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I found this one on that site. They don't and never did provide mammogram services!!!! So wth is she talking about? It's all bullcrap!



When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
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I found this one on that site. They don't and never did provide mammogram services!!!! So wth is she talking about? It's all bullcrap!




NOW FOR THE TRUTH

OK Bumble, and anyone else that wants to SEE the truth...
watch the video from LIVE ACTION that was posted above.

Watch what is said from 0:16 seconds thru 0:28 seconds.
now watch what is said on the video from UTube of the Joy Behar show... THE ORIGINAL VIDEO and see for yourself.
Watch this ORIGINAL VIDEO from 0:16 seconds thru 0:30
YOU WILL NOT SEE OR HEAR THE WORD MAMMOGRAM as you did in the edited version from LiveAction.

As I posted... LiveAction changed the video to promote their EXTREMIST ANTI ABORTION AGENDA.
You want proof... This IS Proof!







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Boxy...at 4:09 into the video...did she or did she not, as the president/ceo of planned parenthood say that women would lose mammogram screening?????


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There are medical procedures to help remove the dangerous and unwanted.


So an abortion is like say...A cure!!  If you have unprotected sex and contract a STD, the doc prescribes an anti biotic - problem solved.  If you have unprotected sex and contract a pregnancy, the doc prescribes an abortion, terminates the pregnancy(or bacteria as box views it) - problem solved.  

I now see the bacteria/human fetus similarities through the eyes of the warped and demented.


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Boxy...at 4:09 into the video...did she or did she not, as the president/ceo of planned parenthood say that women would lose mammogram screening?????


"Women will lose their health care access... mammograms"

If a woman goes to PP for her health care, and millions go ONLY to PP because that is all that they can afford...
a woman who has a breast exam in PP (which they do preform) and has a questionable lump, PP will REFER them to a mammogram provider who will preform the procedure at a reduced or no cost.
But she never states that PP actually preforms the mammogram.  IF pp funding is cut... these women won't have access to affordable mammograms.
The video you posted was altered... edited at the time stamp that I posted.  They took the word "Mammogram" from later in the video and cut it into the part at ):28 seconds.

PP preforms abortions... about 3% of their services entail abortions... BUT MOST PP CLINICS DO NOT PERFORM ABORTIONS.  They will refer you to a clinic that does.  They don't preform mammograms at PP but they will refer you to a service that does.



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So an abortion is like say...A cure!!  If you have unprotected sex and contract a STD, the doc prescribes an anti biotic - problem solved.  If you have unprotected sex and contract a pregnancy, the doc prescribes an abortion, terminates the pregnancy(or bacteria as box views it) - problem solved.  

If you have unprotected sex, and get a STD, you can go to PP and with out cost or low cost, have the disease treated.  AREN'T YOU GLAD THEY DO TREAT IT?
If you have unprotected sex and get pregnant by your drunk husband who didn't bother to use a condom...
or by your abusive father or uncle who abuses you...
or by a rapist...
or if you use a condom but it fails..
or you are trying the Catholic system of Rhythm Method and as usual, it fails...

You have affordable, confidential access to prevent a pregnancy.   AREN'T YOU GLAD YOU DO?



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For those on this board who rely on Right Wing Extremist websites for their Planned Parenthood information, you might want to visit their website to find out exactly what they do offer:

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/who-we-are/planned-parenthood-glance-5552.htm

Some interesting information:
~ "One in five women in the U.S. has visited a Planned Parenthood health center at least once in her life." ~


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You have affordable, confidential access to prevent a pregnancyBIRTH.   AREN'T YOU GLAD YOU DO?



There, I fixed it for you.


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http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/who-we-are/planned-parenthood-glance-5552.htm

Some interesting information:
~ "One in five women in the U.S. has visited a Planned Parenthood health center at least once in her life." ~


You discredit any information that comes from this LiveAction website, calling them "extreme" and who stand to profit not one dime from their information.  Yet, you link Plannedparenthood as the voice of truth and non-bias.  This is the organization that is in business selling on demand abortion.  Isn't that like quoting a statement by EXXON Mobil supporting drilling for oil in ANWAR?


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You discredit any information that comes from this LiveAction website, calling them "extreme" and who stand to profit not one dime from their information.  Yet, you link Plannedparenthood as the voice of truth and non-bias.  This is the organization that is in business selling on demand abortion.

LiveAction discredits LiveAction... I  pointed to their own video, which is a lie in itself.  
They are extreme in that they knowingly lie and discredit PP because they think their lie is OK if they are "doing gods work".

You state that LiveAction "stand to profit not one dime from their information".  Just as PP is a non profit, both groups don't gain financially from their services.  One group provides lies and propaganda... the other group provides women's health services.



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Cicero- and bumble for that matter- let me ask you a simple question, All I ask is that you think very carefully about the answer-

Your daughter has told you she is pregnant.  You have explained how you clearly feel but she is still going to have an abortion. What do you say  then and how do you then treat your daughter  after ? take as much time as you like.


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  Just as PP is a non profit, both groups don't gain financially from their services.  


Do you know what nonprofit means?  OK, maybe I used the wrong word, and you misunderstood, Planned Parenthood gains FUNDING, or CONTRIBUTION, whatever you want to call it, but there are many people earning their livelihood by selling abortion.  So again, I ask, why would I listen to propaganda from the Planned Parenthood website when they stand to make money selling abortions? (notice how I stayed away from the word profit)   Instead of EXXON Mobil, I'll use Catholic Charities as my example.  Would you quote information on abortion from the NON-PROFIT Catholic Charities as an unbiased source?


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Do you know what nonprofit means?  OK, maybe I used the wrong word, and you misunderstood, Planned Parenthood gains FUNDING, or CONTRIBUTION, whatever you want to call it, but there are many people earning their livelihood by selling abortion.  So again, I ask, why would I listen to propaganda from the Planned Parenthood website when they stand to make money selling abortions? (notice how I stayed away from the word profit)   Instead of EXXON Mobil, I'll use Catholic Charities as my example.  Would you quote information on abortion from the NON-PROFIT Catholic Charities as an unbiased source?


This is one of Cicero's all day rants.  He'll just keep on going no matter what the FACTS say.  The FACT that only 3% of PP's services is abortion, and 97% is health services... he is willing to prevent the 97% from health services to further his political agenda. (BTW, PP Prevents more abortions than they preform)

Cicero... In your opinion... Was the video edited?  Was it edited to portray PP as a mammogram provider?  Then portray PP as not providing mammogram services???
Do you believe it's a good policy or acceptable to lie or promote propaganda like this about PP just to further your political agenda???

That is the horse you are backing in this race.  



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Cicero- and bumble for that matter- let me ask you a simple question, All I ask is that you think very carefully about the answer-

Your daughter has told you she is pregnant.  You have explained how you clearly feel but she is still going to have an abortion. What do you say  then and how do you then treat your daughter  after ? take as much time as you like.


Well, first off, I would tell her this information WELL before she was sexually active.  Second, I wouldn't tell her how I feel.  I would tell her the truth about what a pregnancy is.  Not based on my emotion, but what a pregnancy is.  It's not bacteria, it's not a virus, and it’s not a liver cell. IT'S A HUMAN LIFE.  Thirdly, I would to tell her that there are other options besides abortion.  

First option - she would know that her family would help with caring for the child.
Second option - I would make her aware of giving up the child for adoption.  

Then I will explain how blessed she is to have the gift to give life.  As we know, many couples are unable to bare children for biological reasons.  

Then it would be up to her.  

If you think that my opposition to abortion would lead me to end a relationship with one my children, that isn't the case.  I'm fairly confident that I can educate my child to the facts of pregnancy before the liberal statists like Box can warp their minds and indoctrinate them into believing that killing the unborn on demand is as easy and common as getting a tooth pulled.


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he is willing to prevent the 97% from health services to further his political agenda. (BTW, PP Prevents more abortions than they preform)


Box, can you please find the quote where I said that????

I didn't think so.

Let me try quoting box for something he never said.

Box would like nothing more that to make fetus soup out of all the aborted fetuses that planned parenthood perfoms.


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