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heard a new commercial on the radio....it's a lawyer/legal council commercial (the name escapes me)....but the commercial was talking about DWI and the 'problems' when test at roadside is wrongly performed....BUT, the best part was
when the lawyer said in court the honest and peaceable officer did explain that he himself performed the test wrong thereby absolving the driver of the DWI charge.....

pay attention to the words used in those commercials.....they are changing......and the grey matter will take it in like osmosis.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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If you are talking about violent crime I don't agree.  Perhaps in some cases, but, not as a general trend.  

Patches

You are right.  I think they need to add some type of educational component in the schools re: relationships and how to manage them.  Additionally, increase the penalties.  It is absolutely shocking
and disgraceful how prevalent domestic violence is.
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RE: the Peters trial - Luibrand conveniently left out the fact that another witness heard her yelling "He's beating me."  And, while the girls admitted drinking, there was no evidence they were drunk.

And another witness was not allowed to testify because they were out of the country and would have had to be questioned by means of skype.  
Selective use of the facts to buttress his reasons for victory.


The matter has been decided by the jury so the criminal trial is over, but, Kevin conveniently leaves a lot of testimony out in his post trial interviews.


Very ironic - how the watchdog of police misconduct is not the protector of SPD officers accused of misconduct.
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Thanks Visitor...

good ol' boys rule.....some of the higher ups have not been female....and that's something to be desired..

as long as the male rules...this is what will happen......the battered women have to stand up and be counted ...

if it happened then it should have been a no contest....but when you have two telling different stories and then one recanting..

what do you expect????.....drop the charges, go free, and on and on it goes.....

The only one that can stop it  ?????    THE WOMAN !!!!!!!!.
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Thanks Visitor...

good ol' boys rule.....some of the higher ups have not been female....and that's something to be desired..

as long as the male rules...this is what will happen......the battered women have to stand up and be counted ...

if it happened then it should have been a no contest....but when you have two telling different stories and then one recanting..

what do you expect????.....drop the charges, go free, and on and on it goes.....

The only one that can stop it  ?????    THE WOMAN !!!!!!!!.


I'm not sure.....peckerheads come in many forms.....women and men are included in this.....logic on the other hand has no orientation.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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would like to see women supporting women no matter what.....why does there have to be negativity and judgemnt when

it comes to domestic violence....men behave in irrational ways ....so do women.....but, the stats show more men are

abusers.....and murderers, ....and it's way out of whack these days....

No more divorces, separations, child custody, etc.,    just beat or kill....and it affects the children too....


oh, BTW who runs brothels...who are the pimps....escort service providers....that's a form of abuse also....but, it's ok

according to law in some places.....

I am advocate for women's rights 100%.....
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correction  they were young women not girls
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I would personally like to see the First Responders in uniform be given a 24 - hour window in which to round up, and "take care of" any of the GOP/NNTP Nayboobs using whatever means necessary to do so..   I am CERTAIN that each and every officer that wears his or her uniform with dignity will agree that Republicans and their ilk need to be removed FIRST before further societal progress can be enjoyed.


"We have to talk about liberating minds as well as liberating society."
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what the hell are you talking about???......what I satated has  nothing to do with first responders or politics..

the whole thing is about abuse domiestic violence......

a little more than just what the article was about with the cop and his fiance.


happened that Dr Pho;'s show today was on this very subject....
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The Hollywood Madame was whom?

The Madam who was Spitzer's hookers boss?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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the owner of Shenanigans??


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Oh come on......the males are all over the place.....yes, women are included.......

Don't berate what is already known.....it all started with Adam and Eve...     LOL
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SCHENECTADY
City aims to fire acquitted cop
Prior to arrest, Peters had lived rent-free in Union apartment

BY STEVEN COOK Gazette Reporter

    The city Police Department is pressing forward with its efforts to fi re Offi cer Eric Peters over domestic violence allegations, despite a City Court jury’s verdict acquitting Peters last week on related criminal charges, Public Safety Commissioner Wayne Bennett said Wednesday.
    Meanwhile, an apparent agreement between Union College and the police over housing arrangements, mentioned in testimony at last week’s criminal trial, ended after Peters’ arrest last year, both sides said. The agreement allowed an offi cer to live in a Union College apartment on Park Place rent free in exchange for participating in community events and providing a presence in the neighborhood.
    Bennett said Wednesday the city ended the agreement shortly after Peters’ March 2011 arrest, when it came to offi cials’ attention, because he and then-Corporation Counsel L. John Van Norden found it to be inappropriate.
    A Union College spokesman Wednesday also confirmed the program ended then, with college officials deciding the program was no longer needed.
    Peters, 37, stood trial last week in City Court on one count each of attempted assault and unlawful imprisonment, both misdemeanors. The jury took about two hours to acquit Peters on both counts.
    The department has been trying to terminate Peters over the allegations and has been holding an internal disciplinary hearing on the matter. Bennett confirmed Wednesday that the efforts to terminate Peters are continuing.
    Bennett noted the burden of proof in the internal hearing isn’t as high as in a criminal proceeding. In a criminal proceeding, it must be proved beyond a reasonable doubt. In the hearing, it’s a preponderance of the evidence, he said.
    The final day of the internal hearings is Friday. Independent hearing offi cer Jeffrey Selchick will then make his recommendation, something that is not expected for two to three months.
    During the criminal trial, prosecutors alleged that Peters repeatedly struck his fiancee, Bonnie Crandall, inside her truck on Park Place on St. Patrick’s Day night 2011, then pulled her back into the truck when she tried to get out.
    Crandall consistently denied Peters struck her and testifi ed to that on the stand. Peters also testified at the trial, denying striking Crandall or pulling her back into the truck.
    The case was largely based on the testimony of a Union graduate student and her co-worker, who said they witnessed the incident. The three-man, threewoman jury sided with Peters, however, and acquitted him.
    Peters’ attorney Kevin Luibrand, who is also representing Peters in the disciplinary hearing, said after the verdict that the case illustrates how the department operates now — suspending offi cers, filing charges and assuming officers are guilty.
    During his trial, Peters cited the agreement with Union on rent as among his reasons for going to the city police dispatch center shortly after the incident on Park Place, asking if there were any calls to Park Place.
    Peters testified that he loudly argued with his fiancee in the truck and up to the front door of the building. A man he believed might have been a Union College student appeared to make a move to intervene. Peters, though, testified he told him get back and mind his own business, using a police command presence voice.
    It was that interaction that prompted Peters to go to dispatch, he testified. He feared it would be misrepresented or misunderstood, leading to him losing the free-rent arrangement. He said he couldn’t afford to lose it, and neither could his fi ancee.
    Prosecutors, though, argued Peters’ trip to dispatch showed “consciousness of guilt” in the alleged attempted assault on his fiancee, an argument the jury apparently didn’t accept.
    Nonetheless, losing the arrangement was a result of the incident. Peters was asked to leave following his arrest, Union College spokesman Phil Wajda said Wednesday.
    Wajda said the program began about 10 years ago as a way to get added police presence in the neighborhood. In exchange for the free rent, the offi cer would agree to attend neighborhood watch meetings, offer community policing and outreach services and attend other events. The residents would also know him and who he was. ......................>>>>.....................>>>>........................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r00103&AppName=1
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This thread should be removed..


"We have to talk about liberating minds as well as liberating society."
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This thread should be removed..


for posterity's sake????


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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