Box No need to argue about abortion but was wondering when YOU believe life begins?
RP. I'm sorry for you loss and I'm glad that your grandson is doing well.
To answer your question... IMO, Life begins long before conception... all the parts that EVENTUALLY make up a baby are 'alive'... they are 'life'... but not a human baby. The ovum, the sperm whether or not they join to form a fetus, are 'alive' in their parents bodies long before conception. They are not a baby... just the components that may some day make up a baby.
I don't believe that a womans egg or a mans sperm IS a baby... and once they are combined, they are a clump of cells that are nothing even remotely like a human baby. Eventually along the pregnancy, a fetus can survive outside the womb with out extreme measures. Once born, IMO, it's a human baby.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Back when SS first started, life expectancy for a America male was 59... It really sucks now that American males now live to the age of 76... they're really screwin Cicero's system by living so damn long.
Cicero is so afraid that he won't live long enough to collect every last penny that he paid into the system.
Please go tell your "life expectancy" statistic to the masonry worker, or the plumber, or the roofer, or the mechanic and let them know they have to work until they are 70 years old because the average life expectancy in America is 76.
One of the reasons life expectancy has gone up is BECAUSE AMERICA IS A MORE AUTOMATED LESS LABOR INTENSIVE CONSUMER SOCIETY. America doesn't manufacture anything, and what we do manufacture is mostly automated, so the number of Americans exposed to dangerous working conditions and physical stress adversely affecting a persons health has decreased.
So for your "average" argument, you are screwing your brothers in the trade unions that bust their a** every day. Let them know they have to work longer and harder because they didn't choose to be a cashier at Walmart. And if they do make it to collect their SS check, it can help subsidize their stay at the state run nursing until they die.
A real fair system. Thank You....Thank You....Thank You FDR for taking my money out of every paycheck so I can gamble it against my life expectancy.
One of the reasons life expectancy has gone up is BECAUSE AMERICA IS A MORE AUTOMATED LESS LABOR INTENSIVE CONSUMER SOCIETY. America doesn't manufacture anything, and what we do manufacture is mostly automated, so the number of Americans exposed to dangerous working conditions and physical stress adversely affecting a persons health has decreased.
Your knowledge of labor in America seems to be quite limited. And... Yes American workers are living longer now, in a large part due to OSHA and Unions who fought to make the job site a safer place.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Americans are living longer because they left 'the land' went to the cities got work with 'the man', were fed pink goo, soda, commercially made cigarettes, commercially made food, air, lighting, wagons....then complained because they lived longer with more ailments and cost,,,expecting 'the man' to be progressive and fix the results of their choices for them....
dontcha just love progress?
the next step...euthanasia, diet machines, mandated healthcare along with mandated blood work to make it worth the cost of everyone else..'the man' will tell you your value in his/her world....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
My brother and I picked my Dad up at the airport today. I was going to put one of my Ron Paul window signs in his window (he voted and will vote for Obama again but he has come to like alot of what Ron Paul stands for) Anyways I forgot to put it in his window so when we got to the airport I brought it in and was going to hold it up when he came into the terminal : ) So people are coming in from his flight and we are waiting and waiting and then we see the two pilots and the flight attendants and still no Dad, I'm thinking he missed his flight. All of a sudden the pilot leaves the group and comes over to me very excited and asks if Ron Paul is coming here lol. I said no I wish Finally we see my Dad the last one to come in, he sees my sign and says, is Ron Paul coming here?
BTW I wasn't holding the sign up, just in front of my legs
My brother and I picked my Dad up at the airport today. I was going to put one of my Ron Paul window signs in his window (he voted and will vote for Obama again but he has come to like alot of what Ron Paul stands for) Anyways I forgot to put it in his window so when we got to the airport I brought it in and was going to hold it up when he came into the terminal : ) So people are coming in from his flight and we are waiting and waiting and then we see the two pilots and the flight attendants and still no Dad, I'm thinking he missed his flight. All of a sudden the pilot leaves the group and comes over to me very excited and asks if Ron Paul is coming here lol. I said no I wish Finally we see my Dad the last one to come in, he sees my sign and says, is Ron Paul coming here?
BTW I wasn't holding the sign up, just in front of my legs
The pilot and your dad were worried... If RP was coming to the airport, they didn't want to get trampled by a crowd of screaming groupies!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
On the floor of the RNC, in late August, on primetime television, the American people will watch a political drama unfold in which the Republican old guard tries to horse-trade its way out of the pressure that has built up around it for years. The Mr. Smiths of the Republican Party are angry and organized and have worked their way into the highest levels of the Republican Party. They are the delegates of the highest legislative body of the Republican Party – the RNC. They have voice and vote to change the direction, structure, and leadership of the GOP, and in 2012 the Mr. Smiths of the GOP seem to like Ron Paul a whole lot better than they like Mitt Romney.
I like when he says.......'fairness in the process'! The lame stream media doesn't have a clue. thanks for sharing the video!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
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Finally we see my Dad the last one to come in, he sees my sign and says, is Ron Paul coming here? 
