Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Actually, Governor Cuomo said that no new taxes means no increase in existing taxes or fees, too.

outside of a cap.....it's just a ploy....they will push a cap then call that moving ahead......start trimming and let's see the fat fall to the
floor first....then we will weigh you.....

Quoted from senders

outside of a cap.....it's just a ploy....they will push a cap then call that moving ahead......start trimming and let's see the fat fall to the
floor first....then we will weigh you.....

If they set the cap at 2% - as proposed - that would cause many counties, municipalities, school districts
and other taxing districts to have to trim their budgets and, in many cases, consider sharing services with
neighboring government entities or outright consolidating with neighboring government entities.

Quite frankly, I would put the cap at 0% for the first 3 years --- to really force the issue and bring
government spending under control.

I would like to see the Governor and State Legislature eliminate property tax as the major funding source
for public education.    My proposal would have basic state mandated education funded through
the state income tax --- and it would simplify the state aid formula ... the Governor and Legislature would set
an amount to be spent per elementary student (A), per middle school student (B) and per high school
student (B)   ..... each district's state aid formula would then be    ( A x # of elementary students) + (B x # of
middle school students) + (C x # of high school students).  

Local school districts could levy a property tax for sports, extracurricular activities  and any additional programs not mandated by the state.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

If they set the cap at 2% - as proposed - that would cause many counties, municipalities, school districts and other taxing districts to have to trim their budgets and, in many cases, consider sharing services with neighboring government entities or outright consolidating with neighboring government entities.

No it won't. Look at Schenectady. They add curb fees, trash fees, inflate assessments to bogus levels and the school board inflates a contingency budget scaring voters. Schenectady had all the tools to cut the budget (eliminate cell phones, City vehicles, golf pro salaries, overtime padding) and what happens? The Mayor does a secret deal with firefighters and adds another 8-12% in taxes for the homeowners?! The Cities have no idea how to save money, bring in businesses or even BALANCE a budget.

Consolidating municipalities? Honestly I don't want the Democrats to run the entire County. They do it now and they are failing.

Quoted from rachel72

No it won't. Look at Schenectady. They add curb fees, trash fees, inflate assessments to bogus levels and the school board inflates a contingency budget scaring voters. Schenectady had all the tools to cut the budget (eliminate cell phones, City vehicles, golf pro salaries, overtime padding) and what happens? The Mayor does a secret deal with firefighters and adds another 8-12% in taxes for the homeowners?! The Cities have no idea how to save money, bring in businesses or even BALANCE a budget.

Consolidating municipalities? Honestly I don't want the Democrats to run the entire County. They do it now and they are failing.

Which party is elected to run the consolidated municipalities is up to the voters.    

The inescapable fact is that New York State's municipal boundaries are almost entirely 19th century creations and no longer are sustainable.      We need to move the state into the 21st century.    

You can't sail forward towards the horizon until you raise the anchor.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

I would like to see the Governor and State Legislature eliminate property tax as the major funding source
for public education.    My proposal would have basic state mandated education funded through
the state income tax --- and it would simplify the state aid formula ... the Governor and Legislature would set
an amount to be spent per elementary student (A), per middle school student (B) and per high school
student (B)   ..... each district's state aid formula would then be    ( A x # of elementary students) + (B x # of
middle school students) + (C x # of high school students).  

Local school districts could levy a property tax for sports, extracurricular activities  and any additional programs not mandated by the state.

are you kidding?...no one pays income tax in Schenectady....everyone that has 1 or more kids and makes $7-$15hour gets PAID..at the
end of the year.....they dont pay income tax....hell...get rid of public schools and everyone can go private including those who
the government hands $$ back to at the end of the year....I work with folks that have kids, dont own a home, and get $4000-$8000
back after filing....not to mention the services they get all year....

WHERE THE fu(k AM I GOING WRONG HERE? I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.....and the equalizing government is
doing what?....handing out more fish from MY pocket....GET OFF MY BACK

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Which party is elected to run the consolidated municipalities is up to the voters.    

The inescapable fact is that New York State's municipal boundaries are almost entirely 19th century creations and no longer are sustainable.      We need to move the state into the 21st century.    

You can't sail forward towards the horizon until you raise the anchor.

first of all the anchor is at DSS in Schenectady...I dont see anyone ready to drop it to the bottom of the ocean....that would mean
vote loss...

Quoted from senders

are you kidding?...no one pays income tax in Schenectady....everyone that has 1 or more kids and makes $7-$15hour gets PAID..at the
end of the year.....they dont pay income tax....hell...get rid of public schools and everyone can go private including those who
the government hands $$ back to at the end of the year....I work with folks that have kids, dont own a home, and get $4000-$8000
back after filing....not to mention the services they get all year....

WHERE THE fu(k AM I GOING WRONG HERE? I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.....and the equalizing government is
doing what?....handing out more fish from MY pocket....GET OFF MY BACK

Well, the state is not about to get rid of public schools .. it is one of the services mandated in the state
constitution.  
Financing schools through the property tax is archaic -- if it wwre financed through the state income tax the
cost would be shared among all income tax payers across the state -- and that way ALL schools would get
the same funding per pupil.     That means that kids in poorer communities would get the same education
as kids from rich communities.    And EVERYONES'  property tax bill would be cut in HALF or more .. depending on
where you live.

Just look at the money NYS has thrown at education and then look at the results. The Dems use the same method for everything throw more money at the problem and hope it goes away.       Of All States, New York’s Schools Spend Most Money Per PupilBy CATHERINE RAMPELL

New York State’s public schools spent $15,981 a pupil in 2007. That’s more than any other state or state equivalent, according to data released today by the Census Bureau.

On average, each American state spent $9,666 a pupil in 2007, a 5.8 percent increase over 2006, the report said.

After New York, the areas that spent the most per pupil were New Jersey ($15,691) and the District of Columbia ($14,324). States spending the least per pupil were Utah ($5,683), Idaho ($6,625) and Tennessee ($7,113).

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Well, the state is not about to get rid of public schools .. it is one of the services mandated in the state
constitution.  
Financing schools through the property tax is archaic -- if it wwre financed through the state income tax the
cost would be shared among all income tax payers across the state -- and that way ALL schools would get
the same funding per pupil.     That means that kids in poorer communities would get the same education
as kids from rich communities.    And EVERYONES'  property tax bill would be cut in HALF or more .. depending on
where you live.

it was tongue in cheek about ridding the public schools.....do they need an enema?---YOU BETCHA....How does income tax make
it equal?????????? riddle me that batman

NYS just added $600,000 in State Police raises for the highest brass. Some are making more than Gov Cuomo. Cuomo's top aides are making over $170,000. DeeDee and the fired Grandis have landed on their feets.

     So far this administration talks a good game but nothing has changed. Let's see how they deal with the two elephants in the room- Education overspending and Medicare overspending.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

A) I am not going to argue with a hate-filled person who claims to be Catholic but is constantly bashing the Church.

Particularly, around the 5:35 mark

Quoted from 147

Particularly, around the 5:35 mark

Just because it is on youtube - doesn't make it true ...  you should take half the energy you use tearing
down the Church or Schenectady and use it to actually DO something to BUILD UP either or both of them

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Just because it is on youtube - doesn't make it true ...  you should take half the energy you use tearing
down the Church or Schenectady and use it to actually DO something to BUILD UP either or both of them

you cant build without straw......and the DEMS are not Moses.....

Quoted from senders

you cant build without straw......and the DEMS are not Moses.....

No --- we Democrats learned from the Three Little Pigs that it is better to build with bricks rather than straw.