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bumblethru
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I guess you missed the new story now Cicero, now supposedly he was reaching for a gun when they busted through. It may just be me but if I was the most wanted man in the world and I heard a helicopter land in my backyard I think I would have been ready.


They 'think' he was reaching for a gun!

And perhaps it was his years of his daily need for dialysis that rendered him incoherent. There are folks that I know that are on dialysis and believe me......they don't have too much energy or strength.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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When Reagan was shot, the press covered the story as best they could.  He was shot in surrounded by press and the shooting was on the air with in a few minutes. (Not thousands of miles away in Pakistan with NO press on scene).

There were numerous press releases that were half true, wrong and accurate, but no one lied.  Trying to get the news out in a hurry leads to mistakes or misunderstandings.  The news came from all the major networks as well as from White House staff...

~It was reported that Reagan had "open heart surgery" ... he didn't.
~It was reported that Jim Brady died at the scene... he didn't.
~It was reported that Reagan joked with the hospital crew saying "I hope you all are good Republicans"... He didn't.

In any breaking story there are inconsistencies in the reporting and in the reports... this story is no different.

(But it sure makes good opportunities for a Conspiracy Theory to take hold... Especially when you have desperate people like Cicero promoting the doubt.)  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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There are sadly more questions and less answers. Capturing him alive was written off I suppose because as Obama was committed to giving civilian trials to these war criminals and the political fallout was too great to give a trial (with ACLU lawyers no less!) in NYC to Osama. Of course all ringleaders and desperate mass murderers always say "I will never be taken alive" and in this case we did him the favor of refusing to take him alive, so in the end my prediction is that loss of control of the message, an incorrect strategy from the getout based on political concerns, and the hasty assassination without producing a body (of sorry-forgot the conflicting misinformation from the admin. for 3 days) will end up making this a net-loss for Obama politically. Confusion reigns supreme, the message is muddied and the American people (I really don't care about the Muzzie street) have too many unanswered questions to arrest doubt. And you can't blame Cicero of Rotterdam for worldwide and national doubt, sorry.

I don't even want to go to the fact that we made him a martyr...We will have that thrown in our face for decades. In time this will called the best executed, worst ordered black op in history.

The 40 minute Muzzie funeral will be written about when some wonk figures out many millions of dollars per hour the Vinson cost to operate! Oh Lord...I am sure Box, who is an expert on everything national security even more so that me (he was Marine enlisted) will try to refute it all, and must carry the water diligently. The Intel community is wringing hands over this for a fact.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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When Reagan was shot, the press covered the story as best they could.  He was shot in surrounded by press and the shooting was on the air with in a few minutes. (Not thousands of miles away in Pakistan with NO press on scene).

There were numerous press releases that were half true, wrong and accurate, but no one lied.  Trying to get the news out in a hurry leads to mistakes or misunderstandings.  The news came from all the major networks as well as from White House staff...

~It was reported that Reagan had "open heart surgery" ... he didn't.
~It was reported that Jim Brady died at the scene... he didn't.
~It was reported that Reagan joked with the hospital crew saying "I hope you all are good Republicans"... He didn't.

In any breaking story there are inconsistencies in the reporting and in the reports... this story is no different.

(But it sure makes good opportunities for a Conspiracy Theory to take hold... Especially when you have desperate people like Cicero promoting the doubt.)  

I can't believe that you are comparing an 'unplanned' assassination with a high tech 'planned' assassination. And a planned assassination that was planned for months by and with the best intelligence in the world!! You have got to be kidding me!!

And don't you find it ironic that this corrupt administration actually and deliberately tripped up the liberal media?? Even the liberal media is tripping all over themselves trying to get this story straight to try to continue to keep this corrupt government in good standing with the world. It is mind blowing to say the least.

I'm sure that we can all agree that the conflicting stories coming out of the white house is misguided and mind blowing.

This botched up assassination is no different from 'the worst pres. in american history...Carter's Iran!! Obama is just repeating Carter's history. Iran sunk Carter and this spectacle will sink obama.

Obama will go down in history as the most corrupt and most unqualified president of the United States!!!


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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Obama will go down in history as the most corrupt and most unqualified president of the United States!!!


Obama will go down in history as the president that rescued the United States of America from the worst economic meltdown in it's history... and as the man who ended two wars left to him by an inept predecessor ... and by the President that got Bin Laden... and as a success!



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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History will tell how good a President Obama is but he will go down in history as the President who broke his word the most times.
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obama/bush/clinton/bush/reagan/kennedy etc make decisions in a vaccum....these folks are groomed and the machines/think-tanks and mechanisms behind them
are what drives the giant machine....the problem happens when Atlas Shrugs....these folks are just another branch of the American 3 branch government...they are not
kings/queens/dictators etc......nor are they idols......

the economic meltdown was/is allowed to happen globally.....virtual value is where we are being led


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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