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Contrary to the lies told by DV's plexy buddies in that stupid press release, here it is. It's as plain as day!!!!
BOMBER'S AINT PAYING A PILOT!!!!! Got that!!!!! Here's why:
First go back at post a while back on Schenectady taxes, I don’t know if I copied and pasted or if I did a link from the Schenectady Informer site, but I found it on there, these are the “tax rates per thousand” that affect the people in the city of Schenectady:
City $13.09 County 6.66 Election charge .21 School 20.91 That tallies to $40.87 per thousand.
Now, look at the records. Bombers is assessed for $531,000. But they have a property tax exemption in the amount of $774,500. Yes, not only intelligent people, but also idiots would ask, how can a property tax exemption amount exceed the assessed value.
If Bombers was paying the full property tax, the total (all four taxes listed above) would total $21,702 ($531,000 divided by 1,000 = 531. Then $531 x 40.87 = 21,702)
Now look at the difference between the exemption value and the assessment value: $774,500 - $531,000 = $243,500.
The value of that "extra" exemption is $ 9,972 ($243,500 divided by 1,000 = $244. Then $244 x $40,87 = $ 9,972)
Metroplex's so called press release proudly proclaims that Bombers pays a so called PILOT of $8,407
Essentially what is happening is that Bombers full property assessment is exempt from taxes. Then they receive, in a manner of speaking, a check from the taxpayers (forcibly stolen from the financially struggling taxpayers) in the amount of $9,972.
So out of this welfare check sent to Bombers, Bombers uses the handout to pay it's PILOT.
Then it still has $1,565 left.....my understanding is that "tax" exemptions apply to "taxes" but not to fees. I believe my understanding is correct, but Pat Z can certainly confirm that. So, Bombers is still on the hook for water and sewer fees, which they can be paid out of that $1,500 balance. Commercial property owners do not have city trash collection, therefore, while I'm guessing that the water and sewer fees don't total $1,565, there is probably still money left over with which to pay their trash fees to a private trash company.
So DV's dem cronies have fixed it so that it looks like Bombers pays a PILOT, but in reality, this LOL (lack of leadership) team with this SOS Mayor (Son of Sam aka Symbol of Socialism) in effect have given Bombers a tax exemption that FAR EXCEEDS their property value so the excess can be used to fund their PILOT.
LIES AND THEFT FROM THE FINANCIALLY STRUGGLING TAXPAYERS is all that comes out of the team of Stratton, McCarthy, Gillen, and Savage.
Gee, let's see how many good people with decent incomes who come in from outside of the capital region to go see the Lion King end up deciding to by a house in the city. ROFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT wouldn't happen in the next 50 years !!!!!!!!!!!!! And THAT is a guarantee!!!!!!!!! |
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LIES AND THEFT FROM THE FINANCIALLY STRUGGLING TAXPAYERS is all that comes out of the team of Stratton, McCarthy, Gillen, and Savage
another form of welfare.....let's see if Mr. Cuomo will agree with that.....it's a machine that has sh!t coming out of it....he has the SS team now Stratton Savage |
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Wow mike !!!!
You should send it to the reporter who did the story, or better yet send it to the TU.
I just finished printing out something to hand out before the council meeting : )
I worked on it most of the day.
And I wrote up the other day what I'm going to say for my three minutes, it's' going to be a bit unusual cause I am unusual. Think I may get gaveled or a comment made at me also lol
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Taxes are not "forcibly stolen" from anyone ... stolen implies that it was illegally taken .. the tax that goes to fund Metroplex was LEGALLY approved by the state legislature and the county legislature ----- and .. oh yeah .. Hugh Farley says he was responsible for setting up Metroplex but you don't see the a-holes like MC talking about that.
Metroplex has done a great job in Downtown Schenectady under Ray Gillen and the Democratic TEAM on the County Leg ... the Reich-Wing Nattering Nayboobs of Negativity are just livid that we had the audacity to turn turn Downtown around from the empty ghost town that the GOP led County Legislature had turned it into.
They have always been the party of no --- they want no progress .. no common sense .. no improvement .. and they have no idea how to govern effectively.
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Thank you MC1, thank you for doing the math and proving the point that a for-profit business is having its PILOT funded with taxpayer money. Certainly explains why the City taxpayers are going bankrupt ...funding businesses will take more money than Schenectady has.
So, are ALL the PILOTS getting taxpayer money to pay their bills? This is backdoor dealing and 'fancy' math. Too bad MC1 can add.... |
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Figures don't lie, but liars can sure figure. |
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Taxes are not "forcibly stolen" from anyone ... stolen implies that it was illegally taken .. the tax that goes to fund Metroplex was LEGALLY approved by the state legislature and the county legislature ----- and .. oh yeah .. Hugh Farley says he was responsible for setting up Metroplex but you don't see the a-holes like MC talking about that.
Metroplex has done a great job in Downtown Schenectady under Ray Gillen and the Democratic TEAM on the County Leg ... the Reich-Wing Nattering Nayboobs of Negativity are just livid that we had the audacity to turn turn Downtown around from the empty ghost town that the GOP led County Legislature had turned it into.
They have always been the party of no --- they want no progress .. no common sense .. no improvement .. and they have no idea how to govern effectively.
just because something is legal doesn't make it right just because something is wrong doesn't make it illegal you know as well as I that ANY LINGO USED BY LEGAL BEGALS leaves the populace wanting for lack of understanding....should have left latin in the public schools along with the bible(not for the religious use but the study of the 2edge sword 101)...shame shame shame |
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Metroplex has done a great job in Downtown Schenectady under Ray Gillen and the Democratic TEAM on the County Leg
EXTRA! EXTRA! Read all about it! The truth is coming out for all to see. Revenues down, Metrograft costs up, Taxes way up, Crime way Up. Bombers is only one example of socialism gone wild. The politically connected pigs Downtown are about to be unmasked. Death Ray knows it that's why the fax has been overheated. Things are so wonderful the City can't pay for basic police and fire protection and one City DEM after another jumps ship. Stop confusing DVR with the facts his mind's made up. It's all Farley's fault although DEMS have been running things into the ground at every level of government. Death Ray must be fired and Metrograft dissolved. |
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just because something is legal doesn't make it right just because something is wrong doesn't make it illegal
you know as well as I that ANY LINGO USED BY LEGAL BEGALS leaves the populace wanting for lack of understanding....should have left latin in the public schools along with the bible(not for the religious use but the study of the 2edge sword 101)...shame shame shame
I have absolutely NO problem paying the extra sales tax to fund Metroplex -- it is money well spent. They have done an awesome job under Ray Gillen and the Democratic majority on the County Leg. I see no further point in arguing. |
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I have absolutely NO problem paying the extra sales tax to fund Metroplex -- it is money well spent. They have done an awesome job under Ray Gillen and the Democratic majority on the County Leg.
I see no further point in arguing.
you were making useless points, as if writing up some legal mumbo jumbo that 99% of the masses would have to pay someone else to interpret for them as your reasoning was the final answer and the only RIGHT one...... it's hard to buy a meal/drink/movie/theater ticket with food stamps/heap |
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Everyone is laughing at the idiotic fax Death Ray sent out in a failed attempt to cover his tracks. Lies about The Big Hose, lies about PILOTS {which are tanking}, filled with inflated figures that do not add up. It's better to be quiet and let people assume your stupidity than open your mouth and remove all doubts. The MSM will be all over this taxpayer scandal. Like Quadafi surrounded by stooges-his days are numbered. |
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Everyone is laughing at the idiotic fax Death Ray sent out in a failed attempt to cover his tracks. Lies about The Big Hose, lies about PILOTS {which are tanking}, filled with inflated figures that do not add up. It's better to be quiet and let people assume your stupidity than open your mouth and remove all doubts. The MSM will be all over this taxpayer scandal. Like Quadafi surrounded by stooges-his days are numbered.
Gillen should have never had the gazetto print that story!!! I just may come back to bite him....as it should. And thanks MC1..........Great job yet again!!! |
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I have absolutely NO problem paying the extra sales tax to fund Metroplex -- it is money well spent.
Because you're in Rotterdam, your property and school tax base hasn't been crippled by the millions of dollars needed to support these Downtown businesses. Also, the PILOTS are receiving taxpayer money to PAY their PILOT agreements?!?! How's the smell over there in Rotterdam, it really stinks here. |
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I have absolutely NO problem paying the extra sales tax to fund Metroplex -- it is money well spent. They have done an awesome job under Ray Gillen and the Democratic majority on the County Leg.
DVR understands the importance of high taxes-lol. Well Spent? Millions flushed on greedy nonprofits and connected millionaires that refuse to get any skin in the game. If the REPS did it you would be calling for indictments. But since you have DEM partisan blinders on "All is well". You really need to talk to some Downtown merchants before continuing to make a complete idiot out of yourself. |
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Because you're in Rotterdam, your property and school tax base hasn't been crippled by the millions of dollars needed to support these Downtown businesses. Also, the PILOTS are receiving taxpayer money to PAY their PILOT agreements?!?!
How's the smell over there in Rotterdam, it really stinks here.
He doesn't pay property and school taxes - he doesn't own the property he's living in. Look up "Bates Motel" on the tax records. |
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