32 of the 33 developed nations have universal health care, with the United States being the lone exception.
Countries that DO have universal health care (and the year started) for their citizens:
You know what's great about your list. America was the world’s salvation from these countries and oppressive socialist governments. Just think, Europeans and Asian, and South Americans were FLOCKING to America, and any logical person would ask...WHY? Since ALL these countries were offering cradle to grave medicine, why would they immigrate to America where the capitalist pigs expect you to pay for your own heath care? Maybe they wanted to live FREE and understood that universal health care is window dressing for government control.
Listed on there are countries like Bahrain, Greece, Ireland, and Japan - great examples of success. Ohhh...Look Germany and Japan went to universal heath care in 1938 and 1941, hmmm....then there citizens were frog marched into a world war shortly after.
And if there's so many countries that already have national healthcare, then why is it that all the leaders from foreign nations come here to get the care that they receive?
Under the topic, "There's no such thing as a free lunch", how about listing the TOTAL tax burden for citizens in those countries??
Based on a quick count, it seems most of these countries depend on US defense spending to keep them "developed"
At the present time, the USA pays the most for health care but many are not insured or under-insured. In the list of people that want HCR repealed... I would vote to repeal Obama care if there was a Single Payer Option as first proposed by Obama.
I'm part of the "wish it would be repealed" percentage in your poll.
If you want to see Negative Numbers... try polling the GOP's infamous "VOUCHER HEALTH CARE PLAN"!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
And if there's so many countries that already have national healthcare, then why is it that all the leaders from foreign nations come here to get the care that they receive?
The Rich go where they want for health care... some for the Luxury US accommodations for the wealthy. 45 million Americans have no health care. If you have no health insurance, your options are sometimes: 1. Die (the Republican plan) or 2. Travel abroad for health care you can afford.
See links: ~ She found several high quality hospitals vying for her business, at a fraction of the U.S. cost. Within a month,New Delhi, India surgeons at Max Hospital fixed her heart for "under $10,000 total, including travel." (CNN) http://articles.cnn.com/2009-0.....nt-wing?_s=PM:HEALTH
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Tom Hiland, a 57-year-old commercial real estate developer in Denver chose to travel to India for surgery to correct a heart murmur. Having lost his insurance in 2003, the cost for the procedure in the United States could be $150,000. The mitral valve replacement, which used the latest technology and was performed by an American-trained surgeon, and a 23 NIGHT HOSPITAL STAY cost $15,000. (ABC News) http://abcnews.go.com/Business/IndustryInfo/story?id=2320839&page=2
The Rich have always had health care... for the rest of us, especially the 45 million uninsured Americans, travel for health care will SAVE YOUR LIFE.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
At the present time, the USA pays the most for health care but many are not insured or under-insured. In the list of people that want HCR repealed... I would vote to repeal Obama care if there was a Single Payer Option as first proposed by Obama.
I'm part of the "wish it would be repealed" percentage in your poll.
If you want to see Negative Numbers... try polling the GOP's infamous "VOUCHER HEALTH CARE PLAN"!
I still haven't seen actual dollar costs for health care when you compare the US and "universal health care" nations....You can certainly quantify what the US citizen pays, but what about the other countries? All I can say is this, when you look at this chart, its pretty clear health care isn't free in those countries http://www.photius.com/rankings/tax_burden_country_ranks_2009.html
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
The USA tax burden is listed... but the numbers do NOT show the cost of 45 million Americans who have NO HEALTH INSURANCE AND NO HEALTH CARE. Hardly a comparison. Just think of all the money that is saved by the deaths of those Americans with out health care. Good thing they died before they cost us any Tax Dollars.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The Rich go where they want for health care... some for the Luxury US accommodations for the wealthy. 45 million Americans have no health care. HEALTH INSURANCE
More LIES from Box...It is illegal to deny medical care in America. There is Medicaid, Medicare, and SSI already in place for those with low income people. Of those 45 Million, UNINSURED, how many CAN afford to pay for their own health care but choose not to? If a person has the means to purchase insurance, and chooses not to because they want to buy a Corvette, I shouldn't have to pay for their healthcare. If they get injured or sick, they need to pay for their choice. There are people that I work with that will not purchase the company insurance because there children are on Child Health Plus (State Insurance). If they purchased the company insurance, the state forces them to put there children on the policy. Government insurance actually encourages businesses to pay their workers a low wage, because it is looked at as a benefit to the employee because they can stay on the government insurance and social welfare programs. I believe employees stay on state insurance, not necessarily because it's cheaper or better, but because they don't have to manage it...They are accustom to the social worker managing it for them.
It is sad to see how these government programs take the dignity away from these people. Being dependent on government welfare programs, and poorly educated by the public education system, and never leaning how to be self sufficient must be a helpless feeling. And liberals continue to perpetuate the cycle.
The USA tax burden is listed... but the numbers do NOT show the cost of 45 million Americans who have NO HEALTH INSURANCE AND NO HEALTH CARE. Hardly a comparison. Just think of all the money that is saved by the deaths of those Americans with out health care. Good thing they died before they cost us any Tax Dollars.
I'm not saying it is, but you can see several of those Countries have personal income tax rates in excess of 50%... and that's without 22% of their total budget going to defense costs. There are plenty of people that want something for nothing...The day after the healthcare bill passed, people were calling Insurance companies asking "where is my free ObamaCare'?" There are many reasons medicaid and medicare cost so much, from fraud to mismanagement. One reason is human stupidity and arrogance. I've been to the ER a few times in my life and just about EACH time I have overheard someone bring themselves or their child in complaining about common cold symptoms.. that costs money. Until you can be turned away if your symptoms don't warrant a certain type of care, universal health care will only make things worse,
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
More LIES from Box...It is illegal to deny medical care in America.
If all ya watch is Fox News, all you'll know is what Fox News preaches.
Lies??? Really Cicero?
Who is telling the LIE?
It is illegal to deny EMERGENCY medical care in America. But NO hospital or doctor is required to treat you if it's NOT AN EMERGENCY.
If you're bleeding and going to die... If you got run over by a bus... If you are dying from a heart attack... You WILL be treated.
However if you need heart surgery from a condition that will eventually kill you, but it won't kill you today... you're on your own. Come back when it's an EMERGENCY. If you have arthritis and need a new hip, ankle or knee in order to walk... stop walking... you're on your own. Come back when it's an EMERGENCY. If you have bronchitis, asthma, cancer, congestive heart failure, indigestion, an ear ache... and you are not going to die today... IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY... you're on your own.... Come back when it's an EMERGENCY.
The Right often tells Cicero's little lie... that NO ONE IS DENIED HEALTH CARE IN AMERICA... (I think it eases their guilt) but unless you are about to die... IT IS A LIE.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Cancer Survival Rates Improving Across Europe, But Still Lagging Behind United States
The age-adjusted 5-year survival rates for all cancers combined was 47.3% for men and 55.8% for women, which is significantly lower than the estimates of 66.3% for men and 62.9% for women from the US Surveillance, Epidemiology, and End Results (SEER) program ( P < .001).
Survival was significantly higher in the United States for all solid tumors, except testicular, stomach, and soft-tissue cancer, the authors report. The greatest differences were seen in the major cancer sites: colon and rectum (56.2% in Europe vs 65.5% in the United States), breast (79.0% vs 90.1%), and prostate cancer (77.5% vs 99.3%), and this "probably represents differences in the timeliness of diagnosis," they comment. That in turn stems from the more intensive screening for cancer carried out in the United States, where a reported 70% of women aged 50 to 70 years have undergone a mammogram in the past 2 years, one-third of people have had sigmoidoscopy or colonoscopy in the past 5 years, and more than 80% of men aged 65 years or more have had a prostate-specific antigen (PSA) test. In fact, it is this PSA testing that probably accounts for the very high survival from prostate cancer seen in the United States, the authors comment.
Further analysis of these figures shows that, in the case of men, more than half of the difference in survival between Europe and United States can be attributed to prostate cancer. When prostate cancer is excluded, the survival rates decreased to 38.1% in Europe and 46.9% in the United States. For women, the survival rate of 62.9% for all cancers in the United States is comparable to that seen in the wealthiest European countries (eg, 61.7% in Sweden, 59.7% in Europe), and the slightly higher survival in the United States was largely due to better survival for colorectal and breast cancer, the authors comment.
The differences in survival are due to a variety of reasons, Dr. Verdecchia and colleagues write. They include factors related to cancer services — for example, organization, training, and skills of healthcare professionals; application of evidence-based guidelines; and investment in diagnostic and treatment facilities — as well as clinical factors, such as tumor stage and biology.
it IS NOT universal health CARE it IS universal health INSURANCE
what is the first thing ANY insurance company does (government run or otherwise)?
YUP! CUT THEIR LOSES....does anyone here hope they will fall into the government wasteland of no oversight? do you know what you will become? a pawn for votes... and it will become another dumb a$$ conversation like the teachers/unions/public schools.....would that make anyone feel well taken care of??????
there will be requirements and YOU DONT have choice.....I SEE IT EVERY DAY......medicare/medicaid......everyone will be 'equalized' except for those elected calling the shots and hitting those podium pucks straight at our mouths to break our teeth so we have nothing to gnash with......
PAY ATTENTION
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Infant mortality in the USA is 47th. Not quite as good as Hungry, Taiwan, or Northern Mariana Islands, but better than Lithuania, Belarus and Croatia.
Infant mortality is the rate that infants survive their first year of life. We are 46th best at delivering health care that keeps our infants alive in their first year... worse than Cuba, worse than South Korea, worse than the Check Republic.
The USA is good at giving Rich people the best possible care... but is that really what we want to do? Why not make some Rich guy share a semi private room instead of a suite, and use that money to save the life of our infants. (NOTE TO MT... I said babies...not pre-babies.)
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Infant mortality in the USA is 47th. Not quite as good as Hungry, Taiwan, or Northern Mariana Islands, but better than Lithuania, Belarus and Croatia.
Infant mortality is the rate that infants survive their first year of life. We are 46th best at delivering health care that keeps our infants alive in their first year... worse than Cuba, worse than South Korea, worse than the Check Republic.
The USA is good at giving Rich people the best possible care... but is that really what we want to do? Why not make some Rich guy share a semi private room instead of a suite, and use that money to save the life of our infants. (NOTE TO MT... I said babies...not pre-babies.)
so if you happened to work hard to have enough $$ money to pay for a private nurse and room and the government told you "you have too much"....that would be OK with you?
I can see donating (quietly/privately) to St.Judes etc....what you are implying is that no one gives as much as your government
the public 'feeling' that they are equalized is a very bad thought control....what happens is it removes little by little the roots in a persons being of the strive to thrive whether it be your own food consumption/personal safety etc.....the main reason for infant mortality is the failure of this country to realize an unwanted child will survive....I truely believe this has more to do with personal choice than the 'lack' of healthcare... I digress.....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
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