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Box A Rox
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c'mon Box, does it really make a difference?  


Does it make a difference in who I vote for? Of course not.
But will it make a difference to some veteran friends of mine... Maybe.
Every vote that I convince to change sides is one more vote for Obama, One less vote for Mitt... A gain of 2.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Does it make a difference in who I vote for? Of course not.
But will it make a difference to some veteran friends of mine... Maybe.
Every vote that I convince to change sides is one more vote for Obama, One less vote for Mitt... A gain of 2.


You must have a bunch of vet friends other states than NY, that is a lock for Barry. It doesn't matter if Obama wins by 10 or 10 million, all the electoral college votes go to him.


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You must have a bunch of vet friends other states than NY, that is a lock for Barry. It doesn't matter if Obama wins by 10 or 10 million, all the electoral college votes go to him.


Yup.  In Colorado, Florida, Tennessee (a hard sell   )  N. Carolina, a few in NY and one in Afghanistan.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Does it make a difference in who I vote for? Of course not.
But will it make a difference to some veteran friends of mine... Maybe.
Every vote that I convince to change sides is one more vote for Obama, One less vote for Mitt... A gain of 2.


a CHOICE that you all made (unless drafted of course) and RESPECTED as such choice by a human being...

FULLY knowing what ya'll signed up for....regardless of president....

changing political scapes and society are your dirge.....

no different than the respect for mechanic, fire fighter, clerk, teacher, nurse, septic tank pumper.....

IT'S A CHOICE....

politically a soldier has no more say than any other American....

but I RESPECT THE INDIVIDUAL CHOICE....

unfortunately it doesn't matter who is in office any more....there are no more 'wars' of boots on the ground that make
a difference....IRAQ didn't make a difference....

war is now in this realm...banking, treaties, international business etc....

soldiers are now fodder for elections and heart string yanking....

know where you are, know what you chose to do....it's ALWAYS YOURS....

there are no innocents just different degrees of responsibility.....and I don't mean this out of of disrespect, but I do
mean it from and individual soul view....

good job ladies and gentlemen in choosing your profession...because I didn't choose it as most American's didn't


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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So was Gov. Romney lying to the government when he signed filings with the Securities and Exchange committee identifying himself as the Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and sole shareholder of Bain during all of 1999, 2000 and 2001 -- intensifying the controversy over Romney's true status during those years with respect to the operations of Bain?

Or is he lying to the American people to avoid having to accept even more responsibility than is already rightly his for Bain's dubious business practices? That seems more likely.

While Gov. Romney flits around London's Olympics this week, the controversy continues at home over whether and when he supposedly "left" Bain to begin work on the Salt Lake City Winter Olympics in 2002. Romney says he did actually retire then and had no involvement in the management of Bain after that time. Thus he claims he cannot be held responsible for Bain's controversial business conduct during 1999-2001 -- the plant closings, firings and sending jobs overseas -- that so many find disturbing.

When critics pointed out the inconsistency between Romney's claimed non-involvement and the legal filings he signed as the Chairman/CEO of Bain, Romney claimed he was being accused of committing a crime by lying to the SEC. That's not true. He was being accused of telling the truth to the SEC and lying to the American people to avoid having to accept even more responsibility than is already rightly his for Bain's dubious business practices.

A corporation's bylaws (its rules of operation) establish who runs its operations by setting forth the duties of its corporate officers. Bain was incorporated in Delaware. Delaware corporate bylaws normally provide that "the Chief Executive Officer shall have general supervision and direction of the business affairs of the corporation [and] shall be responsible for corporate policy and strategy." So -- a couple questions for Romney:
1.How do Bain's corporate bylaws describe the powers and duties of its CEO?
2.If Romney was not the CEO of Bain during 1999-2001, who was? On what date did the Bain Board appoint that other person CEO?
3.If during 1999-2001 someone other than Romney was Bain's CEO, why were the SEC filings not correct when filed or later corrected?

Here's an educated guess: Romney knew he was not coming back to Bain when he left for the Utah Olympics, but he was nevertheless the CEO and owned 100 percent of the company. He had a huge personal economic interest to protect. He keeps the title and the power of the CEO position so that when he finally negotiates his formal exit and his payout package, he controls the process. It was about lining his pockets, which is what has made him one of the wealthiest major party presidential candidates in the history of American politics.

At least he did not commit a felony by lying to the SEC; he was Chairman and CEO of Bain as the SEC filings he signed stated. But that means he is not telling the truth now in claiming he had no involvement in Bain's business during 1999-2001, because Bain's corporate bylaws charged him as its CEO with direction and supervision of that corporation's business, policies and strategy. The layoffs, bankruptcies, off-shorings and other reprehensible things that Bain is becoming famous for absolutely happened on his watch. When is he going to defend them?

William S. Lerach was for three decades one of the nation's leading class action attorneys specializing in corporate securities misbehavior. He lives in San Diego.


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Thank you Mitt.....after lsitening to your speeches and missteps during your overseas trip. And after listening to you speaking in Israel making policyand threats and acting as if you are the President of the US, you have succeeded in making up my mind on voting...and SURPRISE...it's not gonna be a loose canon like you!


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Seems like he just can't pull his foot out of his mouth....what a wonderful selection for PRES....NOT !!!!!!
http://www.boston.com/news/wor.....ises_cash_in_israel/


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Seems like he just can't pull his foot out of his mouth....what a wonderful selection for PRES....NOT !!!!!!
http://www.boston.com/news/wor.....ises_cash_in_israel/


Who gives a sh*t what Palestinians think?  Aren't we done being persuaded by hyper-sensitive political correctness?  America if $15 trillion in debt and running a $1 trillion annual deficit, a Federal budget hasn't been passed since Obama has been President, and this is while the first 2 years of the Obama presidency Democrats controlled all 3 houses.  And instead of passing a budget, he decided use that time to pass legislation that FORCES Americans to buy a corporate product or be penalized.  

I can think of MANY other reasons I am not voting for Mitt OR Obama.  I am not going to vote for different degrees of totalitarianism.


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Who gives a sh*t what Palestinians think?  Aren't we done being persuaded by hyper-sensitive political correctness?  America if $15 trillion in debt and running a $1 trillion annual deficit, a Federal budget hasn't been passed since Obama has been President, and this is while the first 2 years of the Obama presidency Democrats controlled all 3 houses.  And instead of passing a budget, he decided use that time to pass legislation that FORCES Americans to buy a corporate product or be penalized.  

I can think of MANY other reasons I am not voting for Mitt OR Obama.  I am not going to vote for different degrees of totalitarianism.



Cicero isn't voting for Rep or Dem... YEeeehhhhaaaaa!
I'm always happy when a Right Winger decides not to vote or not to vote for any viable candidate.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Governor Romney was absolutely correct -- the US has long accepted that Jerusalem is the legitimate capital of Israel and that eventually our embassy should be built there.   If the Palestinians are upset- they can go back to Palestine which lies on the EAST bank of the Jordan River -- that is what the nation of Jordan was created to be -- the Palestinian State.


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Cicero isn't voting for Rep or Dem... YEeeehhhhaaaaa!
I'm always happy when a Right Winger decides not to vote or not to vote for any viable candidate.  


Right Winger?  I oppose the "war on drugs" and criminalization of drugs.  How is that right wing?  That used to be a left wing LIBERAL hippie issue, now it looks like we are again moving the bar and redefining what it means to be left and right winger to make sure we confuse people and continue to polarize the country.  The system only continues to work if you convince people that they are pigeon holed in one of two groups - left or right.  

I'm glad I can make you happy though...It is quite pathetic that my voting choice gives you joy.  I would find a hobby or something if I were you - finding happiness in politics and rooting for parties is a sad place to be.


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Governor Romney was absolutely correct -- the US has long accepted that Jerusalem is the legitimate capital of Israel and that eventually our embassy should be built there.   If the Palestinians are upset- they can go back to Palestine which lies on the EAST bank of the Jordan River -- that is what the nation of Jordan was created to be -- the Palestinian State.

Did you evne bother to read the article!!!!!

And to Mr. Cicero...YES, it all matters, and that is why you are so out of touch becuase you can not understand that.


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And to Mr. Cicero...YES, it all matters, and that is why you are so out of touch becuase you can not understand that.


Please explain to me HOW this affects everyday Americans?  Help me become "in touch" with such dire issues that are 10K miles away in another sovereign nation with their own political systems to resolve their own issue.


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Sorry Cicero, but that's the root of the problem....you don't get it and no one can explain it to you to your satisfaction. How can you believe that Intrnational affairs DO NOT have a direct impact on our lives, our ecoomy, our children, our future..... Are you living in that small of a vacuum that you don't get it? I know that I can't make yo uumnderstand, and I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain.


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Sorry Cicero, but that's the root of the problem....you don't get it and no one can explain it to you to your satisfaction. How can you believe that Intrnational affairs DO NOT have a direct impact on our lives, our ecoomy, our children, our future..... Are you living in that small of a vacuum that you don't get it? I know that I can't make yo uumnderstand, and I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain.


Thanks for the platitudes...There are 196 recognized nations on earth; it seems to me that U.S. policy toward international affairs puts a disproportionate emphasis on Palestine and Israel.  The international borders have been re-drawn numerous times, they were re-drawn after WWI, and they were re-drawn after WWII.  Watching U.S. media and our politicians, you would swear that these are the only two countries that have territorial disputes and tensions.

You know what they say, 'you are what you eat', and when you consume American media, you sh*t out Israel-Palestine propaganda.


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