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To change the result of this study, you'd only need to find a thousand supporters, and have then each send 100
positive Tweets a day for your candidate for a week.  
If a thousand Ron Paul supporters just Tweeted "I LIKE RON PAUL" one hundred times a day for a week, Ron Paul
would have an extra 700,000 Tweets... much more than half of all the Tweets measured in the study.




You sound like a conspiracy theorist, I bet most people didn't even know they keep track of such things.



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You sound like a conspiracy theorist, I bet most people didn't even know they keep track of such things.



The Paul Campaign has done other desperate maneuvers to get publicity... like the Straw Polls where Paul Supporters
stacked the deck.  Perfectly legal, and for those who don't follow politics, the impression that Paul is out ahead, when
actually, he is lagging far behind the front runners in most states.


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"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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The Paul Campaign has done other desperate maneuvers to get publicity... like the Straw Polls where Paul Supporters stacked the deck.


What used to be called having an organized ground game and enthusiasm is not considered "stacking the deck" by the establishment type.  

Peoples answers given to pollsers on phone surveys is now more important than supporters actually showing up to cast a vote at a straw poll.


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Stacking the Deck:


Rep. Ron Paul scored a decisive victory Saturday in a mock presidential election at the Values Voter Summit,
trouncing fellow Texan, Gov. Rick Perry, but an organizer of the straw poll suggested ballot-stuffing may
have skewed the results.

In a press conference following the announcement of the straw poll results at the annual Washington gathering
of social
conservatives, Family Research Council President Tony Perkins all but dismissed the results as irrelevant, citing
600 people
who registered Saturday morning and, he said, "left after Ron Paul spoke."
A total of 1,983 ballots were cast. "You do the math," Perkins said.
A year ago in the same contest, Paul came in second-to-last.
"Paul has a history of scoring unlooked-for straw poll wins by packing the electorate with diehard supporters."

Perkins said his organization did "everything to preserve the integrity of this straw poll," including denying
campaigns
from buying blocks of tickets, "which they attempted to do this year." But Santorum on Friday seemed dubious,
and told National Journal that his success in the polls would depend "on how many people, how many campaigns,
tried to buy a bunch of tickets and try to stack the poll, which unfortunately happens."

(CBS News)
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20117696-503544.html


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Box, you forgot to bold the word "suggested".  That is an important word to omit.


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Box, you forgot to bold the word "suggested".  That is an important word to omit.


As you forgot to bold " TWO YEAR COLLEGES"... in fact you omitted those facts completely!  


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but an organizer of the straw poll suggested


who?




"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

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Stacking the Deck:
, but an organizer of the straw poll suggested ballot-stuffing may
have skewed the results.




Paul wins so they dismiss it as cheating, and when is supporting a candidate and having the motivation to go to these things, not to mention having to pay a bad thing. The point of straw polls is to see which way the country is heading, if the other candidates can't rally their troops what does that say about them.


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Paul wins so they dismiss it as cheating, and when is supporting a candidate and having the motivation to go to these things, not to mention having to pay a bad thing. The point of straw polls is to see which way the country is heading, if the other candidates can't rally their troops what does that say about them.


IMO, Paul did well by stacking the deck in these early straw polls.  Paul needs more voters to "look at him"  
to determine if he is a serious candidate or just another fringe candidate.
All candidates are spending their campaign dollars in ways that best promote their image.  To finish first
in a straw poll is a good thing... to be seen as stacking the deck, isn't.


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How is it stacking if the supporters show up, any of the other candidates supporters could have attended and done the same. It shows they either don't have grassroots support or they don't have any motivation, either way that is a loss for them. If they can't get more than 600 people to attend a straw poll how good do you think they will fare comes the primaries or general elections.


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How is it stacking if the supporters show up, any of the other candidates supporters could have attended and done the same. It shows they either don't have grassroots support or they don't have any motivation, either way that is a loss for them. If they can't get more than 600 people to attend a straw poll how good do you think they will fare comes the primaries or general elections.


The people who vote in these straw polls are not your average everyday voter... they are political hacks and campaign
workers that often are employed, or volunteer for the candidate.
If my candidate were in last place, I'd probably stack the deck for my candidate.  If I were leading, or a close second,
I wouldn't waste my resources on a meaningless process.
IMO, it was a good idea for Paul to stack the deck... it helped him survive with the impression to the voters that he
has broad support.


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"Guy White - Bush Derangement Syndrome"
            



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Plans for a war in Iraq started well before 9/11, many people still don't know that.


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Plans for a war in Iraq started well before 9/11, many people still don't know that.


The Bushy plan to invade Iraq was first discussed by the Bush group in 1998 or1999. Once elected all they
needed was an excuse.  If the  Sept11th attacks hadn't happened, the Bushies would have invented an excuse.

The tragedy of the WTC attack, that had nothing to do with Iraq, was a perfect excuse.


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