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Oh boy...We're back to tar and feathering with racism and conspiracy theory-mongering.  The classic ruling establishments debate ender when they can't win the philosophical debate.

What's next, Ron Paul wants to bring our troops home and end the bombings in the Middle East because he doesn't want to protect Arabic people.  Oh, no, wait...That's right, he wants to pull out of the Middle East because he's an anti-semite and doesn't want to protect Isreal.  It's so confusing sometimes to pin down who Ron Paul hates.

As Barack Obama's preacher Jeramiah Wright said, we live in the "U.S. of KKK-A"  


Another beautiful sermon from Barack Obama's preacher.  
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JEREMIAH WRIGHT: "The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law, and then wants us to sing God Bless America? No, no, no! Not God bless America. God damn America! It's in the Bible, for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating its citizens as less than human!"


Hmmm..."The government gives them the drugs".  Is that "conspiricy?  

Talk about a racist conspiracy theorist, that would be Barack Obama's spiritual leader.





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The Real Delegate Score: Romney 93, Paul 82
Submitted by valleyforge on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 08:26
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    * Delegates

74 votes

Every media outlet seems to have a different delegate count. But almost invariably we're told Ron Paul is in last place and far behind the leader Mitt Romney.

But none of these delegate counters properly estimate how the caucuses will allocate their delegates. According to the Paul campaign, Ron is well positioned to win 50% of the delegates in Iowa, 75% in Minnesota, 50% in Colorado, and 75% in Maine. So what is likely to be the true delegate count once the caucus states select their national delegates?

Add together the bound delegates from New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida, and Nevada, and extrapolate the caucus states' delegates using the Paul campaign's estimates and you get:

Total Delegates (IA, NH, SC, FL, NV, MN, CO, ME)
Romney: 93 (6, 7, 2, 50, 14, 2, 7, 5)
Paul: 82 (13, 3, 0, 0, 5, 28, 17, 16)
Gingrich: 29 (0, 0, 23, 0, 6, 0, 0, 0)
Santorum: 25 (6, 0, 0, 0, 3, 7, 9, 0)
Unpledged: 14 (3, 2, 0, 0, 0, 3, 3, 3)

*Unpledged includes Huntsman's delegates in NH as well as unbound party leader delegates in certain states.

The caucus/convention process for selecting delegates has plenty of quirks along the way - the eventual delegates could be more evenly dispersed or could skew even more heavily to Paul as the majority candidate. But this is a far more accurate portrayal of the true state of play than allocating delegates proportionately to the straw poll or entirely to the straw poll leader.

And it shows that, for now, this is a two-man race in delegates between Paul and Romney.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Ron Paul has a record of voting against US Veterans...
As a result, Paul has earned himself a dismal 'F' rating from the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America.

~Ron Paul Voted AGAINST A New GI Bill (1st vote)
~Ron Paul Voted AGAINST A New GI Bill (2ndt vote)
~Ron Paul Voted AGAINST Homes for Heros
~Ron Paul Voted AGAINST Veterans Health Care 2009
~Ron Paul Voted ABSENT on Veterans Health Care 2007
~Ron Paul Voted ABSENT on Veterans Health Care 2008
~Ron Paul Voted ABSENT on Expanding Veterans Benefits
~Ron Paul Voted ABSENT on Veterans Bonuses
~Ron Paul Voted ABSENT on 2nd Rate GI Bill


No other Congressman from Texas earned below a C Veterans rating.
NO  Congressman from Texas earned a D Veterans rating.
But
Only Ron Paul EARNED A VETERANS RATING OF "F"  in Texas.

IN FACT RON PAUL STANDS OUT, OF THE ENTIRE US CONGRESS,
AS THE ONLY US CONGRESSMAN TO BE RATED BY VETERANS WITH AN "F" RATING!


Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America 2008 Report:
http://www.veteranreportcard.org/reportcard.pdf


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Only Ron Paul EARNED A VETERANS RATING OF "F"  in Texas.

IN FACT RON PAUL STANDS OUT, OF THE ENTIRE US CONGRESS,
AS THE ONLY US CONGRESSMAN TO BE RATED BY VETERANS WITH AN "F" RATING!


Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America 2008 Report:
http://www.veteranreportcard.org/reportcard.pdf


Fortunately, the U.S. soldier values their lives and the Constitution and doesn't listen to what some Congressional ratings tells them.  Oh yeah...And Ron Paul SERVED.  Every candidate up there, including Obama earns an F in that department.  Pulling the lever on a vote is easier than pulling a trigger on an M16.  They think sending a vet that lost his legs to school a GI Bill, or treating PTSS with Veterans Health Care makes up for the life destroyed in the undeclared wars.



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Henry... Discussing military suicide is a valid issue.  It's a problem that has been buried and forgotten since the
wars began.
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Making the suicide deaths of our troops a political issue is beneath you.  I'm disappointed.


It is a political issue, because Vietnam, Afganhistan, Iraq are all UNDECLARED wars and ALL of the presidents who have been in office during these wars are responsible.  

And Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate with the honesty and balls to bring it up at the debates and on the campaign trail. Like he says it didn't just start with Bush or Obama its been going on for many years.

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even if a president didn't send troops....just by sending FREE hard earned American money to purchase international 'friends' kills Americans....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The GOP candidates are doing a fantastic job of electing Obama.  The longer this Republican circular firing squad
continues, the less effort it will take for Obama to be reelected.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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if Ron Paul isn't the nominee its a given Obama will have 4 more years.  Because most RP supporters will NOT vote for anyone else as they are all the same.
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if Ron Paul isn't the nominee its a given Obama will have 4 more years.  Because most RP supporters will NOT vote for anyone else as they are all the same.


I hope so.


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Do any Ron Paul groupies have a problem with Ron Paul's position on Creationism???  I find it difficult to vote
for any one, of any party, who considers science to be... (in Paul's words) unproven.
His explanation that Evolution is just one "theory" is laughable.  It's similar to discussing "the Flat Earth Theory"!


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Do any Ron Paul groupies have a problem with Ron Paul's position on Creationism???  I find it difficult to vote for any one, of any party, who considers science to be... (in Paul's words) unproven.
His explanation that Evolution is just one "theory" is laughable.  It's similar to discussing "the Flat Earth Theory"!


No,, not at all...Ron Paul wants to eliminate the Department of Education.  He isn't interested of mandating and accrediting one scientific theory over another for every state in the Union.  I understand that the collectivist believe it is up to the President to use the power of President to make sure all 300 million Americans conform to one accepted scientific dogma.  

So if schools offer a class on Creationism in North Dakota, which is up to that community, that’s fine, it doesn't affect me in New York.  If a New York school chooses not to offer Creationism, that's ok too.  

Hey Box, imagine if in the 1970's a school in North Dakota was teaching Global Warming?  That would have been like teaching the Flat Earth Theory, since the Global Cooling was the accepted scientific fact of that time.

Totalitarian collectivist state goal is to make sure there is a homogenious and predictable citizen.  


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So if schools offer a class on Creationism in North Dakota, which is up to that community, that’s fine, it doesn't affect me in New York.  If a New York school chooses not to offer Creationism, that's ok too.  
  


I am more than a NEW YORKER, I am an AMERICAN.  It matters to me if some kid in North Dakota is being taught
religion in place of actual science.  As an American I care that every child gets as good an education as possible.

Can you picture the New Yorker child and Cicero's North Dakota child when they both go to a school in Mississippi, where
they teach VooDOO?
Great system Cic!  

1=1=2 in NY.
1=1=47 in North Dakota... hey why not?  Cic doesn't care!  


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Can you picture the New Yorker child and Cicero's North Dakota child when they both go to a school in Mississippi, where they teach VooDOO?
Great system Cic!  

1=1=2 in NY.
1=1=47 in North Dakota... hey why not?  Cic doesn't care!  


Can you picture having control over your childs education without the authoritarians like box sitting in Washington DC dictating what 300 million people must learn and accept?  Imagine having a government where the government trusted their own people to educate the way the see fit?  Box feels it is the job of the federal government to protect you from your own community, and protect kids from their parents.  Box feels the U.S. Congress trumps all other legsilative bodies(including family) and will use its force and coercive powers to break the teaching of anything THEY DEEM unacceptable.  

The Box a Rox motto:

All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.


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