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36% of Americans view the TeaBaggers Party as favorable.

When I read... "Endorsed by a TeaBagger" I and many of the above mentioned, see it as a Negative, not a Positive.


You expect people to make the assumption that since 36% have a favorable then 64% must have an unfavorable opinion?  Since there a are only 32% of Americans registered Democrat, 68% must have an unfavorable opinion of Democrats.  

There are more Americans that have a favorable opinion of the "Tea Party" sentiment than Americans registered to either major party.


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You expect people to make the assumption that since 36% have a favorable then 64% must have an unfavorable opinion?  Since there a are only 32% of Americans registered Democrat, 68% must have an unfavorable opinion of Democrats.  

There are more Americans that have a favorable opinion of the "Tea Party" sentiment than Americans registered to either major party.


Dealing with Cicero is an exercise in Convoluted Logic.  
Example one:
~ You expect people to make the assumption that since 36% have a favorable then 64% must have an unfavorable
opinion?

No,  I would expect those who have a favorable rating (36%) might value the opinion of a TeaBagger.  Those who
are against TeaBaggers, or neutral or have no opinion... I would expect would not value the opinion of one DC
TeaBagger.

Example two:
~Since there are  32% of Americans registered Democrat, 68% must have an unfavorable opinion of Democrats.
By your logic, since only 35% of Americans registered as Republicans, then 65% must have an unfavorable opinion of
Republicans.

Example three:
~There are more Americans that have a favorable opinion of the "Tea Party" sentiment than Americans registered
to either major party.

More Cicero Logic  
There are roughly 1/3 Democrats, 1/3 Republicans and 1/3 Independents... Yet you eliminate Independents in
your post.  That leaves those who favor TeaBaggers still at 1/3rd of the total registered voters.




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Quoted from Box A Rox

One Conservative TeaBagger from DC,  decides to vote for Ron Paul.  

Is that really a positive endorsement, or a condemnation... Many Americans would look at that as a negative fact,
not a positive one.



many American's should stop being so satiated and waiting for the next F'EN American Idol vote......we seem to have stopped at the 'feel-good'-'feel-me' stage....no thinking beyond the slogans....

so for those who think of it as condemnation should also think about their own self voted for condemnation of what their liberty is....most folks fail to see the Truman show we have made for
ourselves via our votes.....

I'm not here to dispute that woman or even give a rats a$$ as to the teaparty/OWS crap......but I aint dead yet....last I checked I'm American and my vote COUNTS...and it's at my liberty
not my neighbors liberty.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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"Ron Paul is disgusting."

-- Rick Santorum, quoted by Fox News, blaming Paul for robocalls that claim Santorum is both Pro-Choice and against the
second amendment.

FoxSnooze
http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2012/01/03/santorum-ron-paul-disgusting


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"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Santorum's nephew just endorsed Ron Paul, that's got to hurt

http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/03/the-trouble-with-my-uncle-rick-santorum/


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If Ron Paul were my uncle...    I wouldn't publicize that fact, and I sure wouldn't endorse him.


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If Ron Paul were my uncle...    I wouldn't publicize that fact, and I sure wouldn't endorse him.


Yes we already know you need the government to wipe your a** for you


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Yes we already know you need the government to wipe your a** for you


I AM the government... just as you are... (I'm not too sure about Cicero though   )

We the people... the American people vote for who represents them in office to run OUR Government... Not
the other way around as you would have us believe.

(We all agree that  Corporate or Lobbyist corruption and graft exists, but it's not the norm)

The paranoia on this board is rampant.  Fear of everything and A Conspiracy Theory for every occasion.  
Some people see the glass half full, others half empty.  This board always sees the glass broken.  


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When most of the things our government tells us are lies it's very hard to trust them, both parties are guilty of this.
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We the people... the American people vote for who represents them in office to run OUR Government... Not
the other way around as you would have us believe.
  


That would have held true if they stuck with the law of the land but once 51% started enforcing their version of government unto the other 49% they no longer represent me.


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When most of the things our government tells us are lies it's very hard to trust them, both parties are guilty of this.


I went to the post office today to mail a package.  The Postman said it costs  $4.14 to mail the package.
Of course that was a lie. The postman represents the US Govt, so of course, he lied.

I read today that the US Census has the population of NY State in 2010 as 19,378,102.
The Census is a Big Govt operation... I think they are distorting the NY population to cut our Federal reimbursements...
Those bastards always cheat us.     


I got change from a $50 bill today.  The Clerk gave me a $20 bill that said on the face of the bill:
"Timothy F. Geithner, secretary of the Treasury"
A government issued $20 bill. This Geithner guy is probably a phony... He isn't the real Secretary of the Treasury.
Can't be!  No way!  Of the Govt says it, IT HAS TO BE A LIE.

Right Shadow? It's all lies.


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That would have held true if they stuck with the law of the land but once 51% started enforcing their version of government unto the other 49% they no longer represent me.


Since I didn't vote for GWB, and he didn't represent me at all... I want to bring down the whole system.  It's either
my President or No President.  

I got a vote in the 2000 election (of course the final vote count in that election was 5 to 4) but I was stuck with
disaster GWB.
I guess that I could have cried and moaned and pissed that Bush " started enforcing his version of government"
so GWB's laws don't apply to me.  


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Since I didn't vote for GWB, and he didn't represent me at all... I want to bring down the whole system.  It's either
my President or No President.  

I got a vote in the 2000 election (of course the final vote count in that election was 5 to 4) but I was stuck with
disaster GWB.
I guess that I could have cried and moaned and pissed that Bush " started enforcing his version of government"
so GWB's laws don't apply to me.  


If they overstep their power then no they shouldn't apply. Should the military now be able to kill you because Obama signed the NDAA, yeah I didn't think so.


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