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Box A Rox
September 28, 2010, 10:31am Report to Moderator

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If you want to know about God, you might want to talk to an atheist.

LA Times:
http://www.latimes.com/sns-religion-survey,0,2334966.story


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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September 28, 2010, 12:23pm Report to Moderator
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This is old news boxy.

The media already reported this story a week ago!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Well Bumble... The LA Times is part of the "media" and it reported the story today...  Tuesday, Sep. 28, 2010


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Stalin, Mao and Hitler probably knew more that the average guy about religion too, being good, peaceful atheists.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Quoted from GrahamBonnet
Stalin, Mao and Hitler probably knew more that the average guy about religion too, being good, peaceful atheists.


The nazis were not atheists, they were predominantly Catholics, and Lutherans, which is is big part of why, despite my 12 years, and then some of Catholic school, I gave up Catholicism for lent.


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Your ignorance of actual history is so profound that all I can ask is that you look into the facts. Usually when someone wants to go there with me face to face on the history of totalitarianism in the last century including National Socialism but not limited to it, a visit to my well-read library is enough to let them know they stepped in the wrong sh[tpile. You just did, though your hate of God is apparently enough to close your mind eternally as far as I can tell

There was this Nazi named Bormann (you may have heard of him)who said "When we [National Socialists] speak of belief in God, we do not mean, like the naive Christians and their spiritual exploiters, a man-like being sitting around somewhere in the universe. The force governed by natural law by which all these countless planets move in the universe, we call omnipotence or God. The assertion that this universal force can trouble itself about the destiny of each individual being, every smallest earthly bacillus, can be influenced by so-called prayers or other surprising things, depends upon a requisite dose of naivety or else upon shameless professional self-interest.

Look up a obscure German term: Religionsbekenntnisse. Read a report on Hitler's 'religion.' on your favorite page: Wikipedia ---   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_beliefs

Understand Rosenberg's 30 point plan regarding the Church.

And then when you are so sure even after learning some history that the Catholic faith was practiced by these fiends you can always consult the 2500 Catholic priests who were in the special cells in Dachau, or find out about Father Kolbe or Saint Edith Stein.

Boiling down history to the lowest common denominator does not make for truth. Nazis and the National Socialist movement were in no way about Christianity, Catholicism or even the existence of anything higher than a pagan notion tied to the indigenous concept of Volk.

I suggest you get educated. Having been baptised a Christian does not make one a Christian, especially when as a young man one renounced their faith (Kirchenaustritt.) All Schutzstaffel men, whether Waffen, Allgemeine, Tottenkopf or what not renounced faith in their church of birth upon entry. Period. Gives you a little bit of framework by which the heart of National Socialism operated. Make no mistake the SS was the heart of the Nazi order.

I, being not a real card carrying Catholic myself, being greatly suspicious of organized religion, am quick to defend the truth, because all too often the truth is run roughshod over by current day liberalism in an attempt to invoke relativism, which I firmly disagree with.


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Nazi's used religion and it's ability to cover-over one's own mind and deluding a person if that person allows it.......they exploited it to the max and then renamed it their form of 'nationalism'.....and this
is why the US government has to keep ANY religion at arms length and keep the coals cool......NO RELIGION IS MORE EQUAL THAN ANOTHER.......

the failure of religion is in it's leaders and those who refuse to learn and learn that they are rational humans......looking for God is what religion IS.....the rest is just doctrine.....JMHO


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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