GOP War on Voting Is Most Determined Disenfranchisement Effort Since Jim Crow.

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I have no problem allowing any US CITIZEN to vote. If it can be confirmed that they are a citizen on election day, then fine. But at this time, logistics say it can't. Clinton is such a hypocrite, while he blasts republicans for disenfranchising voters, he is promoting disenfranchising LEGITIMATE voters by diluting their vote because of his promotion of a "no checks and balances" voting policy.

I agree 55tbird, if you are a US citizen then you have the right to vote if not become a citizen or shut up.

In other words liberal democraps want people who are citizens of OTHER countries to come here and vote in our elections to destroy our country. Traitors should hang, that is plain and simple.

Voter Suppression:


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I didn't even watch the video.  But just by looking at the title I can see that a Democrat didn't waste an opportunity to pin the race card on their political opponents.  Not surprised.  

Looks like the Democrat narrative for 2012 election is to run against Bush, and call Republicans racists.  Democrats really need to motivate that minority vote - what better way than call everybody a racist.  

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Voter Suppression:


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1. You don't need to be a citizen to have a college ID
2. You don't need to be citizen to have a utility bill
3. You don't need to be a citizen to have a payroll stub

Yet the Dems think ALL of these "ID's" are sufficient for the right to vote.

As far as the "survey" of illegal voters in Ohio

1. A survey is not an investigation.. I'm mean what did they do, ask people if they were qualified to vote?
2. I don't think there is a big illegal immigrant problem in the state of Ohio.

Voter Fraud???
Solving A Problem That Doesn't Exist!

During the George W. Bush Administration’s concerted effort to curtail voter fraud, an eager Justice Department, over the span of six years, was able to secure a total of only 86 voter fraud convictions out of over 200 million votes cast, and only 14 of those convictions were of illegal immigrants. That is less than one instance of voter fraud per state, per year.

These GOP voter bills are aimed at one thing... keeping the poor, elderly and minorities from voting.

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Voter Fraud???
Solving A Problem That Doesn't Exist!

During the George W. Bush Administration’s concerted effort to curtail voter fraud, an eager Justice Department, over the span of six years, was able to secure a total of only 86 voter fraud convictions out of over 200 million votes cast, and only 14 of those convictions were of illegal immigrants. That is less than one instance of voter fraud per state, per year.

These GOP voter bills are aimed at one thing... keeping the poor, elderly and minorities from voting.

And the Dems goal is to let ANYONE vote, regardless of citizenship status.
I doubt that voter fraud was on the top on the Justice departments or anyone list from 2001 on. The concerted effort is in your imagination.

If GOP are trying to keep the elderly from voting, they are doing a piss poor job, as the elderly vote more often per capita than any other age group.

~ Indiana's photo ID law barred twelve retired nuns in South Bend, Indiana from voting in that state's 2008 Democratic primary election. The women lacked the photo IDs required under a state law that was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in April 2008. "This law was passed supposedly to prevent and deter voter fraud, even though there was no real record of serious voter fraud in Indiana."

~ Proponents of a similar law proposed for Texas In March 2009 also argued that photo identification was necessary to prevent widespread voter fraud. Opponents claim there is no evidence of such voter fraud in Texas, so no remedy is required, especially if such a remedy would decrease voting by senior citizens, the disabled, and lower-income residents. 1 million of the state's 13.5 million registered voters do not have a photo ID.

Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott spent $1.4 million investigating voter fraud but did not report any cases where a person tried to impersonate an eligible voter at a polling place—arguably the only kind of fraud that photo ID laws would prevent.

Fixing a problem that doesn't exist, while taking away the right to vote from millions of valid voters.

~ Missouri In some ways, the recent hunt for voter fraud began in Missouri in the 2000 election, the
crucible that proved formative for Attorney General John Ashcroft and Senator Kit Bond,
among others. Yet despite all the frenzy, the allegations yielded only six substantiated cases
of Missouri votes cast by ineligible voters, knowingly or unknowingly, except for those
votes permitted by court order. The six cases were double votes by four voters—two across
state lines and two within Missouri—amounting to an overall rate of 0.0003%. None of
these problems could have been resolved by requiring photo ID at the polls.

~ New Jersey Just before the 2005 election, partisan actors attempted to probe the accuracy of New
Jersey’s voter rolls by comparing election records for 2004 with death records and with the
rolls of other states. The allegations yielded only eight substantiated cases of individuals
knowingly casting invalid votes that counted—eight voters who voted twice. Given the
number of votes cast in these elections, this amounts to a rate of 0.0004%. None of these
problems could have been resolved by requiring photo ID at the polls.

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~ Indiana's photo ID law barred twelve retired nuns in South Bend, Indiana from voting in that state's 2008 Democratic primary election. The women lacked the photo IDs required under a state law that was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in April 2008. "This law was passed supposedly to prevent and deter voter fraud, even though there was no real record of serious voter fraud in Indiana."

~ Proponents of a similar law proposed for Texas In March 2009 also argued that photo identification was necessary to prevent widespread voter fraud. Opponents claim there is no evidence of such voter fraud in Texas, so no remedy is required, especially if such a remedy would decrease voting by senior citizens, the disabled, and lower-income residents. 1 million of the state's 13.5 million registered voters do not have a photo ID.

Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott spent $1.4 million investigating voter fraud but did not report any cases where a person tried to impersonate an eligible voter at a polling place—arguably the only kind of fraud that photo ID laws would prevent.

I'd support funding for a national photo ID program for all CITIZENS tomorrow. I can guarantee you, neither party would. The problem is not people IMPERSONATING legitimate voters, the issue is people being classified as a legitimate voter who are not eligible because of non-citizen status. When someone only provides a payroll stub for voter registration, how can you guarantee they are a citizen? Once they are registered, they are considered legitimate, whether the initial registration was fraudulent or not.

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I'd support funding for a national photo ID program for all CITIZENS tomorrow. I can guarantee you, neither party would. The problem is not people IMPERSONATING legitimate voters, the issue is people being classified as a legitimate voter who are not eligible because of non-citizen status. When someone only provides a payroll stub for voter registration, how can you guarantee they are a citizen? Once they are registered, they are considered legitimate, whether the initial registration was fraudulent or not.

If illegals voting were a serious (or even minor) problem, it would need to be addressed.  Illegals don't vote, and usually try to stay as far away as possible from any government system that might subject them to being identified as illegal and deported.

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If illegals voting were a serious (or even minor) problem, it would need to be addressed.  Illegals don't vote, and usually try to stay as far away as possible from any government system that might subject them to being identified as illegal and deported.

Then why not institute a national photo ID program, or probably easier and cheaper, the use the existing SS database and re-issue SS cards with a photo?