anyhow....if god is against abortion god's great hand would come down and stop it.......and/or yell really loud into the woman's head about how wrong it is..... as for man's law for or against abortion it makes no difference....abortions have been happening for thousands of years, both spontaneous and induced....just like brewing beer and making it illegal....yeah, you cant get rid of it....
just because something is illegal doesn't make it wrong just because something is legal doesn't make it right
hence the replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox
keep the government out of your head and make your choices
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
hence the replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox
keep the government out of your head and make your choices
Laws are supposed to be the collective conscience of the people. Murder in our society is illegal in all cases EXCEPT the unborn. The most vulnerable in our society is not protected by law. In this sense we are still barbaric.
Laws are supposed to be the collective conscience of the people. Murder in our society is illegal in all cases EXCEPT the unborn. The most vulnerable in our society is not protected by law. In this sense we are still barbaric.
So you believe abortion should be used as birth control? YIKES!!!
YUP.....if abortion was such an effect we would be sitting here typing over the world wide web......again I will say that if chosen the person lives with the choice just like living with the choice of not having one......
those are the nitty-gritty conversations that should take place between the people involved and the government IS NOT GOOD AT DETAIL...nor should it be....
even if we tossed a crap load of $$(and there are millions tossed at it already) as Box says,,,it wont matter....it still comes down to one of the basest functions of humans.......and even the best educated folks lack the ability to 'think' over the hormones.....everyone is involved.....
kings of old and kings of present have babies they wish they didn't....both in and especially OUT of wedlock(henry the 8th and others) atleast Mr. Clinton had a mind to use a cigar for birthcontrol....
you shall live like kings and die like men(this also pertains to women, it just happens to be written in the masculin)
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
I also think there are way too many 'baby's daddy' and 'baby's mama'.......so what are we going to do about them?....elevate them because they didn't choose abortion? nah,,,,we're going to hand out food stamps, pay for their heat, cable, cell phones, timberlands, escalades etc etc........go ahead....I say GET OFF MY BACK.....
as for being liberal.....try LIBERTARIAN
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Laws are supposed to be the collective conscience of the people. Murder in our society is illegal in all cases EXCEPT the unborn. The most vulnerable in our society is not protected by law. In this sense we are still barbaric.
because until it breathes on it's own it is not surviving....as for a person who has been living and surviving then has a tramatic accident and needs assistance to breathe they get to choose if they want to have it artificially....the system set up either law/medicine is for a person who exists on it's own---that is personhood.....
now if you find that a baby is at conception then by all means DONT ABORT....your choice....I'm not going to make you....
what is a collective conscience and how does it get made?
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
because until it breathes on it's own it is not surviving....as for a person who has been living and surviving then has a tramatic accident and needs assistance to breathe they get to choose if they want to have it artificially....the system set up either law/medicine is for a person who exists on it's own---that is personhood.....
So, someone who needs it can choose breath artificially - relying on another for one precious breath - but a baby in a womb, who relies on another for respiration, is different?
I have to say, if I'm left with you as my medical professional, transfer me to another facility.
So, someone who needs it can choose breath artificially - relying on another for one precious breath - but a baby in a womb, who relies on another for respiration, is different?
I have to say, if I'm left with you as my medical professional, transfer me to another facility.
I am talking choice.....DNR? DNI? tube feeding? IV hydration? YOU are responsible for your choices....I dont care what they are.....they are yours personally by your personal convictions....I totally respect that....
there is no baby until it is OUTSIDE the womb.....if you believe it is a baby in the womb then by all means do what you believe is right in your mind... it's your body, your relationship, your conscience........
but remember the LAW HAS NO SOUL.....that is not an ally........and when we make man's law into a god we lose other 'rights' for our lack of understanding(said by Jesus)....if you believe in god then god is your conscience for yourself and god will take care of everyone else.....that's god's job not yours or mine....otherwise we are not different than the muslim extremists who force their 'law' on others because 'god told them so'.....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Right Wing Emotion... "MURDER" a "BABY"... very dramatic.
Does anyone object if we "Murder" Mike/Mary from post #2? See Mike/Mary's Pic below:
Somehow, MURDER a BABY, and aborting Mike/Mary is a very different thing. The "Force Women To Birth" crowd of Right Wingers would have you believe that "Mike/Mary" IS a baby. And they want you to actually believe that aborting Mike/Mary would be Killing a Baby.
Take a good look at Mike/Mary... does he/she look anything like a baby to you?
So if their "murder a baby" view is BS... You might want to suspect the rest of their agenda.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Right Wing Emotion... "MURDER" a "BABY"... very dramatic.
Does anyone object if we "Murder" Mike/Mary from post #2? See Mike/Mary's Pic below:
Somehow, MURDER a BABY, and aborting Mike/Mary is a very different thing. The "Force Women To Birth" crowd of Right Wingers would have you believe that "Mike/Mary" IS a baby. And they want you to actually believe that aborting Mike/Mary would be Killing a Baby.
Take a good look at Mike/Mary... does he/she look anything like a baby to you?
So if their "murder a baby" view is BS... You might want to suspect the rest of their agenda.
you betcha.....keep the logic and remove the feelings.....this goes to the left as well....why? because I cant help what you 'feel'....if the left 'feels' it needs to feed everyone who they impose their own idea of 'poor' upon, then by all means feed them....but do it on your own dime/back/sweat etc.... as I will too....and if the left thinks I dont give enough then they to are imposing their ideas upon me by using the government to decide the line in the sand of poor/rich/weak/strong......ockham's razor swings in both directions.....equality in 'stuff' is subjective...I dont have a mansion because I am poor...I dont have a mansion because I'm not going to clean the freakin' thing and I dont want to work for it like a dog....I have other choices that I prefer to spend my energy on.....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
I guess they don't look at black folks as 'persons', since it is the black folks that have the largest % of abortions. And hey, wasn't that the plan all along?
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
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