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Need more proof Ron Paul is a real threat to the establishment



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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That was TOOOOOO FUNNY...Ron Paul is undressing the establishment.  They must be embarrassed.  This campaign has less to do with Ron Paul and more to do with exposing the corrupt government we live under.  The infrastructure that runs the American empire is crumbling right before our eyes.  It's AMAZING.  It's as if Paul is lifting the curtain on the wizard.


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That was TOOOOOO FUNNY...Ron Paul is undressing the establishment.  They must be embarrassed.  This campaign has less to do with Ron Paul and more to do with exposing the corrupt government we live under.  The infrastructure that runs the American empire is crumbling right before our eyes.  It's AMAZING.  It's as if Paul is lifting the curtain on the wizard.


Ron Paul is just one more Republican running in a Republican primary... Except for Ron Paul groupies, Ron Paul IS the
establishment.   The news here???
Some Republican will win.
The Republican winner of the last Iowa Caucus faded into obscurity... I assume Ron Paul will be the same.


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Except for Ron Paul groupies.


Groupies!!!


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Groupies!!!




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.  The infrastructure that runs the American empire is crumbling right before our eyes.  It's AMAZING.  It's as if Paul is lifting the curtain on the wizard.


Seeing the media flip flop like this should wake up everyone to the fact they have one agenda and that is the status quo, Chris Matthews goes from comparing Iowa to Lexington and Concord to being nothing, unbelievable


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Seeing the media flip flop like this should wake up everyone to the fact they have one agenda and that is the status quo, Chris Matthews goes from comparing Iowa to Lexington and Concord to being nothing, unbelievable


FLIP FLOP?  The media is doing what it always does... Finding news, or poor excuses for news and promoting the
story in  order to make money.
Look back at past elections, every candidate has his "Racist Newsletters" moments.  Some use them as an
opportunity, others (like Paul) sink into denial and self pity.

Huckabee won in Iowa, then faded away to nothing.  Obama won in Iowa and won the Presidency...
Iowa Caucus will post the view of a few thousand Iowans... no more.


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Box is back to using satire and cartoons to make his point.  It makes for useful propaganda.  When Paul's government philosophy is resonating throughout the country, character assassination is the only arrow left in the establishments quiver to stop the momentum.

Ron Paul Caricature.
Crazy
Homophobe
Racist
Isolationist
Anti Semite
Anti Women (Pro life)


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Box is back to using satire and cartoons to make his point.  It makes for useful propaganda.  When Paul's government philosophy is resonating throughout the country, character assassination is the only arrow left in the establishments quiver to stop the momentum.

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Paul's government philosophy is resonating throughout the country???  Possibly 3% of the US population support Paul.
Maybe much less.  He gets as much press, both good and bad as others running for office.
Is Sarah Palin's bimbo philosophy resonating throughout the country???
Is Gingrich's, or Obama's, or Romney's... they certainly have a much larger following.

Paul's philosophy resonating throughout the country... is a whimper of bastardized libertarianism in a roar of opposition.  


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That's why this thread has nearly 15,000 hits.


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That's why this thread has nearly 15,000 hits.


Just about everyone has heard about the Ron Paul Groupies and their "enthusiasm".   They are small in
number but huge in noise.  

I must have about a hundred hits on this thread... about 1/2 of them negative.  
Early on there were some 'after debate polls' where citizens could log on to a news network and vote for
who they thought won the debate.
Paul Groupies would swamp the polls so the numbers would always be 50% Paul, the rest between all others.

When eligible voters were polled, Ron Paul would draw about 12% for the same poll.  RP Groupies are a factor, but
in the election they will only have one vote each.  


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Michael Scheuer former CIA head of the Bin Laden unit endorses Paul

http://www.ronpaul.com/2011-12.....oldiers-and-marines/


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Michael Scheuer former CIA head of the Bin Laden unit endorses Paul

http://www.ronpaul.com/2011-12.....oldiers-and-marines/


So this is the guy that DIDN'T GET BinLaden.   His endorsement is important why???


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Ron Paul Sells FEAR in Iowa... Iowans are unimpressed.  

Paul being his usual self... selling a big bucket of fear in Iowa:
"If you want to use your property, you have to get a lot of permits. If you’re in the development business, from the
low-level all the way to the top, you have to get permission from the federal government…I’m fearful because some
people would like us to go all the way to the UN and have the UN controlling our lands, too.
And here he is warning of the coming violent riots that he hinted are already showing signs of developing on America’s
streets:

Freedom has been tested just rather rarely in all of history. in most of history, 90-99 percent of the time, people have
had to live under dictatorships. And as our government gets bigger, and violates our civil liberties with laws like the
Patriot Act that invade our privacy they become more dictatorial. … We are losing those liberties.
Our system was the greatest test and I fear that we’re going to give it up. And as it’s given up, if we don’t deal with
these problems, I am afraid that there will be more violence. People will get angry because they’re not going to get
what they believe they have a right to. So if you’ve been providing for something else that other people are providing
they get angry.

We already see this in Europe, we already see some of it in our own streets where people get angry and upset
, where people get angry and upset and if we don’t understand these issues to change the policy it’s going to get
a lot worse and then there will be chaos and people will be even more willing to give up their liberties."

(Paul is just firming up his base")



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Being honest is selling fear?

And BTW if I thought for one minute he was a racist I wouldn't back him.

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