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May 14, 2011, 7:02am Report to Moderator
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Sometimes, some where the words of RP will come back to haunt him - as will the words of Obama, Bush, Clinton, Newt, Huckster, Trumpet and, so far, anyone else that the parties are putting out there.

Condolezza Rice if Mitch runs?

Trump? Newt? Give me a break.
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Examples of what some may seem "racist" but are actually the very freedoms and property rights that makes us America.

The Polish American Center
The Italian American Center
The Miss Black USA Pageant
Polish American Vets
United Negro Fund
The Jewish Community Center
The NAACP
and the list goes on and on.......

Some organizations are open to all and some exclusive to religion, color, etc.

But that is what freedom is. And property rights.
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OK... So it's all about "property rights"!  Yup... nothing to do with racism.

In much of America, there were two water fountains... side by side.  One for Whites (clean, modern, refrigerated) one for Blacks (Filthy, outdated, of poorer quality).  Why? Property Rights???  I own the bus station so I can install all the White/Black use water fountains that I want... It's my RIGHT AS THE PROPERTY OWNER.  "Property Rights"!

The same with a lunch counter, rest rooms, etc... As long as I exclude Blacks from my establishments, I will have the White business.  If I allow even one Black into my business... Whites will boycott and I'll go out of business.   Property Rights? or Extortion?

Today you can exclude customers who are noisy, rude, drunk, cause a disturbance "Property Rights", but you cannot exclude a customer because of his race.
  Why?
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it"
That's why.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Thomas Woodrow Wilson (December 28, 1856 – February 3, 1924) was the 28th President of the United States, from 1913 to 1921. A leader of the Progressive Movement, he served as President of Princeton University from 1902 to 1910, and then as the Governor of New Jersey from 1911 to 1913. With Progressive ("Bull Moose") Party candidate Theodore Roosevelt and Republican nominee William Howard Taft dividing the Republican Party vote, Wilson was elected President as a Democrat in 1912.


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In 1913, President Woodrow Wilson ordered the segregation of the federal Civil Service.[11] White and black people would sometimes be required to eat separately and use separate schools, public toilets, park benches, train and restaurant seating, etc. In some locales, in addition to segregated seating, it could be forbidden for stores or restaurants to serve different races under the same roof.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_segregation_in_the_United_States
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So you are saying that Ron Paul is as racist as Woodrow Wilson... Both would vote against the Civil Rights act of '64.

Much of the KKK was made up of Conservative Southern Democrat Racists...   The  '64 Civil Rights act is the reason that the South (that was previously strongly Democrat) has voted for Republicans, since then.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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I was waiting for box to bring up the KKK. Jeez. They are a bunch of fools who do NOT believe in equal rights and freedom for all. They advocate hate just like the black panthers.

Box I guess you just don't get it.

How do you feel about lets say the Miss Black USA pageant. Do you feel that is racist?

Well Ron Paul wouldn't, thats what property rights entail. Freedom.
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YUP!  Property rights... If I'm a bigot... I just say no Jews, no blacks, no Mexicans... no Fill In The Blank.  
I wont serve you because you are Black.  My fellow bigots will swarm to my establishment and boycott any business who doesn't also believe in Property Rights over Human Rights.  That's how it worked in the south for a hundred years.

When soon, probably in my lifetime, Whites are a minority in this country...then Property Rights will keep Whites out of movie theaters, restaurants, taxis... Then all of a sudden, they will understand the impact of the Civil Rights act of '64.

Property Rights my butt!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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I was waiting for box to bring up the KKK. Jeez. They are a bunch of fools who do NOT believe in equal rights and freedom for all. They advocate hate just like the black panthers.

Box I guess you just don't get it.

How do you feel about lets say the Miss Black USA pageant. Do you feel that is racist?

Well Ron Paul wouldn't, thats what property rights entail. Freedom.


Box is hopeless rpfp...of course those who think like Roxy wouldn't feel that Miss Black America pageant is racist...but I'll bet
they would be the first to go crazy if black women were excluded from the Miss America pageant.
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~You can exclude Non Veterans from a Veteran of the year competition.  But you couldn't exclude an Asian Veteran from the award.
~You can exclude a man from the Woman of the year award, but you can't exclude a Muslim woman.
~You can exclude a Jew from the Christian of the year award, but you couldn't exclude a Black Christian.

If you own a restaurant you can exclude people with out shoes, with out a tie, or with pets... but you can't exclude customers because of their race, religion or culture.  

You don't need Ron Paul's Property Rights rules to exclude customers for in appropriate attire...
But you do need Ron Paul's Property Rights rules to exclude customers based on race or religion.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Quoted from Box A Rox
~You can exclude Non Veterans from a Veteran of the year competition.  But you couldn't exclude an Asian Veteran from the award.
~You can exclude a man from the Woman of the year award, but you can't exclude a Muslim woman.
~You can exclude a Jew from the Christian of the year award, but you couldn't exclude a Black Christian.

If you own a restaurant you can exclude people with out shoes, with out a tie, or with pets... but you can't exclude customers because of their race, religion or culture.  

You don't need Ron Paul's Property Rights rules to exclude customers for in appropriate attire...
But you do need Ron Paul's Property Rights rules to exclude customers based on race or religion.


Who cares??????????

Anyone should be able to exclude anyone they want from their property for any reason they want, or no reason at all...it's
their property.

I suppose you're a big fan of 'hate crime' legislation too, right? How ridiculous that anyone could be more severely punished
for say, assault, because they don't like gays or certain ethnic groups....so what??? It's nothing more than just another motive
on the part of the offender. If you assault someone the punishment should be the same regardless of motive....and 'hate crimes'
only seem to apply to all but white offenders.

Call your communist hero Obama's Thought Police if you're so worried about it.
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This is from 2008 but I think its great : )
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"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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