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benny salami
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Quoted from Shadow
The jury may have found that the state didn't have sufficient evidence to convict her of murder but the court of public opinion has found her guilty and she will have to face that every day for the rest of her life.


I hope you are right but that presumes a conscience. She was out partying while strangers were looking for her missing child. And will be released Thursday free as a bird. Maybe she will start looking for the real murderer ala OJ?

     A sad fact was that when the head of EqiSearch came to the house Casey didn't want to talk to him because it was "a waste of time". No mother, in her right mind, acts like this. I could understand an insanity defense but this ridiculous. She was over charged but there was enough for a conviction of child abuse.
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Caylee was in Casey's custody when she somehow died so child abuse/neglect should have been an appropriate charge.
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The little I saw of this 'circus'.....the defense did prove 'reasonable doubt'.
Without reasonable doubt, there would be many more innocent folks in prison and/or on death row!

A lot of decisive information is lost through the 'airwaves'.
We were NOT in the court room!!

IMHO of course!!


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Quoted from bumblethru
The little I saw of this 'circus'.....the defense did prove 'reasonable doubt'.
Without reasonable doubt, there would be many more innocent folks in prison and/or on death row!

A lot of decisive information is lost through the 'airwaves'.
We were NOT in the court room!!

IMHO of course!!


The criteria of what can be considered in a murder case is very narrow, by law, all the rest must be disregarded.  Who knows... if we were on that jury we may have made the same choice.


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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A lot of evidence was lost due to the length of time the body spent submerged in a swamp decaying, finger prints, DNA, and chloroform residue were all destroyed.
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Although not guilty of murder, a mother who loses track of her toddler for 31 days? Not a crime anymore? Then lies to the police about it?

Please, the three year old who wandered out of the daycare on Balltown for 15 minutes a few years ago was considered negligence and criminal.    

You're right though, the prosecution has one bite of the apple and they failed.
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I've followed the case from the beginning. From the beginning when Casey said Caylee was dropped off at the Nannys to when she said the Nanny kidnapped her to when Caylees remains found. Everyone else was guilty in Caseys eyes, she said her father and brother molested her, that her mother forgot to take the ladder down from the pool etc etc.

When she was questioned by the police after they realized she had NOT been working at Universal Studios as her parents thought, the investigators even asked her if an accident happened, that they know sometimes they do and she continued on and on about Zanny the Nanny. What didn't come out in court was she had stolen hundreds of checks from her Mom, had stolen money from her grandparents bank account, stole checks from her "best" friend and on and on.

I still cannot comprehend that she did not at the very LEAST get charged with child neglect, what parent does not freak when a child is missing for minutes or hours. Her daughter was gone 31 days and would not have been reported by Casey but for the mother tracking her down and finding out Caylee was missing.

I did not think she would get first degree but manslaugter and child abuse.

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Turn on your porch lights for Caylee at 9pm. The defense is drinking champagne after calling this OJ II a victory for justice. This was all televised but the simpletons on the jury could not follow the complex prosecution's case. The lead prosecutor has announced his retirement. A victory only for the defense expert that picked this jury.

     A nation where if you spank a child you face prison but here NOTHING. She will be released on Thursday. Then watch for movie and book deals. A national shame. Another black eye for American justice.
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  She will be released on Thursday. Then watch for movie and book deals. A national shame. Another black eye for American justice.


So you would have voted 'guilty' and put a woman to death on 'circumstantial evidence'????? Both sides nullified the other with opposite forensic evidence. A little girl is dead and the prosecution could not prove beyond a shadow of a doubt not only how she died, but who killed her. They tried the case on theory only!!

The jury came to the correct decision with the evidence they were given. Clearly not enough evidence to put this woman to death!  imho

I hope they don't call you to jury duty any time too soon!


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A 2 year old was murdered and thrown in a swamp like trash. I know Zany The Nanny did it! Circumstantial evidence is enough for any conviction. It's been enough for over a hundred years. Plenty of evidence for conviction-the jury couldn't comprehend it and couldn't wait to wrap it up.

     Again the standard is beyond a reasonable doubt NOT beyond a shadow of a doubt. You sound like another one waiting for the Youtube video of the murder. She was overcharged but should have been convicted of a lesser charge. No wonder they had to go out of County to find these morons. A total disgrace for the jury system, for American jurisprudence, for the Orlando community.
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A 2 year old was murdered and thrown in a swamp like trash. I know Zany The Nanny did it! Circumstantial evidence is enough for any conviction. It's been enough for over a hundred years. Plenty of evidence for conviction-the jury couldn't comprehend it and couldn't wait to wrap it up.

     Again the standard is beyond a reasonable doubt NOT beyond a shadow of a doubt. You sound like another one waiting for the Youtube video of the murder. She was overcharged but should have been convicted of a lesser charge. No wonder they had to go out of County to find these morons. A total disgrace for the jury system, for American jurisprudence, for the Orlando community.


This is a horrific tragedy.....however.....the prosecution built their case on THEORY.....not on facts. Both sides rebutted  the other side with opposing forensics. You can NOT expect a jury....any jury....to sentence someone to death on THEORY and opposing forensics!! That's not how the justice system is supposed to work. And that is why there are so many folks in prison and on death row that are exonerated after decades.

This jury did the right thing with the information they were given! IMHO


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So you would have voted 'guilty' and put a woman to death on 'circumstantial evidence'????? Both sides nullified the other with opposite forensic evidence. A little girl is dead and the prosecution could not prove beyond a shadow of a doubt not only how she died, but who killed her. They tried the case on theory only!!

The jury came to the correct decision with the evidence they were given. Clearly not enough evidence to put this woman to death!  imho

I hope they don't call you to jury duty any time too soon!


There would have been two phases of the trial. The conviction phase and the penalty phase. They could have convicted her of 1st degree murder and in the penalty phase NOT given her the death penalty. Let's not cloud the issue with the fallacy that they HAD to sentence her to death.
This case was lost at jury selection. The jurors had their minds made up before opening statements.


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There would have been two phases of the trial. The conviction phase and the penalty phase. They could have convicted her of 1st degree murder and in the penalty phase NOT given her the death penalty. Let's not cloud the issue with the fallacy that they HAD to sentence her to death.
This case was lost at jury selection. The jurors had their minds made up before opening statements.


I totally disagree! The prosecution had a weak case right from the beginning. What were you going to convict her on?
THEORY?
They proved nothing and the jurors were smart enough to see that.

We have friends and family members that are either attorneys or judges. They all agreed that the prosecution didn't have a solid case and that the jurors decision was based on a case with 'holes in it'! And I agree!

Did she kill the little girl? Perhaps, but we'll never know. And the prosecution didn't prove it either cause even they didn't know! Their case was on theory only! The prosecution did a crappy job on this one!


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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benny salami
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This is a horrific tragedy


Huh? Like 9-11 was a tragedy? It was a planned, calculated murder. The tragedy is what the jury came back with. TBird's is right. They needed a youtube video.
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To convict Casey of murder the jury would have had to see her fingerprints on the duct tape, the plastic bag of remains, and her DNA in the bag. The prosecution did a good job with what they had to work with.
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