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Box A Rox
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I can only see one role for Ron Paul in the upcoming election.  A desperate Mitt Romney, who sees his hopes of defeating
Obama in the fall nearly impossible... would persuade Ron Paul to run as his VP.

Since the Conservatives are already condemning Romney as "too Liberal", a Ron Paul  VP, might bring in some of the die hard
TeaBaggers, as well as the majority of Ron Paul Groupies to his side.  
I doubt that Paul would be used in that way, but who knows... the last time around the GOP went for bimbo Palin instead of
a qualified VP candidate, in an attempt to bring in the Women's vote... anything is possible.


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The Florida Polls & Ron Paul:
How did Ron Paul stack up in the actual primary compared to the latest polls there before the vote?
Florida Polls:
A Quinnipiac poll in Florida shows
Ron Paul 11%.

A SurveyUSA poll
Paul at 12%

A We Ask America poll
Paul at 11%.

A Public Policy Polling
Paul at 11%.

A InsiderAdvantage poll
Paul at 12%.

As was predicted in earlier posts, Paul under preformed the polling, coming in below the polling at
Paul at 7%.


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As was predicted in earlier posts, Paul under preformed the polling, coming in below the polling at
Paul at 7%.


Paul had ZERO campaign offices in Florida.  Paul received the same amount of Florida delegates as Gingrich, and Santorum - ZERO.


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Paul Roasts Piers Morgan and Obama on auto bailout theft.



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"Osama bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive."
--(Vice President Joe Biden)

With Paul as president it would be the other way around.


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"Osama bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive."
--(Vice President Joe Biden)

With Paul as president it would be the other way around.


How do you figure that, Paul wanted to direct all our attention to those that attacked us, you know AlQaeda, instead some wished to waste money and lives in places like Iraq, Yemen, Libya, and so on.



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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How do you figure that, Paul wanted to direct all our attention to those that attacked us, you know AlQaeda, instead some wished to waste money and lives in places like Iraq, Yemen, Libya, and so on.


Paul's reluctance to kill AlQaeda operatives in Yemen and Libya etc, gives the group a safe haven to operate against
the USA.  

President Barack Hussein Obama has attacked Bin Laden and his terror group through out the world.
God Bless President Obama!


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God Bless President Obama!


With the blood of thousands of soldiers and civilians on his hands I doubt God is blessing him





"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Paul's reluctance to kill AlQaeda operatives in Yemen and Libya etc, gives the group a safe haven to operate against
the USA.  

President Barack Hussein Obama has attacked Bin Laden and his terror group through out the world.
God Bless President Obama!


I love watching a person the advised people to read war is a racket now have the blood lust for war when it's a democrat committing the war.  Just another anti war phony.  Kill those moooslums right box?


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Ron Paul finished 3rd, carrying 2 Nevada counties.  If you added his third place votes and Gingrich's 2nd place votes
together, they still wouldn't beat the winner of the caucus, Romney.

Somehow this will be spun as a great victory for Paul.  


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The Improbable Ron Paul
By Alvaro Vargas Llosa
Spain - El Mundo

The phenomenon of the Republican Party presidential primaries is a 76-year-old OB/GYN with strong libertarian ideas, Ron Paul, who no one took seriously for over a quarter century. However, Ron Paul’s third-place finish in Iowa and second-place finish in New Hampshire only suggest two things: The first is that it is not a total misconception to imagine that he will have the most number of delegates in the Republican convention after winning this summer. This victory would give great support to his ideas on the electoral platform and in the presence of a massive national audience. The second aspect is the possibility of him becoming a third-party candidate, wreaking havoc for the Republican candidate, Mitt Romney, as he faces Obama.

The libertarians are not new. The Founding Fathers were, in a sense, the first libertarians of the United States. The modern version had its days of intellectual glory during the early decades of the 20th century, when — thanks to writers like H.L. Mencken, Albert Nock and Garet Garrett — the great ideological critique of the statist Roosevelt, who promoted the New Deal, was made plausible. This movement was subsequently called the New Right. Then, in the ‘60s and ‘70s, new institutes for research and research centers emerged as they spread the same ideas. The political corollary was the Libertarian Party, which was born in 1971 in Colorado.................................>>>>........................>>>>...................http://watchingamerica.com/News/140372/the-improbable-ron-paul/
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Selling Libertarianism

Libertarianism can only be sold to people who are convinced that it is *never* going to happen and completely utterly
*impossible* that their neck would ever be the one under the boot of the “free” individual actor.
This is exactly why libertarianism is always bound up in the continuation of systems of oppression such as racism, misogyny,
christianism, nativism, and the like. It is also exactly why libertarianism is invested in the elimination of empathy as both
an individual subjective experience and as an institutional structure.
(Freethoughtblog.com)


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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History has reserved to characters like this, in different parts of the ideological spectrum, a unique and remarkable place. Precursors, they are called. As noted by George Will, another highly respected conservative commentator in the U.S., Eugene Debs was a presidential candidate several times, running as a socialist in the early 20th century, and though he never won, he came to have such an influence in the end that Roosevelt’s New Deal included many of his proposals.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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SOCIALIST???
I love hearing the term spread around like those using it actually knew what Socialism was.

On the subject of SOCIALISM...

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As a person who grew up in the Union of the Soviet Socialist Republics, I am always puzzled by the way
that the word “socialism” is used in North America. Time and again, I hear, for example, that Canada is “Socialist.”
I thought that maybe there is a different meaning to this word but I just can’t find the definition of “socialism”
that North Americans rely on when they say that Obama, for instance, is a Socialist.

Here is what Wikipedia has to say about Socialism:
"Socialism  is an economic system characterized by social ownership or control of the means of production and
cooperative management of the economy, and a political philosophy advocating such a system. “Social ownership”
may refer to any one of, or a combination of, the following: cooperative enterprises, common ownership, direct
public ownership or autonomous state enterprises."

This is precisely the definition that I am familiar with and use. Social control of the means of production and
cooperative management of the economy. None of this even remotely exists in Canada and / or is advocated
by President Obama. So I’m guessing that there must be some radically different definition that people use.

I’m genuinely confused, folks. Does socialism in North America stand for something like “advocating
strong welfare programs and a strong social safety net”?
If so, then what do you call actual socialism?

(Carissa)

http://clarissasblog.com/2012/01/31/whats-socialism/


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Ron Paul Double Dipping!

It appears that Ron Paul is making money (at taxpayer expense) as he travels.

Rep. Ron Paul appears to have been paid twice for flights between Washington, D.C., and his Congressional district,
receiving reimbursement from taxpayers and also from a network of political and nonprofit organizations he controlled,

according to public records and documents obtained by Roll Call.
Roll Call identified eight flights for which the Texas Republican, a GOP presidential candidate and leading champion of
smaller government, was reimbursed twice for the same trip. Roll Call also found dozens more instances of duplicate
payments for travel from 1999 to 2009, totaling thousands of dollars' worth of excess payments, but the evidence in
those cases is not as complete.

Roll Call
"Records Show Ron Paul Trips Paid Twice"
http://www.rollcall.com/issues/57_90/Records-Show-Ron-Paul-Trips-Paid-Twice-212118-1.html?pos=hftxt


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