It ain't funny no more. I don't care how many mouthpieces the DEMS bring in there is no way to make an illegal contract to ripoff State taxpayers "a positive thing". The AG must start an investigation before he moves into the big chair.

     The pathetic City Council never has spoken a discouraging word. Still working together boys and girls? Pathetic. Weak as water. Head for the life boats.

Quoted from GrahamBonnet

I think you just verbally incinerated him.

It was a slow incineration, but I think she did!

Since MC has not taken a public position opposing the NAZI genocide of over 12 million people of various
ethnic groups nor of the Turkish genocide of millions of Armenians nor the Chi-Coms genocide of millions
of its own citizens ... MC must support the use of genocide by totalitarian dictatorships - which he/she must
also support since hes/she hasn't publicly opposed them either.

And MC wants to make another run at town board -- how pathetic -- Rotterdam would never elect a person
who supports totalitarian dictatorships and the use of genocide.

The City attorney has been out since June receiving full pay, Mayor SOS hired a new employee for Finance who just graduated and already got a huge raise, made an apparent illegal contract and got caught red handed, got an increase in his travel fund, the proposed 2011 budget does balance and seeks to screw the County and School District, his appointment to Planning Commission was convicted of several felonies. Take the alley fight elsewhere. We have enough real City issues to marinate here.

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City Council’s Own Creative Pension Padding
Pat Zollinger
October 12, 2010

This is the statement I made to the Schenectady City Council during Privilege of the Floor on October 12, 2010.

With the new state law requiring elected and appointed officials to submit valid work record estimates, came a surprising submission by this city council to the State Comptroller’s Office for our city council members.

Mr. Della Sala sponsored this resolution, number 2010-112 and Mr. Erikson seconded it. It was adopted unanimously by all council members on June 28, 2010 and it was approved by the mayor two days later.

By law the council had to post it on its website and submit an affidavit to that effect. And apparently the council doesn’t have to post its meeting minutes anymore because they were all taken down.

Part of this resolution reads as follows: The City Council hereby establishes the following as standard work days for elected and appointed officials and will report the following days worked to the New York State and Local Employees’ Retirement System …

Council Member, the standard work day is SEVEN (7) HOURS and the number of days worked per month is 15.10. FIFTEEN FULL TIME DAYS PER MONTH! That’s three full time weeks a month!

What happened to the four meetings this council took off in the summer? What happened to this council short changing the taxpayers last December? Whatever happened to those 200 “worst houses in the city” that each member of this council was supposed to look at?

In addition the COUNCIL PRESIDENT takes FIVE POINT SIX more days per month making Mr. McCarthy’s job equivalent to TWENTY POINT SEVEN – seven hour days each and every month. Twenty days per month is FOUR WEEKS. That’s Full Time Employment.

My, my, where does Mr. McCarthy find time to go to his REAL job? He is supposed to be as an INVESTIGATOR for the District Attorney’s Office and he’s paid very close to a HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS a year!

This is called CREATIVE PENSION PADDING. Our cops do it, sewer supervisors do it and this city council does it too. This city council added THREE WEEKS worth of employment for each and every member to the RETIREMENT SYSTEM, for each and every month and there’s no way that any of you put that time into this part-time elected position.

That’s more than creative pension padding, that’s criminal. This council is stealing from the taxpayers of this city.

At a time where Schenectady Taxpayers have to pay these pension plans, I think it’s despicable that this city council has taken such measures to stick it to us even more. Taxpayers are sick to death of being robbed by our own representatives.

Your work hours schedule was requested by FOIL a month ago and it seems to have been forgotten. It will be my pleasure to expose the lies and the cheating that appear to be coming from this very city council, all at taxpayer expense.

http://patzollinger.us/2010/10/12/city-councils-own-creative-pension-padding/

hm

none of the roterdam city council members get pensions right ? ? ?

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Since MC has not taken a public position opposing the NAZI genocide of over 12 million people of various
ethnic groups nor of the Turkish genocide of millions of Armenians nor the Chi-Coms genocide of millions
of its own citizens ... MC must support the use of genocide by totalitarian dictatorships - which he/she must
also support since hes/she hasn't publicly opposed them either.

And MC wants to make another run at town board -- how pathetic -- Rotterdam would never elect a person
who supports totalitarian dictatorships and the use of genocide.

I KNEW IT !!!!    I KNEW IT !!!!!     Not sure if I specifically wrote on this thread that DV would not answer the question, but rather making a comment changing the subject.

DV can NEVER answer a direct question.   We have 9 pages of messages on the pension padding of Schenectady's fire chief.  An NOWHERE does he state his position.

WHY does DV even post on this topic if he refuses to either state opposition or support????

What's worse,. is his response is so far away from a Schenectady issue that his bringing it up shows how hen-pecked he his by the dem political cronies.  

BY the way, I don't know what you're saying about "another run" because I've never run for any office, not even in a PTA.

So DV, since the topic of this board is the pension padding of Schenectady's fire chief, can you answer (or can you provide a reason why you avoid any answer and instead post something not even the  remotest relationship to the story?

The mayor is proposing HUGE cuts to to the fire dept while at the same time attempted to pad the pension of the fire chief by illegally giving him overtime.  DO YOU SUPPORT THE MAYOR IN THIS ACTION?

Go to a world issues thread, DV and post information---with supportive facts from official sources as opposed to tabloid websites---with respect to your question.  That is a topic for a world issues board, NOT a Schenectady county board

Anyone notice that DV refuses to respond on this issue and also, Susie Savage is totally silent on the issue as well.  I know it's not a county issue exactly because it's a city fire dept, but the county addresses state laws and this is a state law.

Quoted from mikechristine1

I KNEW IT !!!!    I KNEW IT !!!!!     Not sure if I specifically wrote on this thread that DV would not answer the question, but rather making a comment changing the subject.

DV can NEVER answer a direct question.   We have 9 pages of messages on the pension padding of Schenectady's fire chief.  An NOWHERE does he state his position.

WHY does DV even post on this topic if he refuses to either state opposition or support????

What's worse,. is his response is so far away from a Schenectady issue that his bringing it up shows how hen-pecked he his by the dem political cronies.  

BY the way, I don't know what you're saying about "another run" because I've never run for any office, not even in a PTA.

So DV, since the topic of this board is the pension padding of Schenectady's fire chief, can you answer (or can you provide a reason why you avoid any answer and instead post something not even the  remotest relationship to the story?

The mayor is proposing HUGE cuts to to the fire dept while at the same time attempted to pad the pension of the fire chief by illegally giving him overtime.  DO YOU SUPPORT THE MAYOR IN THIS ACTION?

Go to a world issues thread, DV and post information---with supportive facts from official sources as opposed to tabloid websites---with respect to your question.  That is a topic for a world issues board, NOT a Schenectady county board

Anyone notice that DV refuses to respond on this issue and also, Susie Savage is totally silent on the issue as well.  I know it's not a county issue exactly because it's a city fire dept, but the county addresses state laws and this is a state law.

I knew it .. you are a mindless idiot.    You make up false accusations about others and keep foaming at
the mouth.    Get a rabies shot.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

I knew it .. you are a mindless idiot.    You make up false accusations about others and keep foaming at
the mouth.    Get a rabies shot.

What false accusations?   YOU said you have not stated your position on the illegal pension padding.   SInce you post on the thread on the topic of the illegal pension padding of the city fire chief at a time when the mayor wants to layoff many firefighters, why don't you post your position on the issue?     Why is it so difficult to state that you oppose the padding of a pension of an employee who by law may NOT get paid OT or do say that you support giving the chief a pension much greater than his base salary---all at great expense to the financially struggling homewoners.

WHY do you not state your position.  Favor or oppose?    

You take time to post, but refuse to state your position

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

As for your threat about "being careful" .. I will be calling the Schenectady Police Chief in the morning to
have him look into your threat.

Gee, we haven't seen any arrests of Pat Z.   What happened, did Chaires drop the phone, and fall on the floor from laughter after you called him?  

Let's see DV say thtat the "threat" is "being looked into" by the SPD.  

I really will need to put a note on a calendar to ask in a year what ever became of the so called threat.  

Quoted from mikechristine1

What false accusations?   YOU said you have not stated your position on the illegal pension padding.   SInce you post on the thread on the topic of the illegal pension padding of the city fire chief at a time when the mayor wants to layoff many firefighters, why don't you post your position on the issue?     Why is it so difficult to state that you oppose the padding of a pension of an employee who by law may NOT get paid OT or do say that you support giving the chief a pension much greater than his base salary---all at great expense to the financially struggling homewoners.

WHY do you not state your position.  Favor or oppose?    

You take time to post, but refuse to state your position

If you want to fight ---  bend over , stick yourhead up your a** and fight for air   -- i am through responding
to you

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State should investigate Sch’dy pension abuses

Re Nov. 25 article, “State: Chief’s pension plan was right”: If there had been a mousetrap in the cookie jar, Mayor Stratton would have a huge bandage on his hand.
How is it that an “educated and seasoned” mayor could not have known that adding onto a firefighter’s earnings in his/her final years of employment would boost his pension payments for the rest of his life?
Ask any ordinary citizen on the street if they know this — guess what the answer would be. This is incredible! What happened to his criticism of overtime payments to city police officers? An investigation and public hearing into this matter is warranted by a state agency with subpoena powers.
The city administration wanted public hearings into the conduct of police officers; now the shoe is on the other foot. Since when is it proper to make a gift of public funds?

Frank Longo
Rotterdam

http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2010/dec/01/1201_print/

As for PatZ's threats .. the matter was turned over to the state police .. who will be monitoring the matter.

Here's what the "man on the street is saying"-RESIGN NOW! Only editorial writers and DEM committeemen are confused. Stop looking the other way. When caught with his hand in cookie jar Mayor SOS tapped danced around his actions and then tried to throw other DEMS under the bus. No one else authorized this.

     Great letter from Mr Longo that indicates that dozens of letters are flooding into the papers. This cannot be put on a back burner until after Christmas. The Attorney General and State Comptroller's Fraud Unit must now investigate this.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

As for PatZ's threats .. the matter was turned over to the state police .. who will be monitoring the matter.

Whats the matter, don't you trust the local police?