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like in -- you partly spelled statistician correctly   ?????

if you partly spell a word correctly  -- it is still spelled incorrectly


Well,,,if you or I were a reporter writing an article about my spelling error, I wouldn’t write that I partly spelled a word incorrectly.  I would say I wholly spelled a word incorrectly.  

Unless of course you mean that even though I spelled this word incorrectly, since I post less words per post compared to other forum members, my spelling mistake is an anomaly because the number of words I post.  So this really isn't a spelling error at all, just an anomaly, relatively speaking.

If I write 1000 words and make 99 spelling errors and you write 10,000 words and make 1000 spelling errors - who is better at spelling?

Shouldn't it be the same about this so-called anomaly?  It either is or isn't.  One thing we both can agree on, it can't be partly.  The fact Kathleen put "partly,” tells me it's not an anomaly at all.  It's a statistical fact.  Schenectady is crime ridden proportionately at a greater rate than the Bronx.  


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Just wondering... is it an actual fact that Albany is number 4, or is that another anomaly?

...and at the same time, if it's only a partial anomoly, then that means there's a whole bunch of truth behind it, but why let the facts get in the way of a renaissance?


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Just wondering... is it an actual fact that Albany is number 4, or is that another anomaly?


Anomalies only happen in Schenectady.  Even though MOST counties in NY are smaller than the Bronx, Schenectady is the ONLY anomaly.


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More statistical anomalies.  Every comparison to Bronx County must be an anomaly since there aren't many counties that come close to 1.4MILLION!

Bronx County =1,391,903
Albany County = 298,130
Rensselaer County=155,261
Schenectady County=151,427
Saratoga County = 217,191
Erie County(Buffalo) = 909,845
Onondaga County(Syracuse) = 458,336


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The other problem with the study is that the numbers cited are "residents who are in prison" ----
therefore we don't know whether the crimes that they committed were IN the same county that the person
resided in.  It could be -- that some Schenectady residents  took the bus to the Bronx and committed crimes down there.

Also -- the "in prison" part implies that they were arrested, successfully prosecuted and then sentenced to
do prison time.     Thus -  the study does not indicate how many crimes remained unsolved  ... nor how
many persons arrested were not convicted .. nor how many persons arrested were convicted but not sentenced
to do prison time.

Finally- the study does not take into consideration how many crimes one individual may have committed to
end up in prison.   A resident from the Bronx could have committed 100 crimes and a resident from
Schenectady  1 crime -- and both count equally as one person in prison.


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Only DV is brainwashed enough to spin this as "good news."


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Quoted from GrahamBonnet
Only DV is brainwashed enough to spin this as "good news."


Never said it was good news -- said that the study is flawed and thus the conclusion is wrong.


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Also -- the "in prison" part implies that they were arrested, successfully prosecuted and then sentenced to
do prison time.     Thus -  the study does not indicate how many crimes remained unsolved  ... nor how
many persons arrested were not convicted .. nor how many persons arrested were convicted but not sentenced
to do prison time.



So, if you take this into consideration also, with all the shootings that have not been solved downtown, both on the Metroplex mile and throughout the rest of the city, the numbers would actually push Schenectady even farther into the lead.  Maybe that's the anomoly.  They're ONLY counting the people that were caught, not actually the ones that perpetrated the crimes.  I wonder what these numbers would look like if they included unsolved crimes.  I don't think anybody down in the city or at the county level would like to see these numbers, or have them become public.


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The other problem with the study is that the numbers cited are "residents who are in prison" ----
therefore we don't know whether the crimes that they committed were IN the same county that the person
resided in.  It could be -- that some Schenectady residents  took the bus to the Bronx and committed crimes down there.

Also -- the "in prison" part implies that they were arrested, successfully prosecuted and then sentenced to
do prison time.     Thus -  the study does not indicate how many crimes remained unsolved  ... nor how
many persons arrested were not convicted .. nor how many persons arrested were convicted but not sentenced
to do prison time.

Finally- the study does not take into consideration how many crimes one individual may have committed to
end up in prison.   A resident from the Bronx could have committed 100 crimes and a resident from
Schenectady  1 crime -- and both count equally as one person in prison.



But doesn't EVERY COUNTY deal with the same statistical anomalies?  Wasn't there just a crime in Albany committed by a Bronx resident?  

The problem isn't with the study - it's with you.  You don't like the results.  Reality sucks doesn't it.


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Quoted from GrahamBonnet
Only DV is brainwashed enough to spin this as "good news."


We're Number One! We're Number One! No not just in national taxes per capita, school taxes with no results, new welfare cases and unemployment, now under the enlightened "leadership" of the DEM working together crew---we have the highest percentage of inmates per capita in the State. More taxes, more criminals and no jobs. The problem is not that we have too many criminals-it's that the population is too low? Huh?

     Release the lead balloons. And more evidence that DVR is whistling Dixie; "We're dealing with lots and lots of violent crime" stated DA Carney. Expect our lead in this to grow in coming years.
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But doesn't EVERY COUNTY deal with the same statistical anomalies?  Wasn't there just a crime in Albany committed by a Bronx resident?  

The problem isn't with the study - it's with you.  You don't like the results.  Reality sucks doesn't it.


The FACT is that there are problems with the study.   I have lucidly and logically laid out the problems.
The problems prove that the study is faulty and that the conclusion (saying that Schenectady is the county
with the most crimes is unproven).

The reality is that YOU and your ilk do not understand Statistics and -- what is more true - that you and
your ilk would disagree with me if I said that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.   You don't think
-- you just oppose anything that I post or any one you don't like posts.


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We're Number One! We're Number One! No not just in national taxes per capita, school taxes with no results, new welfare cases and unemployment, now under the enlightened "leadership" of the DEM working together crew---we have the highest percentage of inmates per capita in the State. More taxes, more criminals and no jobs. The problem is not that we have too many criminals-it's that the population is too low? Huh?

     Release the lead balloons. And more evidence that DVR is whistling Dixie; "We're dealing with lots and lots of violent crime" stated DA Carney. Expect our lead in this to grow in coming years.


Ya wanna know how bad things are in the city? I was just talking to someone today who called to inquire about section 8......there is a FIVE YEAR waiting period!!!!!! The guy was told that there are 15,000 people on the list!! So where and how are these 15K people surviving now?

And people wonder why the 'bad element' is oozing into the surrounding towns. The city is busting at the seams with crime, high taxes, slum lords, deteriorating buildings, drug dealers, prostitutes and a failing school district.

Ya don't need trumped up stats from a cheerleading newspaper to prove otherwise. Listen.....there is NO LEADERSHIP in the city. People have to start being their own leaders and take their city back. And the towns people better get involved with city government as well........cause it's coming to a town near YOU!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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Carnival Bob has some nerve making such comments...he is the biggest reason for these rising crime rates, IMO...too many watered down plea deals
and too much leniency...while he brags about his "100% conviction rate"...gimme a break...typical liberal.


ahhh Bob's rhetoric just got a hole punched into it....


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Obama will be here Tuesday and he will fix the whole thing....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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If you never catch anyone after the crimes are committed you don't have to worry about convicting them.
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