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Box A Rox
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With Ron Paul President (and pigs flying) Paul suggests that he will repeal Roe V Wade.  He has no power to do that.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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With Ron Paul President (and pigs flying) Paul suggests that he will repeal Roe V Wade.  He has no power to do that.  


Well, if you listen to Ron Paul, you know the diffence between his philosophy on an issue and what he can do constitutionally as president.  Ron Paul is fully aware the process for repealing a federal law.


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Watch Dr. Pauls reaction. I teared up.
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What this guy says is true but I hope it isn't for the reason he states. By the way Box a rox will get a kick out of this guy, I'm sure right wing extremist will be used in his response



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Watch Dr. Pauls reaction. I teared up.


Paul sounds like a compassionate Doctor... He should have stayed a doctor instead of attempting to become
a politician.
Paul may do well representing the rednecks of his  Texas district... but he has little appeal from the rest of the country.

BTW, the more people hear about his Racist Newsletter, the more popular Ron Paul becomes.  Says a lot.  


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What this guy says is true but I hope it isn't for the reason he states. By the way Box a rox will get a kick out of this guy, I'm sure right wing extremist will be used in his response



Henry... Where did you find this wack job?
He states:
~ "He (Ron Paul) has more support than all GOP candidates combined"...

Really?  HUH.  The last poll I read showed Romney and Paul running about the same... and Gingrich trailing.

InsiderAdvantage poll in Iowa shows:
  Romney,  Gingrich and  Paul each at 17% .


A new American Research Group poll shows:
Romney  22%,
Gingrich at 17%,
Paul at 16%
Santorum at 11%.


I fear your video is a typical endorsement of Ron Paul...  Tall on Enthusiasm and Short on Facts.


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Do ya think the Republicans might stack the ballot box against Ron Paul???
Republicans do have a history of cheating in Presidential Elections (see Bush/Gore 2000)

The Iowa caucus is a joke anyway.  A few thousand Iowan Right Wingers vote and the rest of the USA is supposed
to care about their opinion.  

Have you wondered about the Democrat Iowa primary??? Their primary is held in one location... they announce a
Democrat candidate... his supporters stand... and they count the standing to determine who wins.  
Republicans demand the DRAMA!

John Huntsman had the right idea on the Iowa Caucus...
~  "They pick corn in Iowa. They pick presidents in New Hampshire." ~



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Have you wondered about the Democrat Iowa primary??? Their primary is held in one location... they announce a
Democrat candidate... his supporters stand... and they count the standing to determine who wins.  
Republicans demand the DRAMA!


Democrats are all statists.  Their primaries are candidates with varying degrees of just HOW BIG they can make the federal government in order to distribute "social justice".  Joe Lieberman was the party pariah a few years ago, he had to go independent...The democrats CRUSH any talk of limiting federal powers.


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A new We Ask America poll in Iowa shows
Mitt Romney 24%,
Rick Santorum at 17%,
Ron Paul at 14%,
Newt Gingrich at 13%,
Michele Bachman at 12%,
Rick Perry at 10%
Jon Huntsman at 4%.

"While many in the media focus on the move up by Rick Santorum and the falling numbers for Ron Paul, Romney seems
to be breaking through in Iowa.
Perhaps more important is the fact that 39% of all poll participants believe that Romney will ultimately be the GOP
Nominee."


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"Ron Paul Wants To Make Being Gay Illegal in Texas"



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Another disavow hit piece.  Painting Paul with somebody else's words.  They've moved from racist BACK to homophobe.  This is amazing to watch BOTH of the so-called liberal media and the so-called conservative media attack a candidate gaining grassroots popularity.  Looks like the establishment faux left and right in this country DO agree on something...DESTROY RON PAUL!!!


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Another disavow hit piece.  Painting Paul with somebody else's words.  They've moved from racist BACK to homophobe.  This is amazing to watch BOTH of the so-called liberal media and the so-called conservative media attack a candidate gaining grassroots popularity.  Looks like the establishment faux left and right in this country DO agree on something...DESTROY RON PAUL!!!


Remember when Paul complained that he was ignored by the Main Stream Media?
Well Paul solved that problem!  

My guess is that Ron Paul is probably not a closet racist in spite of his newsletters.  There are many other reasons NOT
TO VOTE FOR RON PAUL:

Would abolish the income tax
Would place the U.S. on the gold standard
Would allow citizens to engage in trade using gold and silver instead of currency
Would arbitrarily cut government regulations and believes that regulations only hurt businesses
Would eliminate the taxation of foreign income
Is a global warming denier
Says that Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare are unconstitutional
Would eliminate antitrust laws
Would eliminate the federal minimum wage
Would eliminate the Davis-Bacon Act and the Copeland Act
Would eliminate the estate and gift taxes
Would tax all earners at a 10 percent rate
Would eliminate tax credits to individuals who are not corporations
Would eliminate the elderly tax credit, child care credit and earned income credit
Voted to make it easier to decertify unions
Opposes Federal Deposit Insurance
Would revert government spending to 2004 levels and freeze it there
Opposes raising the debt ceiling for any reason
Would allow people to opt out of Social Security
Says that widespread bankruptcy is the stimulus the country needs
Opposed the auto industry bailouts
Favors tort reform
Opposes the regulation of tobacco
Would protect the 'privacy' of online sexual predators and child pornographers on public wi-fi networks
Would prevent federal courts from protecting citizens who have their rights denied
Opposed the Motor Voter law
Would allow states to ban gay marriage
Sponsored the Marriage Protection Act
Would repeal affirmative action
Would limit the scope of Brown v. Board of Education
Says that emergency rooms should be able to turn away undocumented immigrants
Opposes the Americans With Disabilities Act
Voted anti-choice more than 90 times as a member of Congress
Voted to eliminate all international family planning funds
Voted for the Stupak amendment banning abortion coverage by private health insurance companies
Voted in favor of fetal personhood laws
Would eliminate all funding for Planned Parenthood
Would ban flag burning
Would weaken regulation of dietary supplements
Supports a ban on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research
Opposes subsidies for prescription drugs for seniors
Opposes mandatory vaccinations
Would expand offshore oil drilling
Would increase mining on federal lands
Would weaken the Clean Air Act
Would repeal the Soil and Water Conservation Act
Would weaken the Federal Water Pollution Control Act
Would eliminate departments of Energy, Education, Agriculture, Commerce, Health and Human Services, Homeland
Security, and Labor
Would eliminate the Environmental Protection agency
Would eliminate FEMA
Would eliminate the Federal Reserve
Would eliminate the Occupational Health and Safety Administration
Would eliminate AmeriCorps
Would eliminate spending to combat AIDS overseas
Would eliminate gas taxes
Opposes the census gathering demographic data on Americans
Opposed the dismantling of U.S. nuclear missile silos
Wanted to withdraw the U.S. from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty
Wants to claim the Panama Canal as sovereign U.S. territory
Opposes the International Criminal Court
Would withdraw the U.S. from the U.N.
Supports the electoral college and believes that the U.S. is not a democracy
Believes that we have no right to health care
Would eliminate birthright citizenship
Believes that law enforcement can't help people, only armed citizens can prevent violence
Would allow the legal sale of unpasteurized milk
Believes that groups of people don't have rights, only individuals do
Believes that government cannot redistribute wealth in any way
Believes in the concept of 'jury nullification', the idea that a jury can judge not only the facts in a case but the
justness of the law itself
Believes that social welfare should be in the hands of individuals only, not government



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Would allow citizens to engage in trade using gold and silver instead of currency
I love this one...Instead of "currency".    That's funny.

Opposes the census gathering demographic data on Americans
This one you just flat out lie.  He wants to limit the census to name, address, number of people living in household.  Income statistics are not necessary for the federal government.

Supports the electoral college and believes that the U.S. is not a democracy
The United States is a REPUBLIC, that's the reason for the electoral college.  If you want direct democracy, then you might as well eliminate state sovereignty.  

Believes that groups of people don't have rights, only individuals do
This one is ironic...This is written by a person that disagrees with the premise that corporations(group of people) are people.

Believes that we have no right to health care
No, the constitution and bill of rights doesn't list this as a right.  If it does, reference that for me.

Opposes the FEDERAL regulation of tobacco
You omitted a crucial part.

Would revert government spending to 2004 levels and freeze it there
We are $15 TRILLION in debt.  No brainer.

Would eliminate all FEDERAL[/b] funding for Planned Parenthood
Federal Government has $15 TRILLION debt.  NO MONEY...NO BRAINER...States can pay for it if they want it.

Is a [b]man made
global warming denier
He is a doctor, he understand scientific theory and knows that the evidence isn't even close to being conclusive.  

These are just some of Box's distortions.  Boxes list tells us more about his insecurities and his fear of losing the omnipotent big brother that is the Federal Government. The big government statists are becoming hysterical.  

Box, here's a hypothetical.  Would you vote for George W. Bush or Ron Paul?


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Box, here's a hypothetical.  Would you vote for George W. Bush or Ron Paul?


Assuming that in the election of 2000 it was a Bush/Paul election... I'd probably opt for Bush, as I assume he
would do less damage.
If that election were to take place today, I'd probably opt for Paul.

The choice would be a poor one between "bad" and "worse" only I don't know which is which.



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