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DVOR is in favor of government holding the basket of fish for handout, in return for votes and then maybe an increase in fish heads for your
dinner table.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Actually - since he-she offers no real value --- cut his-her salary by 100%.


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Actually - since he-she offers no real value --- cut his-her salary by 100%.


NO real value?   Oh, so publicizing the fact that all the new plexy downtown businesses are totally 100% (or more) tax exempt, with no end in site, and informing the taxpayers that they are making up the difference through higher taxes .... you claim that is "no real value."



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I have seen garden slugs that provide more value to the planet than you do.


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With the state facing a $12 billion deficit, I would hope that any reasonable and sound idea would be on
the table for discussion.    
My guess is that it would be easier to get the unions to agree to a wage freeze than to agree to privatizing
state jobs --- and getting them to agree to a wage freeze won't be easy.



But you like the fact that auntie is making big bucks, well more in pension than many state workers make!   How about she take some cuts too.  Those teacher pensions are going to bankrupt the municiplaities, or didn't you read the facts


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With the state facing a $12 billion deficit, I would hope that any reasonable and sound idea would be on
the table for discussion.    
My guess is that it would be easier to get the unions to agree to a wage freeze than to agree to privatizing
state jobs --- and getting them to agree to a wage freeze won't be easy.


With the city facing major deficit how about cutting out the tax exemptions to the millionaires in downtown???????    


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It's NOT the wages.....it's the pile up of government guaranteed pensions/healthcare.....duh.......and sure 'No new taxes' just means the same ones
get to increase,and they will just stop taxing anything NEW that moves or breathes.......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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If the unions won't accept wage freezes, or in some cases give backs and a town/city/state are forced into bankruptcy all union contracts will become null and void.
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We need to stop 'paying it forward' or actually 'raping forward'......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Sandra Lee is still looking good as New York's First Lady ... and Andrew is doing well, too.




Ah, a cafeteria catholic


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Ah, a cafeteria catholic


You are such a moron.


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You are such a moron.



Well, did Cuomo get an annulment? Care to answer that one?


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Andrew Cuomo's marital status is really his personal business.  The same goes for his relationship to the Church and the Sacraments.   If he chooses to ask me my advice on the matter, then I will ask questions and
give him advice.   Unfortunately for the busybodies on this website, I  NEVER divulge the conversations that
I have with others about their personal life -- and especially how it applies to their relationship with the Church
and the Sacraments.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
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Andrew Cuomo's marital status is really his personal business.  The same goes for his relationship to the Church and the Sacraments.   If he chooses to ask me my advice on the matter, then I will ask questions and
give him advice.   Unfortunately for the busybodies on this website, I  NEVER divulge the conversations that
I have with others about their personal life -- and especially how it applies to their relationship with the Church
and the Sacraments.



When Mr Coumo presents himself for Holy Communion, it's no longer his "personal business" - it's the business of the Church, and of the faithful.

Your "advice" matters not.




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Catechism of the Catholic Church

1650: Today there are numerous Catholics in many countries who have recourse to civil divorce and contract new civil unions. In fidelity to the words of Jesus Christ - "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another, commits adultery against her; and if she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery" the Church maintains that a new union cannot be recognized as valid, if the first marriage was. If the divorced are remarried civilly, they find themselves in a situation that objectively contravenes God's law. Consequently, they cannot receive Eucharistic communion as long as this situation persists. For the same reason, they cannot exercise certain ecclesial responsibilities. Reconciliation through the sacrament of Penance can be granted only to those who have repented for having violated the sign of the covenant and of fidelity to Christ, and who are committed to living in complete continence.




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Cardinal Ratzinger Orders Kerry Communion Ban

    Phil Brennan, NewsMax.com
    Wednesday, July 7, 2004

In a private memorandum, top Vatican prelate Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger told American bishops that Communion must be denied to Catholic politicians who support legal abortion.

While never mentioning Sen. John Kerry by name, the memo implicitly aims at the pro-choice Catholic Massachusetts senator and presidential candidate.

Ratzinger's ban is broad and includes all other pro-abortion Catholic politicians who are defying the church's ban on abortion.

According the Culture of Life Foundation, which obtained a copy of the confidential document, the Cardinal began by stressing the serious nature of receiving Communion and the need for each person to make “a conscious decision” regarding their worthiness based on “the Church’s objective criteria.”

But the Cardinal adds that it is not only the responsibility of the pro-abortion politicians such as Kerry to make a judgment about their worthiness to receive Communion.

It is also up to those distributing Communion to deny the sacrament to those in conflict with the Church's prohibition of abortion and the duty of office holders to oppose the procedure.

“Apart from an individual’s judgment about his worthiness to present himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, the minister of Holy Communion may find himself in the situation where he must refuse to distribute Holy Communion to someone, such as in cases of a declared excommunication, a declared interdict, or an obstinate persistence in manifest grave sin.”

If a politician such as Kerry “still presents himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, the minister of Holy Communion must refuse to distribute it, ” Cardinal Ratzinger wrote.

He added that such as denial does not mean that the minister of Communion is judging the politician’s soul but is a reflection that he is in a state of obstinate persistence in manifest grave sin.

“Nor is the minister of Holy Communion passing judgment on the person’s subjective guilt, but rather is reacting to the person’s public unworthiness to receive Holy Communion due to an objective situation of sin.”



The Church hasn't changed their position. It's a sin for him to receive communion.
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MT, you do NOT know the state of the Governor's soul.   Are you his confessor?   We - as individual
lay persons do NOT have the power to decide who is and who is not in a state of sin.  It is not YOUR place
to decide who can and who can not receive Holy Communion.  Unless of course, you are deluded enough to believe that you are the Pope or a bishop.

It is not up to me to judge Mr. Cuomo's personal life.  And I will not do so.




George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

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