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Box A Rox
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"Don't blame me I voted for Ron Paul",
Exactly... Don't blame me... I threw my vote out the window so I wouldn't be responsible for any of it.

Personally, I see a huge difference between Obama and Romney, and I plan to vote for the better man.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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So the states decide what each state wants and can afford... so pollution from a poorer state (which has no
EPA) runs into a richer state that cares about the environment... and is forced to clean up the mess.
Great idea! Duhhhhhhhhh  
The USA needs an effective Federal EPA.

With each state's education (or lack of it) being left up to each state with no federal standards, we could
hire a Doctor from some backwards bible beating state (Mississippi, Alabama, etc) and when this doctor
finds that you need immediate surgery to save your life... The Dr is unqualified to do the surgery or even
diagnose your disease... But he does know how to pray for you.  
Great Idea President Paul  

President Paul doesn't offer anything (except his anti war stance) to a Democrat, or to most Independents,
or to most Republicans...
His cult knows he hasn't a snowball's chance in hell of winning the US Presidency... so Paul groupies are free
to spend the next 4 years complaining about President Obama, or President Romney in the safe knowledge that
they didn't vote for them so they are absolved from any responsibility in the future of the country.




I'm not absolved of ANYTHING.....I'm sitting right next to you.....but with different eyes

does being absolved from responsibility also include abortion cheerleading?

aborting liberty is also a choice made by many a voter dems and reps alike


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The Federal EPA protects us lol    

Oh yeah and the FDA is doing it's job NOT.

They both are bought by lobbyists.

As for doctors totally agree with Henry. I've been to a few where I NEVER went back. One on my first visit tried putting me on high blood pressure meds, I didn't have high blood pressure just white coat syndrome.  

One neurologist I went to tried twice to get me into clinical trials, I refused, told him I'm happy with my current medication. Well one of the meds from one clinical trial he wanted me in ended up making people very ill, some died.

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medicine is not an exact science.....

1. do something
2. do nothing
3. accept it
4. leave it

the choices are endless.....somehow docs got a 'god' status......how?.......fear of the mysteries of our bodies that most folks avoid "I cant stand blood, vomit, urine etc etc"

our bodies are not manufactured in detroit

healthcare is a mixture of (mostly life style choices and genes).....just one big pot of stew with each person flavored differently......no direction book given at birth...


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Bumblle thanks for posting : )  He is sooooo  honest, people are not used to that.



Even the msm knows he is right on and honest and obviously treat him with great respect.
They DON'T know how to process honesty, freedom, liberty since they have never seen or heard it before!!

Incredible man and we are lucky to be alive to hear and see him make history! And he will go down in history as a great american.........hopefully president!!!!!

I have never seen ANYONE shake up an entire country and the msm (THE SYSTEM) like Paul has! God Bless his supporters!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Groupies


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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I think anyone who considers RP supporters groupies or cultish are really just unhappy with THEIR choice for president who does not excite them.

RP excites us because of his message, his consistency, his honesty, REAL change and because he is the best candidate to really get our economy turned around. He won't take any crap.

He dosent just say anything to get votes, his message stays the same. He dosen't flip flop, he dosen't cater to lobbyists and wall st.

He is a great man with a great message, he is the only candidate who WILL follow the Constitution.

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I have never seen ANYONE shake up an entire country and the msm (THE SYSTEM) like Paul has! God Bless his supporters!!!


Ditto  
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Box
I think anyone who considers RP supporters groupies or cultish are really just unhappy with THEIR choice for president who does not excite them.



That's what it is now since their Messiah turned out to be a bust. 4 years ago Obama supporters were the serious groupies and what some would call cultish, many didn't care about the policies he wanted they just followed him. Watch some of the videos I posted in the Obama thread, by the way they were acting you would have thought the 2nd coming of Jesus was upon us



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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by the way they were acting you would have thought the 2nd coming of Jesus was upon us


He's not?


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Obama as the Messiah???  I'm sure that there are/were people who looked at Obama that way... groupies follow
most famous people, but I know of none.

I disagree with Ron Paul on many issues... so he was never even in contention for my vote. But beyond that...

Does Ron Paul have ANY issues that you don't agree with???
I'm amazed that otherwise intelligent people will IGNORE Ron Paul's Creationist views as if they didn't exist...
(Kind of CULT LIKE.)

Could you vote for a man who professed that, against all scientific evidence, the earth is flat???  I couldn't.




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I'm amazed that otherwise intelligent people will IGNORE Ron Paul's Creationist views as if they didn't exist...
(Kind of CULT LIKE.)

Could you vote for a man who professed that, against all scientific evidence, the earth is flat???  I couldn't.


Paul doesn't have "creationist views".  Ron Paul welcomes ALL theories to be explored, studied and researched.  Ron Paul is a doctor, and probably has views closer to modern science than creationism, the difference is - he doesn't feel as if a king in Washington DC can forcefully impose their dogma onto every community in the United States.  Like I've said before, if a school in North Dakota wanted to offer an elective class in creationism, Ron Paul doesn't believe Washington DC should really have a say in it.  He wants to eliminate the Department of Education and the centrally planned curriculum.  It is the government/science cult that feels they MUST destroy all other ideas that do not fit the accepted Washington DC/science doctrine.  The government wants to maintain a homogeny of the masses to more easily control.  They do not want factionalism.


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So Ron Paul washes his hands of Education in the USA!  It's OK with Ron Paul if American kids grow even
farther behind the rest of the world in science.  What a guy!!!

Creationism... IS RELIGION!  NOT SCIENCE... so it's OK with Ron Paul if Religion is taught as if it actually
were science.  Again... what a guy!
It's not like the education of American kids is important or anything like that... lets leave it to the religious
clerics to set the education standards in this country... Paul thinks that is OK.

There is one book, written by people with no grasp of science, who believed that the world is flat... that
supports Creationism...
There is the vast wealth of total knowledge of almost all scientists in the world, who universally accepts
Evolution as FACT... yet Ron Paul disagrees with hundreds of thousands of the best scientists in the world...
In his own words, Ron Paul rejects evolution.  (He rejects science)





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Box, why don't you show they unedited version?  He rejects the theory of evolution, not science.  Where do you come up with this stuff - the daily Kos?  



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Box, why don't you show they unedited version?  He rejects the theory of evolution, not science.  


After watching the longer version of the tape... I will  post my new updated view:

Creationism... IS RELIGION!  NOT SCIENCE... so it's OK with Ron Paul if Religion is taught as if it actually
were science.  Again... what a guy!
It's not like the education of American kids is important or anything like that... lets leave it to the religious
clerics to set the education standards in this country... Paul thinks that is OK.

There is one book, written by people with no grasp of science, who believed that the world is flat... that
supports Creationism...
There is the vast wealth of total knowledge of almost all scientists in the world, who universally accepts
Evolution as FACT... yet Ron Paul disagrees with hundreds of thousands of the best scientists in the world...
In his own words, Ron Paul rejects evolution.  (He rejects science)

~"I think there is a theory... the theory of Evolution, and I don't accept it"
Ron Paul rejects the proven SCIENCE of hundreds of thousands of the worlds best scientists...
Instead he believes in the bible version of science.
~"I don't think we are at the point where anybody has absolute proof of either side".
This one statement should be enough for any intelligent person to disqualify Paul from the office of President.


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