eight workers from the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, aka ACORN, for... me > Post: New Evidence of Dept. Of Justice Cover-up of ACORN Crimes Published on June, 10 2010 leave a comment
The good news is the FBI did gather much evidence showing serious allegations of corruption and voter registration fraud by ACORN. FBI documents released in March show serious allegations of corruption and voter registration fraud by ACORN. But Obama's Justice Department, had to protect the President's buddies.
While noting that ACORN had engaged in “questionable hiring and training practices,” Eric Holder's DOJ closed down the investigation in March 2009, claiming ACORN broke no laws. Home > Post: ACORN Pleads Guilty to Voter Registration Fraud in Nevada ACORN Pleads Guilty to Voter Registration Fraud in Nevada Published on April, 07 2011 leave a comment
Read it.
This is the only case in the country in which ACORN itself was named as a felony defendant.
The organization, a one-time community-based activist group, filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy after dozens of its workers allegedly committed voter fraud in cases that led to numerous convictions.
The truth is out there.... Read the full story: ACORN Pleads Guilty to Voter Registration Fraud in Nevada Home > Post: Just In Time For Thanksgiving: ACORN Racks Up 15th Voter Fraud Conviction This Year Published on November, 24 2010 leave a comment
Just In Time For Thanksgiving: ACORN Racks Up 15th Voter Fraud Conviction This Year
Former Milwaukee ACORN employee Kevin L.
Clancy (pictured above) was convicted of election fraud a few days ago.
Clancy’s conviction brings the total number of convictions for former ACORN workers to at least fifteen so far in 2010.
Clancy entered a guilty plea to playing a part “in a scheme to submit fraudulent voter registration applications,” said Wisconsin Attorney General J.B.
Van Hollen.
Clancy acknowledged submitting multiple voter registration applications for the same persons and registering himself and other voter... Read the full story: Just In Time For Thanksgiving: ACORN Racks Up 15th Voter Fraud Conviction... Home > Post: Wisconsin ends vote fraud Published on May, 26 2011 leave a comment
Voters will now have to show a photo ID to vote — just as they have to show when they buy beer or cigarettes.
First, let us review a story from last November.
From the Daily Caller last November : “Yet another former ACORN employee was convicted of voter fraud last week.
This brings the total number of convictions for former workers from the embattled group to at least 15 so far this year.” On Wednesday, Republican Governor Scott Walker signed into law a voter protection act that requires people to show a photo ID to vote.... Read the full story: Wisconsin ends vote fraud
Shadow, I will put just as much credence into your "Andrew Breitbart's BIG GOVERNMENT" data that you posted, as you would in my "Left Wing Extremist Pinko Communist Daily Info" site.
Really Shadow!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
18 Former ACORN Workers Have Been Convicted or Admitted Guilt in Election Fraud
Published November 26, 2010 The scandal-plagued ACORN may no longer exist, but its tarnished legacy lives on in court, as the activist group and its former employees face criminal punishment.
So far this year, at least 18 former workers have admitted guilt or been convicted on varying charges of election fraud. The punishment has ranged from probation to several months of prison time.
ACORN, once a powerful advocate for low-income and minority voters, shuttered its operations amid plummeting revenues in March, six months after conservative activists posing as a pimp and prostitute caught on video some of the group's employees offering them tax advice.
But the group is still facing charges in Nevada on conspiracy to commit the crime of compensation for registration of voters.The trial, originally scheduled to begin Monday, has been postponed likely until next year.
Former workers across the country already are being punished for their criminal activities.
In Miami, seven former ACORN voter registration canvassers were convicted of "false swearing-in an election," and sentenced to probation and community service and banned from participating in future political campaigns, according to court documents.
In Pennsylvania, six of seven former ACORN workers who were charged in an investigation were convicted of unsworn falsification and interference with election officials. Four have reached a plea agreement on reduced charges and will serve two years of probation. Cases against two others who entered pleas to reduced charges are pending.
Charges against the seventh, Eric Jordan, are not being prosecuted because Jordan has pleaded guilty to much more serious charges, including aggravated assault, resisting arrest and carrying firearms without a license.
In Milwaukee, three former ACORN workers have been convicted of election fraud.
Last week, Kevin Clancy was sentenced to 10 months in prison for his role in submitting falsified voter registration forms before the 2008 election. Clancy will start his sentence once he finishes another sentence he is currently serving for armed robbery.
Clancy's co-worker, Maria Miles, who pleaded guilty to election fraud in August, will be sentenced on Dec. 6.
In September, Frank Walton pleaded guilty to submitting 54 fake voter registrations during the 2008 presidential campaign. He faces up to 42 months in prison and a $10,000 fine when he's sentenced Dec. 6.
In Washington state, Kendra Lynn Thill was convicted in March of voter registration fraud in the 2006 midterm election. In Nevada, a former ACORN supervisor pleaded the equivalent of a no-contest in a case alleging that canvassers were illegally paid to register voters during the 2008 campaign. But while Amy Busefink's plea acknowledges the state had evidence for a conviction at trial, her lawyer said she still plans to challenge the constitutionality of the state law prohibiting paying canvassers based on the number of voter registration forms they turn in.
Yadda Yadda Yadda... And ACORN was convicted of??? Anything???
If a TeaParty employee is convicted of theft or voter fraud or assault... then that person is charged. If the Tea Party sanctioned the theft, fraud or assault... then the Tea Party will also be charged.
Some ACORN employees were found guilty of theft and fraud... but there was never an attempt to alter the election results.
From your post: While noting that ACORN had engaged in “questionable hiring and training practices,” Eric Holder's DOJ closed down the investigation in March 2009, claiming ACORN broke no laws.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Holder was protecting his bosses azz because Acorn and Obama are joined at the hip. So being as there were wide spread attempts at voter fraud, having a photo ID seems like a reasonable way to help prevent fraud in the future.
Holder was protecting his bosses azz because Acorn and Obama are joined at the hip. So being as there were wide spread attempts at voter fraud, having a photo ID seems like a reasonable way to help prevent fraud in the future.
ACORN would pay their temporary employees for every voter they signed up... So a few unscrupulous employees falsified voter registration cards to earn more money... BUT THAT ISN'T VOTER FRAUD... NO ONE VOTED WITH THOSE FALSIFIED VOUCHER. Contrary to the Conservative propaganda, there is very little voter fraud in elections. Where investigated, there are a few mistakes and a few cases of fraud as I posted above in post #'s 8, 10 & 12.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Mark Ritchie is so concerned that all votes be counted, he’s gone out of his way to ensure even dead voters’ ballots were among those counted on behalf of Franken.
Posted by James Richardson (Profile)
Thursday, June 4th at 10:50AM EDT 52 Comments
A review of Minnesota’s statewide database of registered voters revealed at least 2,812 deceased individuals voted in last November’s general election, according to a new report by the “traditional values” advocacy group Minnesota Majority.
After obtaining the list of voters who participated in November’s election, the group hired an independent firm who specializes in “death suppression” for direct mailing lists to review the data. The process, which involved matching names and addresses to state death records, bore troubling results.
According to Minnesota statute 201.13, the commissioner of health is to report monthly the name, address, date of birth, and county of residence of voting-age deceased residents to the secretary of state.
Presumably the commissioner of health would not issue incomplete reports (read: no motive), the blame then falls elsewhere – namely, at the feet of Minnesota Secretary of State Mark Ritchie, whose partisan leanings and curious alliance with vote fraud-magnet ACORN are becoming more salient by the day.
Deputy Secretary of State Jim Gelbmann argues the discrepancies unearthed by the group are merely the result of election workers updating the voter database with faulty information and were not instance of voter fraud.
“I would venture—put my reputation on—the fact that there are very few, if any, people impersonating dead people. You’re going to have human error,” he admitted.
But Jeff Davis, president of Minnesota Majority, believes the situation to be far less benign – and legal – than the Ritchie’s staff is willing to admit.
“The first problem with their explanation is that there should not even be deceased individuals on the voter rolls. The second problem with the secretary of state’s explanation is that it basically acknowledges the lack of controls in the way in which voter history updates are being captured and recorded,” he said. Adding, “If the proper controls had been in place, this situation would not have occurred.”
Whether the peculiar case of 2,800+ deceased individuals casting ballots is a matter of fraud, human error, or resurrection is of little importance at the moment. According to current recount totals, Democrat Al Franken leads Republican Norm Coleman by a mere 312 votes. If the Minnesota Supreme Court rules in favor of Coleman later this month, which most analysts agree won’t be the case, an additional 4,000 votes will be added to the mix.
When you’re down by such a slim margin, like Team Coleman knows all too well, every vote counts. When you live in a democracy, the very hallmark of which is fair and free elections, every vote should count. But when you live in Minnesota, where the chief election officer is a hyper-partisan louse, “every” vote counts, even after you’re dead!
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