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Lindane was a real good pesticide 45 years ago but very toxic.    

Lindane is an antiquated and toxic pesticide that was once used extensively worldwide. Despite a recent global ban on its agricultural use, the pesticide, a potent neurotoxin, is still used in shampoos and lotions in the U.S. to control headlice and scabies. California banned these pharmaceutical uses in 2001, and similar legislation is moving forward in Michigan.

Today, metabolites of the DDT-era pesticide are routinely found in human bodies. Data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reveal a lindane component, beta-HCH, in the blood of 62% of people tested. Infants are exposed through the placenta and breastmilk, and lindane residue contaminates common foods such as rice and potatoes.

Human Health Harms

Lindane's body burden is a significant concern given its effects on human health — especially the nervous system. Human exposure to lindane is linked to a number of health impacts:

    Neurological Effects:  Humans exposed accidentally to high levels of lindane have experienced seizures, convulsions, vertigo, and abnormal EEG patterns (ATSDR).

    Cancer: Lindane is associated with elevated risks of non Hodgkin's lymphoma, liver, and breast cancer (ATSDR). California's Proposition 65 lists lindane as a chemical known to cause cancer.

    Endocrine Disruption: Lindane has been reported to interfere the hormone levels of human males exposed to the insecticide (ATSDR). In labratory studies, lindane mimicks estrogen in female rats and mice (Beyond Pesticides Factsheet).

    Reproductive Effects: Pregnant women who miscarried or had pre-term babies had higher levels of lindane as well as other organochlorine pesticides in their blood.  Lindane is also linked to reduced sperm counts, and decreased ovulation in animal studies (ATSDR).

    Immunological Effects: Lindane is thought to impact the human immune system. Workers exposed to lindane experienced increased levels of antibodies in their blood (ATSDR).

    Liver Toxicity:  Exposure to lindane is linked to increased levels of liver enzymes, increased liver weight and liver toxicity (ATSDR).

Environmental Contamination

Lindane is an organochlorine, a class of pesticides that are notorious for their toxicity, mobility, and persistence in the environment. The persistent chemical shows up more often than any other pesticide in the Arctic, contaminating traditional foods of indigenous communities in the region.
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Here's the link to my website I've been working on for years

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzetu8ii/pamspanicroomparentsagainstlindane/

On page two is the story the TU did about my son and lindane I'll post it here also in the hopes that some that read it will let parents know never to use it on their children, there are much safer treatments. thank you

Toxic consequences
Mom links son's condition to lindane, a lice treatment, and seeks to ban it

By William Brantley, Staff writer
First published: Tuesday, May 3, 2005

In the world of what would have been, her son Matthew would have started playing football this past year. His childhood dream was to play for the Dallas Cowboys.

Pamela LaBrake of Schenectady can picture in that world of what would have been how Matthew, who recently turned 15, would still be an outgoing, confident, happy kid with lots of friends and a smile big enough to make you do the same.

Instead of what would have been, LaBrake has managed to live with what is and what has been -- Matthew has been a quieter, more withdrawn boy with convulsive disorders and a variety of other health issues since soon after Dec. 18, 1997, when Matthew, then 7 years old, was sent home from school with head lice.

"I called (the doctor) and told them that he was 7," said LaBrake, recently, sitting in the den of her mother's house in Albany. "They prescribed a lindane shampoo. I picked it up within an hour."

Lindane is the common name for an organochloride pesticide known as gamma benzene hexachloride. Since the 1940s, it has been used in the United States as an agricultural insecticide and as a chemical treatment for lice and scabies.

In shampoo form, lindane is generally meant to be used only once, in a very methodical way, as a "second-line" treatment.

LaBrake found this out later. She said that because she hadn't received any explicit special instructions for using lindane, she figured she'd use it on Matthew just like any other shampoo. That's what she did.

The problems started a few weeks later. Matthew's eyes were swollen and red. They rolled around in his head. He was struck by twitches and spasms.

The first doctor who saw Matthew, in early January 1998, found a scraped cornea and diagnosed him with conjunctivitis.

At that point, LaBrake hadn't considered a correlation between Matthew's problems and the lindane shampoo. That changed a couple of months later, when she saw a television news report about the possible side effects of lindane.

"It was like they were describing Matthew," said LaBrake. "Oh my god, I knew right away."

Finding out

From that point on, LaBrake began to find out everything she could about lindane. She filled notebooks and folders with information about the pesticide.

She got in touch with doctors, pharmacies, legislators, other parents, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, the Environmental Protection Agency and organizations trying to get the substance banned.

She filed Freedom of Information requests, posted letters on Internet message boards and watched, guilty and helpless, as Matthew's condition immediately worsened, then refused to go away.

In September 1998, nine months after LaBrake used the lindane, a neurologist saw Matthew and concluded in his report that the boy's symptoms were "consistent with the syndrome of acquired epileptic aphasia," a convulsive condition. Later, he would receive other diagnoses: epileptic encephalopathy, cortical irritability, cerebral dysfunction.

Going through changes

After a while, it didn't matter to LaBrake what they called it. The worst part was watching her son and realizing he might not ever be the same again.

He withdrew from other kids. He quit playing sports. He began dreading school.

"He remembers how he was before," said LaBrake. "When he was younger, he used to say, 'Why did you use that shampoo on me?' He doesn't say that anymore."

Although LaBrake is not taking any legal action regarding her own son's case, she has spent the past eight years actively seeking a ban on lindane.

Today, a child is less likely to receive a lindane shampoo prescription to treat head lice.

A little more than two years ago, the Food and Drug Administration issued a public health advisory concerning the use of lindane shampoo and lotion. It required lindane shampoo and lotion bottles to come with a "black box" warning highlighting the risks associated with the products.

"While FDA believes that the benefits of lindane outweigh the risks when used as directed, given the potential for neurotoxicity, patients should only be treated with these medications if other treatments are not tolerable or other approved therapies have failed," the March 28, 2003, advisory stated.

New advisories

In addition to stressing the use of lindane as a "second-line therapy," in essence a fall-back option when nothing else has worked, the FDA advised caution in using lindane on anyone weighing less than 110 pounds. "These warnings," the advisory read, "are based on reports to the FDA's voluntary reporting system, which described approximately one half of reported adverse events occurred in pediatric patients."

The advisory also stressed that each new prescription of lindane shampoo or lotion must be accompanied by a "Medication Guide" spelling out the instructions for use and the information about the possible side effects of lindane.

For some, this warning isn't enough.

In 2000, California became the first and, so far, only state to ban the use or sale of lice and scabies treatments using lindane. That bill cited not only the health concerns associated with the direct use of lindane but also the toxic polluting power of lindane being flushed into the water system because it is still used in agriculture.

A similar bill has been passed by the state House of Representatives in Illinois. A hearing on the bill is scheduled to take place Wednesday in the Health and Human Services Committee of that state's Senate.

The state of law

In New York, Assemblyman Harvey Weisenberg of Long Beach has sponsored a bill to ban lindane. He said he first became aware of lindane because a constituent suffered brain damage after using it.

"The evidence has proven that lindane is not only detrimental to the person who's using this product but also to the environment," said Weisenberg. "It has a warning on it (to) not use it on animals. If we don't use it on animals, why the hell would we use it on a child? It just doesn't make any sense."

The bill has been put on the committee's agenda for next Tuesday, May 10.

A number of public interest groups, including the Citizens' Environmental Coalition, the New York Public Interest Research Group, Physicians for Social Responsibility and the Healthy Schools Network have voiced strong support for the ban on lindane.

The ban seems to make sense, said Erin Cinelli, a pharmacist and adjunct faculty member in the department of pharmacy practice at the Albany College of Pharmacy. "You don't really see it too much anymore, anyway. I've only dispensed it once," said Cinelli.

"There are the over-the-counter (head lice treatments), and I'm a big advocate of doing all the manual things, like combing."

Upon hearing last week that the lindane bill was scheduled to be on the agenda soon, LaBrake was excited.

"I didn't want to get Matthew's hopes up, so I explained to him that it has to go through all these different committees and who knows what will happen," said LaBrake. "I told him that it was a good first step, though. He doesn't talk much, so he didn't say anything. But when I told him, he did sort of have this little smile."

MORE INFORMATION

* For the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's FAQ on lindane shampoo and lotion, visit http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/infopage/lindane/lindaneQA.htm

* For the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's fact sheet on lindane, visit http://www.epa.gov/REDs/factsheets/lindane_fs.htm

* For the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention fact sheet on head lice, visit http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dpd/parasites/headlice/factsht_head_lice.htm

* For more information about head lice and head lice treatments, visit http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/headlice.html

* For more information about head lice and lindane, visit the Web site of the National Pediculosis Association at http://www.headlice.org

* The text of the bill sponsored by Assemblyman Harvey Weisenberg in the state Assembly Health Committee is available at http://www.assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=04162

* For the Web site of Morton Grove Pharmaceuticals, the manufacturer of lindane shampoo, visit http://www.mgp-online.com/

* For the Web site of the Ban Lindane Campaign, vist http://www.pan-uk.org/banlindane/
     

All Times Union materials copyright 1996-2005, Capital Newspapers Division of The Hearst Corporation, Albany, N.Y.
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The EPA banned it a few years ago but the FDA continues to say the benefits outweigh the risks  

The Stockholm Convention banned it but the US would not ratify it.

As for Lindane still being on the market well think of lobbyists

Glad you are aware of it's dangers and hope you spread the word. Thanks.


wow......show me the $$ trail of the EPA and the FDA.......WOW!!!! I follow BOTH ALL THE TIME......it's pathetic at best for us plebs.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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A new Rasmussen survey in Florida:
Herman Cain 30%,
Mitt Romney 24%,
Newt Gingrich 19%.
with no other candidate picking up double-digits.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Ron Paul tried to help Perry
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You almost have to feel bad for Perry...almost lol. Paul could rip off 20 departments and agencies of the top off his head that he would eliminate or cut back on.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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I thought this was a cool story about Ron Paul
http://deadlinelive.info/2011/.....seball-game/#respond

They also added this to Ripleys believe it or not archive
http://www.ripleys.com/weird/videos-and-oddities/cartoon-11062011/


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Thanks for sharing that beautiful video which is soooo appropriate on this Veterans Day. May God Bless all Veterans and their families.

And like reference in Ripleys.
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Henry thanks for that video. It is very difficult to try to re-educate the american people who have been blind sided to the truth of liberty, freedom and the constitution. Our two party corrupt system has lead the american people to a 'new false truth'. Sad!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Henry thanks for that video. It is very difficult to try to re-educate the american people who have been blind sided to the truth of liberty, freedom and the constitution. Our two party corrupt system has lead the american people to a 'new false truth'. Sad!


If this 'two party corrupt system' is so bad... why is Ron Paul a Republican? Why is Ron Paul a REPUBLICAN
Congressman?    Why is Ron Paul spending his campaign dollars to become the Corrupt Republican Nominee?  
Ron Paul is just one more Republican.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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If this 'two party corrupt system' is so bad... why is Ron Paul a Republican? Why is Ron Paul a REPUBLICAN
Congressman?    Why is Ron Paul spending his campaign dollars to become the Corrupt Republican Nominee?  
Ron Paul is just one more Republican.


Because the 2 party system has a strangle hold on the country. Those who do run third party can't get on debates let alone the ballot box, how many 3rd party candidates have you ever seen on the MSM, off the top of your head could you even remember who ran 3rd party during the last election in different parties.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Because the 2 party system has a strangle hold on the country. Those who do run third party can't get on debates let alone the ballot box, how many 3rd party candidates have you ever seen on the MSM, off the top of your head could you even remember who ran 3rd party during the last election in different parties.


You are correct. You have to work within the system that is dealt to you. I'll tell ya one thing.....if paul doesn't get the nomination, his supporters will NOT back any of the other dimwit rep candidates. And the reps know that. Why else would they be trying to give paul as little air time as possible? They clearly can NOT discredit him! They have nothing to discredit him for. And if any party tries the 'character assassination' route....that will be political suicide!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Recent 3rd party presidential candidates:

Ron Paul     Libertarian (1988), Various and Write-In (2008)     1988, 2008
Lenora Fulani     New Alliance     1988, 1992
James Warren     Socialist Workers     1988, 1992
Jack Herer     Grassroots     1988, 1992
John Hagelin     Natural Law     1992, 1996, 2000
Howard Phillips     U.S. Taxpayers, Constitution     1992, 1996, 2000
Andre Marrou     Libertarian     1992
Ross Perot     Independent, Reform     1992, 1996
Isabell Masters     Looking Back     1992, 1996
Ralph Nader     Green, Reform, Independent     1996, 2000, 2004, 2008
Harry Browne     Libertarian     1996, 2000
James Harris     Socialist Workers     1996, 2000, 2004, 2008
Monica Moorehead     Workers World     1996, 2000
Pat Buchanan     Reform     2000
Michael Badnarik     Libertarian     2004
Bob Barr     Libertarian     2008
Chuck Baldwin     Constitution     2008
Cynthia McKinney     Green     2008

Of these, IMO, Bob Baff, Pat Buchanan, Ralph Nader, Ross Perot, and Ron Paul had an actual campaign to be US President.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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