So there was no lie... and the Crime? War casualties are NOT a crime. They should be avoided but are not CRIMINAL. Read the Geneva Conventions to find out the difference between war casualties and war crimes.
A WAR CRIME (like water boarding) torture, something that the US & it's allies have executed war criminals for, is quite different than casualties of war. Since Obama didn't lie (Bush did) and you haven't offered even a hint of a war crime (Bush=Torture), you were quite right... You are wasting your time and mine.
like it's a new thing???? the only reason it's a 'new thing' is because of media.....but media cannot change what war is....there IS NO CIVILIZED WAR.....war just is......either your in it for a goal or not......and that goal can be land/food/oil/$$ etc......it just needs to be spoken.....I say get out unless we absolutely need it for our survival......
again----there is no draft......
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Cis-you have a comprehension problem, I like Boxy, said NO to Libya. Stop spinning this to look like we and or me, support this.
Let's see--how about this: 1.US taxpayers are funding the largest number of foreign miliary bases ever! 2.These bases generate a LOT of anger all over the globe and are a recrutiment tool for enemies of the US.
3. Foregin bases cost taxpayers about $100 billion per year, BRING THE TROOPS HOME.
And what about the war profiteers?
The profits and executive bonuses of contactors come directly from your tax dollars. Look atr Lockheed Martin.
US is first in military spending followed by China--but they are so far down from us it isn't even worth talking about. Saudia Arabia almost at the bottom of the list. More than 50% of the taxes you pay goes to both current miliary spending and interest on the Federal debt ATTRIBUTAL to past military spending.
In MY opinion the Afghanistan policy announced by Obama is economically unsustainable. Does that SOUND LIKE I AM NOW SUPPORTING OUR GOING INTO LIBYA? SNAP OUT OF IT!
Cis-you have a comprehension problem, I like Boxy, said NO to Libya. Stop spinning this to look like we and or me, support this.
No, my comprehension is fine. I realize you and box both stop at just saying "no to Libya". Where as if this were a Republican president you would be calling for impeachment, calling him a war criminal and liar, saying this is an illegal war, claiming bombing Libya would create more Muslim terrorist. Box would be surfing Huffington and Kos and posting the body count of dead Libyan civilians with pictures, then claiming we our military is spread too thin, and he is not using our military resources to fight Al-Qaeda. Listing defense contractors that are profiting off of this and connecting them to Obama. With you and Box, the argument against Libya seems to stop at a simple "I don't agree with Libya" without the over the top rhetoric.
The anti war opposition to this kinetic military action seems to be missing the vitriol. Especially with Obama not even bringing the reason and objective behind the war to the American people. He authorized military action from Brazil for christ sakes without consensus from Congress. Nobody sees the arrogance of that? We are killing Libyans in the name of saving Libyans? Oh yeah,,,that's right, as long as you kill with the blessing of the UN, it's excusable.
Using the UN to justify killing is like playing the roll of Pontius Pilot. No Libyan blood on Obama's hands. Anything to protect you Messiah.
Be careful boxy!!! And don't be fooled by the small stuff.
Do you see how they are silencing the 'opposition' in the middle east??
Don't think for a minute that it won't happen here.
Get the book boxy........THE RISE OF THE FOURTH REICH!!! It's unfolding as we post!!!
And hey, isn't it rather strange that there was no media coverage of the great oil spill in fla? No media coverage of gitmo. No media coverage of Libya? No media coverage of anything.....EXCEPT....what they want you to believe and think!!! Get it yet boxy. Dem or rep...it don't matter!!
They have you right where they want you!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Let's see--how about this: 1.US taxpayers are funding the largest number of foreign miliary bases ever! 2.These bases generate a LOT of anger all over the globe and are a recrutiment tool for enemies of the US.
3. Foregin bases cost taxpayers about $100 billion per year, BRING THE TROOPS HOME.
And what about the war profiteers?
The profits and executive bonuses of contactors come directly from your tax dollars. Look atr Lockheed Martin.
US is first in military spending followed by China--but they are so far down from us it isn't even worth talking about. Saudia Arabia almost at the bottom of the list. More than 50% of the taxes you pay goes to both current miliary spending and interest on the Federal debt ATTRIBUTAL to past military spending.
You did a good job outlining your overall disdain for our military. But...You come short of criticizing your messiah's(BHO) use of the military on this particular military action. Let's talk about Obama's decision to use the military in Libya and not the military and war in general.
Obama didn't lie. OK, so there are no more troops in Iraq or Afghanistan, right? And Gitmo is closed, right? And there's no additional taxes for the middle class, right?
Obama fulfilled his campaign promise on Iraq. Is in the process on Afghanistan and so far, not closed Gitmo.
The Middle Class got a tax cut under Obama... and thanks to the Republicans... So did the Millionaires.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Obama fulfilled his campaign promise on Iraq. Is in the process on Afghanistan and so far, not closed Gitmo.
The Middle Class got a tax cut under Obama... and thanks to the Republicans... So did the Millionaires.
No, actually, he just changed the name of the troops in Iraq. Let me know when the lights are turned out in Afghanistan. What tax cut was that the middle class got?
Who cares what the world's greatest butchers (the Europenises) think.
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
Cis have you noticed how Roxy can never address your points with facts? They are simply "BS"...or you are just plain nuts...typical liberal...those darn facts always ruin everything.
Who cares what the world's greatest butchers (the Europenises) think.
That's what I said ! We shouldn't give two $hits what the rest of the world thinks of our policies.
We should withdraw from the UN and take our majority share of the funding with us... throw those bastards out of that very valuable real estate in NYC.
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