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As if that money will end up being spent on RP's Campaign!!!
      >     

Really Cicero... Do you actually think RP is running his campaign to be elected???
LMAO!
(Run for President for 'fun & profit')

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'R P Campaign funds become ‘a family affair’
Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul used campaign funds to pay salaries and fees to more members of his own family than any other lawmaker in the House, according to a recently released report, handing
over more than $300,000 during the 2008 and 2010 election cycles.





Funny, you have an issue with this, but you have no problem with all the same when it happens in Rotterdam and throughout Schenectady County, right?  Oh, that's right, that's the party you SUPPORT, so it's OK.


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Funny, you have an issue with this, but you have no problem with all the same when it happens in Rotterdam
and throughout Schenectady County, right?  Oh, that's right, that's the party you SUPPORT, so it's OK.


Rampage... Do you just make this stuff up as you go along???
Why would you even post such a thing???

Do I support any candidate in Rotterdam or Schdy county?  Either Dem or Rep???

Maybe you have me confused with some one else.


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From policymic

With the suspension of Rick Santorum’s presidential campaign, mainline Republicans immediately began reporting that the race was over, and that Mitt Romney was the GOP nominee for the presidency. But Romney supporters may have started celebrating prematurely. If recent events are any indication, Ron Paul is a dangerous competitor.

First, Rick Santorum’s supporters have begun uniting with Paulistas on an anti-Romney slate at state conventions. Bolstered by this arrangement, Ron Paul is gathering large numbers of delegates even in states where he performed poorly in the initial voting. In Colorado, a state where Paul came in last place, a Paul/Santorum “Conservative Unity Slate” has captured the plurality of delegates, with Ron Paul leading the coalition. In addition, the Paul/Santorum alliance removed Romney supporter Ryan Call, Colorado State Party Chairman, from his seat as Delegation Chairman, as well as placed two of its own members on the state’s Rules Committee.

Similarly, in Minnesota, three district conventions were held, with Ron Paul winning every delegate. Much is also suspected in Missouri. And in states where Paul performed well, the effects are predicted to be even more dramatic.

Second, Ron Paul has the best chance to win over Evangelicals and even more Santorum supporters, as seen in events past and present. Remember that it was Ron Paul who won the Evangelical Values Voters Summit straw poll back in October of 2011. And recently, Paul declared his willingness to move the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, symbolizing the city’s status as de facto capitol of the Jewish state. Moves like these help Ron Paul grab the support of Evangelicals reluctant to vote for Romney, a “Massachusetts moderate” and Mormon.

Finally, a recent poll by Rasmussen shows Ron Paul as the only candidate capable of beating Barack Obama. Republicans focused on removing Obama from office would be wise to support the candidate who stands out as truly different from the president. Unlike Romney, Ron Paul is not a “moderate” but rather a refreshingly sincere figure whose third-party style rhetoric is something so many Americans have been waiting for.

Onwards to Tampa!


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LMAO you guys are gonna love this one

http://torgersonforcongress.blogspot.com/

Monday, April 16, 2012
Republican 5th Congressional District Convention April 2012
On Saturday, April 14, 2012, I attended the Republican 5th Congressional District Endorsing Convention.

There was a stage at the front of the room. Approximately 6 people were seated on the stage. Every person seated was a Ron Paul Libertarian. The Convention was overrun by Ron Paul Libertarians. More than 2/3 of the delegates were Ron Paul Libertarians. When I mentioned that we were at a Republican Convention, they laughed out loud.

They began the Convention. There was no opening prayer. Not even a mention of it.

There was also no Pledge of Allegiance to the US flag.

Then, a man up front stood up and requested that we recite the Pledge of Allegiance. But alas, upon looking around, there was not a flag to be seen.

Then, a clown came forward, dressed in garb, with a very large hat, that somewhat resembled a flag. In Wikipedia, wearing a flag is a form of flag desecration. Wikipedia states the following:

It is increasingly common to see clothing with the image of the flags forming a substantial part of the piece. Views vary as to whether some of this is an act of disrespect.

Such actions may be undertaken for a variety of reasons:

- As a protest against a country's foreign policy.
- To distance oneself from the foreign or domestic policies of one's home country.
- As a protest at the very laws prohibiting the actions in question.
- As a protest against nationalism.
- As a protest against the government in power in the country, or against the country's form of government.
- A symbolic insult to the people of that country.

So it appears that this person was wearing the US flag in order to desecrate our flag.

The clown in the flag suit then went up front and stood on the stage. We were then led in the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. Stunning. To me this seemed a further desecration of the US flag and the Pledge of Allegiance. I refused to participate.

Later, a vote was taken as to whether any endorsement of any Congressional candidate was going to take place. A decision was made to do so.

There were going to be 3 candidates allowed to speak. I was told a couple of days before the Convention by Adam Weigold, Chair, that I would be allowed an unlimited amount of time to speak. The first candidate allowed to speak, Chris Fields, a Libertarian, was allowed an unlimited amount of time. I was then asked by Chris Sinn, a Libertarian, how long my speech would take. I had prepared a 30 minute speech. I told Chris the length of time I expected my speech to take. They knew that I was going to criticize the Libertarian platform, and expose that Chris Fields is actually a Libertarian, and expose his positions, etc. Chris Fields has been trying to pass himself off as a moderate Republican, and has avoided taking any positions in public or on his website. Juliette Jordahl, a Libertarian, then quickly brought a motion to limit my speech to 10 minutes. It passed. I am currently reading a book, Dietrich Bonhoeffer. One of the first things the Nazis did was to outlaw speech criticizing the Nazis. I have been contacted by Libertarian Adam Weigold telling me not to expose Chris Fields, etc. I told Adam that he was infringing upon my liberty - freedom of political speech. One would think that the Libertarians would encourage critical thinking, freedom of speech, and expression of political speech.

Thus, instantaneously, I had to cut out 2/3 of my speech. During my presentation, as mentioned above, they laughed out loud when I mentioned that we were at a Republican Convention. The mention that the Constitution did not protect homosexual behavior brought jeers. I also mentioned that Chris Fields has said that Saddam Hussein got a bad deal, that he applauds Keith Ellison's representation of Muslims, that he thinks our cherished US Constitution is not perfect, that he supports gay rights legislation, and that he would not protect Life with legislation. When I then mentioned that Chris Fields had been advocating, to our Republican college youth, the legalization of pot smoking, this brought loud, lengthy cheering and clapping, and then the announcement that my time was up. I mentioned that President and General George Washington did not advocate pot smoking and that if he did, we probably would not have won the American Revolutionary War.

This is what is going on in your Republican Party folks.

Please note that Libertarians, who actually have PROGRESSIVE positions:

- want to eliminate the TSA

- want to eliminate the Patriot Act

- are anti-war

- are pro gay rights

- don't want to protect Life with legislation

- have a pro Muslim agenda

- are generally anti-Christian

- don't want to support Israel

- don't want to prevent a nuclear Iran

- want to legalize illegal drugs

- want to legalize prostitution

Adam Weigold, a staunch Ron Paul Libertarian supporter, re-ran for Chair of the 5th Congressional District. He ran un-opposed. I do not understand why no Republican ran against him.

Mark Johnson, a Libertarian, SD 60 Chair, ran for Deputy Chair, and was elected. Red Bartholomew, a long time Republican ran against him. The vote was 100 to 40, in favor of Libertarian/Progressive Mark Johnson. Please note that Mark Johnson participated in Occupy Wall Street, at the Hennepin County Government Center.

Jacquelyn America proudly mentioned more than once that she has been working with the Somali community.

I recently read an article in Mother Jones. It reported that the Libertarians did a study and concluded that given its form of government, that the State of New Hampshire would be the easiest State in the Union to take over. Then, 14,000 Libertarians moved to New Hampshire. It appears that a similar strategy is being employed in Minneapolis, and the State of Minnesota.

This is your Republican Party folks. Do nothing at your peril.


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Like it or not... Ron Paul is running as a R E P U B L I C A N!  
Not as an Independent or as a Libertarian...
RP is a REPUBLICAN Congressman, running for the nomination of the REPUBLICAN PARTY.

Run from it all you want... Paul had an opportunity to run as a Libertarian and refused... and instead
ran for office in the REPUBLICAN PARTY!


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Like it or not... Ron Paul is running as a R E P U B L I C A N!  
Not as an Independent or as a Libertarian...
RP is a REPUBLICAN Congressman, running for the nomination of the REPUBLICAN PARTY.

Run from it all you want... Paul had an opportunity to run as a Libertarian and refused... and instead
ran for office in the REPUBLICAN PARTY!


Oh we know that, I just love watching the old guard squirm knowing Paul supporters can make or break them. We can bring life back to the GOP but it is up to them if they want it or not, if they don't they do it at their own demise because we will be more than happy to support 3rd party options.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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As if that money will end up being spent on RP's Campaign!!!
      >     

Really Cicero... Do you actually think RP is running his campaign to be elected???
LMAO!
(Run for President for 'fun & profit')

Washington Times
http://www.washingtontimes.com.....ily-affair/?page=all




Yeah...He's a medical doctor, so is his son...He's doing it for the money.  You will eat ALL the sh*t the media feeds ya.



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Like it or not... Ron Paul is running as a R E P U B L I C A N!  
Not as an Independent or as a Libertarian...
RP is a REPUBLICAN Congressman, running for the nomination of the REPUBLICAN PARTY.

Run from it all you want... Paul had an opportunity to run as a Libertarian and refused... and instead
ran for office in the REPUBLICAN PARTY!


Can't help you box...Some people like yourself have a hard time seeing the forest through the trees.


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Yeah...He's a medical doctor, so is his son...He's doing it for the money.  You will eat ALL the sh*t the media feeds ya.


So you are saying that the reports that "Ron Paul  used campaign funds to pay salaries and fees to more members of his own family than any other lawmaker in the House" are not true??? Or are you just saying that a few
hundred thousand dollars doesn't matter to a doctor?
Greed and corruption is rampant in the US congress... Paul is no exception.



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So you are saying that the reports that "Ron Paul  used campaign funds to pay salaries and fees to more members of his own family than any other lawmaker in the House" are not true??? Or are you just saying that a few
hundred thousand dollars doesn't matter to a doctor?
Greed and corruption is rampant in the US congress... Paul is no exception.



> > >

Yeah...Ron Paul is flying around the country at 76 years old to pay a few family members $30k and $40K salaries.  One Michelle Obama tax paid vacations dwarfs your claim to Paul enriching his family members off of campaign contributions.

Obama has spent more money in Greens Fees than Paul paid his campaign workers. > >


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Yeah...Ron Paul is flying around the country at 76 years old to pay a few family members $30k and $40K salaries.  One Michelle Obama tax paid vacations dwarfs your claim to Paul enriching his family members off of campaign contributions.



So your answer is YES.  You agree that Paul is enriching his family members with campaign contributions.
The Washington Times agrees.  It happens in government, but in Paul's campaign, it happens the most of any
member of Congress.


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Oh we know that, I just love watching the old guard squirm knowing Paul supporters can make or break them. We can bring life back to the GOP but it is up to them if they want it or not, if they don't they do it at their own demise because we will be more than happy to support 3rd party options.


The gop is squirming for sure!! Paul is going to continue right to the end as long as he has supporters!! And the gop really has no idea WHO will get the majority of the delegates. The lame stream media can 'advertise' who they want...but it apparently hasn't worked yet!!! It is just tooooo funny to sit back and watch this all unfold!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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The gop is squirming for sure!! Paul is going to continue right to the end as long as he has supporters!! And the gop really has no idea WHO will get the majority of the delegates. The lame stream media can 'advertise' who they want...but it apparently hasn't worked yet!!! It is just tooooo funny to sit back and watch this all unfold!!!


Some posts on this board are just amazing!
I understand sticking by your man... if you firmly believe that he is the best candidate for the country, then
by all means, stick by him, and do all you can to get him elected.
But...
There is also reality.  

I fear some on this board, are in for a HUGE (yes HUGE Caroline)  disappointment!


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At an Upstate New York Tea Party Event



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Ron Paul will be in Ithaca in a couple of days, so wish I could go but not up to it .

The bus going to there from Albany is filled up : )

Theres going to be a sign wave this weekend at colonie center if anyones interested I'll post info on it.
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