I'm about as open to the Koch brothers propaganda as I am open to the George Soros Propaganda...
Our Rights & Liberties are fragile things, and a look at other countries and other times shows how easily they can be taken away... often in the name of Ron Paul's God!
I don't care if our leaders are of any particular religion or no religion at all... as long as they keep their religion out of my government. As soon as you start mixing religion with politics... as Paul did, "infallible" religious beliefs start chipping away at our freedoms. (The Religious Right fanatics and the abortion issue are a good example.)
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Our Rights & Liberties are fragile things, and a look at other countries and other times shows how easily they can be taken away... often in the name of Ron Paul's God!
No they are taking away from out of control governments, why do you think I and many others here are for restricting the government to what is bound by the constitution, because once the government overreaches itself once they will do it again and again and that is what endangers our freedoms. This is why I say you must protect all rights even if you feel it is not in our best interest to do so. Again with property rights, you feel it is ok to allow the government to regulate others property. I understand why you believe it is the right thing to do by what you said before but doing that chipped away at our freedoms like it or not. We can disagree on issues but when it comes to our rights we all need to stick together, once that line breaks we are in trouble. This is already happening with people giving up their freedoms for security like we seen after 9/11, that will only continue unless we stand tall and fight back.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Then why have you been saying our rights and liberties DERIVE from the Constitution?
Cicero, I'll put it the way you posted it back on post #249.
"The U.S. Constitution empowers the government to protects Americans liberties from those who would infringe on those liberties. It also creates a checks and balance to make sure the government doesn't use the power granted by the people to infringe on the people liberties."
If the US Constitution were suddenly ruled to be invalid... We would no longer have those rights. A law to order only one religion in to be legal for the whole country would be valid... and our first amendments rights would no longer exist... With or without Ron Paul's God given rights.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
So what exactly is the significance of 1500 votes of partisan paid campaign workers??? In 2010 Romney won it... and ???? Mitt Romney 24% (439)
Ron Paul 24% (438)
Newt Gingrich 18% (321)
Sarah Palin 18% (330)
Mike Huckabee 4% (80)
Tim Pawlenty 3% (54)
Mike Pence 3% (58)
Rick Santorum 2% (41)
Gary Johnson 1% (3)
How is a partisan RLC straw poll relevant to the elections or to us???
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Of all of the potential presidential candidates......RON PAUL is the only intelligent choice. I will be supporting and voting for RonPaul in the next election!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
If the US Constitution were suddenly ruled to be invalid... We would no longer have those rights. A law to order only one religion in to be legal for the whole country would be valid... and our first amendments rights would no longer exist... With or without Ron Paul's God given rights.
Incorrect...We still have those inalienable rights, the only difference would be is that Americans would yield power to the government by their collective ignorance, and no longer recognize the document that that sets the framework protecting our rights that have been endowed by the creator. Instead, our rights and liberties would most likely be dictated by a ruling class that will determine how to best live our lives.
Even without the Constitution, I still have my First Amendment rights of speech. The only difference is,,,they are not recognized and protected by the laws of the land. I can still say what ever the hell I want, the difference is now, without the constitution, those in power that disagree with my speech can jail me.
Even in your scenario, if a law was passed to order one religion doesn't mean I MUST follow that law and worship that religion. I just means I could be jailed or executed for now following mans laws. My individual liberties endowed by my creator doesn't compel me to worship the state law. I just have to accept the consequences for not following mans laws.
The Constitution PRESERVES individual rights - not grant them.
Box, your mind has been twisted from years of liberalism, you don't even understand the basic meaning of our Constitution.
Wow, I came on this thread to read about Ron Paul and his view points and I ended up reading,,, heck I can't even figure out what I'm reading... guess I'll vote for Palin
A group of US representatives plan to introduce legislation that will legalize marijuana and allow states to legislate its use, pro-marijuana groups said Wednesday.
The legislation would limit the federal government's role in marijuana enforcement to cross-border or inter-state smuggling, and allow people to legally grow, use or sell marijuana in states where it is legal.
The bill, which is expected to be introduced on Thursday by Republican Representative Ron Paul and Democratic Representative Barney Frank, would be the first ever legislation designed to end the federal ban on marijuana.
Sixteen of the 50 states as well as the District of Columbia have legalized the use of marijuana for medical purposes.
But planting, selling or commercially distributing marijuana remains illegal under federal law.
This can't be!!! Paul believes his rights and liberty come from his GOD AND he wants to end the federal ban on marijuana? This is going to cause the neo-cons heads to spin on their shoulders. Let's see him get jumped by the establishment at the next debate.
This is a brilliant move by Paul. This issue will separate him from Bachmann, who is the closest to courting the Tea Party constituents. She will eventually be asked to take a position on the proposed legislation, and she not be able to say she supports it, because she is attempting to play to the "family values" conservatives. Once she takes her position opposing lifting the ban, she will be considered a big government Republican establishment candidate - just like the rest.
Exactly Cicero, right now there is only 2 candidates that wish to legalize/decriminalize drugs and that is Paul and Johnson. The others like you stated will never back that since they're playing to the social conservatives/we know whats best for you crowd. This is only one issue of the bigger picture of freedom that all sides could come together and support. Many on the left and a growing number on the right now understand what a disaster the war on drugs is and how badly it tramples on our rights. Since the war on drugs is such a disaster there is no real argument the big government politicians can bring to the table to defend it.
I debated people on other sites on this subject and their arguments can be crushed in seconds.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
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