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Those statistics were provided by none other than the left-learning version of Fox News, thinkprogress.org.
The average American doesn't believe it. The one area where Romney consistently out-polls Obama is handling of the Economy.

It's the social side of things that has  Romney in trouble...immigration policy, Medicare, Abortion, health care.


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FACT CHECK: FIRST LADY'S FALSE FAIRY TALE OF STRUGGLE...

"First Lady Michelle Obama’s pitch to voters last night relied on the premise that she and her husband understand what it is to struggle to make ends meet. She spoke movingly about their early years--about how a young Barack Obama drove a car that was “rusted out" and found his furniture “in a dumpster,” how they both came from families that had to “scrape by.” Her fairy tale--however well-delivered--was one great, big, colorful lie.

Both Michelle Robinson and Barack Obama began their adult lives with a leg up on the rest of America. They attended elite schools: Michelle went to Whitney Young, the public magnet school for Chicago’s upper class, while Barack attended Punahou, the private prep school for the top stratum of Hawaiian society. They were accepted to Ivy League schools despite undistinguished credentials, and both attended Harvard Law School.

“[B]elieve it or not, when we were first married, our combined monthly student loan bills were actually higher than our mortgage,” Michelle said. That sounds like a raw deal--but in fact reflects their fortunate circumstances. They had both just graduated from a very expensive law school, and their combined income from cushy law firm jobs dwarfed the repayments. Barack also soon enjoyed a second salary from the University of Chicago.

They had expensive tastes, reflected in the $277,500 two-bedroom condo they bought in 1993--a high price even by today’s standards. Several years later, they moved into their $1.65 million mansion in Hyde Park--with the help of fraudster Tony Rezko. Barack often told a story of hardship on the campaign trail in 2008 about having his credit card declined--once. The fact that he thought this counted as real hardship speaks volumes.

As her husband moved onto the national political stage, Michelle Obama began to enjoy a lavish lifestyle at taxpayer expense, directly and indirectly. When Barack Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate, he obtained a $1 million earmark for the University of Chicago Hospital--and his wife’s salary as Vice President for Community Affairs jumped from $121,910 to $316,962. Her job: pushing poor, uninsured patients to other hospitals.

As First Lady, Michelle Obama has lived high on the hog while the rest of the country has suffered through an extraordinary recession. In 2010, she and her entourage decamped to Spain for a lavish vacation. That summer, the Obamas encouraged Americans to visit the Gulf coast after the Deepwater Horizon oil spill, which threatened tourism in the region. They promptly jetted off to Maine for their own summer holiday.

This summer, the Obamas skipped their usual summer trip to the wealthy playground of Martha’s Vineyard--months after Michelle and her daughters had enjoyed an expensive winter skiing trip in Aspen. And, of course, there are the frequent pilgrimages to Hawaii, Some of their family’s comfort, of course, comes from private income, principally Barack Obama’s book sales--yet even that wealth is a spin-off of Obama’s political career.

If, as the Democrats eagerly pointing out, Mitt Romney enjoyed the privilege of private wealth, the Obamas have enjoyed privilege funded by public money and public life. And until entering the national spotlight, they gave little to charity, contributing instead to a church that preached racial grievance. “[T]ruth matters,” Michelle Obama told the nation last night. That, too, is a lie--because so far, she has evaded it without consequence."
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Yes, We’re Better Off Than We Were Four Years Ago



I thought the evil corporations were the ones that we had to make sure we penalized.  Now, we're showing that they're succeeding, so that's supposed to be a sign that this administration is doing a wonderful job?  Shouldn't those numbers be farther in the red, with them paying more to the government, so that the "regular folk" didn't have to pay so much?  I mean, wouldn't it be better if they paid another 65 billion in taxes to round it off to a cool 1/4 trillion?  Then it would be a success?


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Michelle hates those 1% people.
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Quoted from 1975
A speech demonizing the rich


"They didn't begrudge anyone else's success or care that others had much more than they did...
in fact, they admired it."

and
"And he believes that when you've worked hard, and done well, and walked through that
doorway of opportunity…you do not slam it shut behind you…you reach back, and you give other
folks the same chances that helped you succeed."


I didn't read or hear any "demonizing"


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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I don't mind giving someone the same chance to succeed but I do mind when they just take my money and give it to people who have no intention of ever working and earning their own money.
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Quoted from 1975





Coincidentally, every time the top tax rate has been lowered, the national debt has climbed.

The top tax bracket has been reduced by 50% since 1981.

Ronald Raegan started it with a 40% cut, when there was barely a deficit or a national debt.

The Republicans went even further in 1989.

Clinton took a little back, then Bush gave them the full 50% discount and the deficit climbed to 10 billion before he left office.

Obama was handed a totally collapsing economy and an unbelievable amount of debt.

http://home.adelphi.edu/sbloch/deficits.html

The debt means nothing.

The deficit is the only issue that will affect anyone's lives.

Obama got blindsided with the bailout in 2009 running a whopping 1.8 trillion deficit.

He improved in 2010 with 1.6 trillion.

In 2011 he dropped the deficit further to 1.2 trillion.

And in 2012 the deficit should finish below 2011.

Sure, let's give tax cuts to the top earners.

It hasn't worked at all, but hey, the government is mentally ill, so what the heck.

The National debt is directly attributable in tax cuts for top wage earners.

Restoring tax rates for all wage earners to 1979 rates would virtually dissolve the deficit.

Then it wouldn't be singling out the top earners, but would be restoring tax rates to what they were for all.

Obviously this would in fact, be a massive tax increase on top earners and nothing on anyone else, since no one else got a tax cut.
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A convention-goer stands on the convention floor on the first day of the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, North Carolina, September 4, 2012. REUTERS/Jessica Rinaldi (UNITED STATES - Tags: POLITICS ELECTIONS)


http://news.yahoo.com/photos/c.....photo-230750114.html
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"They didn't begrudge anyone else's success or care that others had much more than they did...
in fact, they admired it."

and
"And he believes that when you've worked hard, and done well, and walked through that
doorway of opportunity…you do not slam it shut behind you…you reach back, and you give other
folks the same chances that helped you succeed."


I didn't read or hear any "demonizing"






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New York Times:
"One of the most surprising statistics of the night came from former President Bill Clinton.
Since 1961, 24 million private-sector jobs were added during the 28 years that Republicans
held the White House. But when Democrats were president, that figure almost doubled -- 42 million
private-sector jobs created over 24 years.

That claim appears to be true; it is backed up by a recent Bloomberg News analysis and federal labor statistics."

A Startling Truth Amid the Hyperbole/ NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09.....ext.html?_r=2&hp


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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"They didn't begrudge anyone else's success or care that others had much more than they did...
in fact, they admired it."

and
"And he believes that when you've worked hard, and done well, and walked through that
doorway of opportunity…you do not slam it shut behind you…you reach back, and you give other
folks the same chances that helped you succeed."


I didn't read or hear any "demonizing"


Not demonizing, but rather rhetorical bullshit that means absolutely nothing.  Where is this "door of opportunity" please define it....How does it get open or shut and who opens it and shuts it?  The president of the United States?  Who opened it for Barack to get into the private school in Hawaii and then Harvard?  


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