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Non-Muslim Overstayer Arrested in Makkah
Zainy Abbas, Arab News
  
MAKKAH, 21 May 2007 — A Sri Lankan Christian was arrested in the holy city of Makkah, which is off-limits to non-Muslims, by the Expatriates Monitoring Committee in Makkah.

The authorities were able to verify the identity of the man, who had claimed he had overstayed his Umrah visa, by running his details through a new fingerprints system.

Nirosh Kamanda had arrived in Dammam to work as a lorry driver and had fled his sponsor to sell goods besides the Grand Mosque in Makkah. The man’s sponsor denied he knew where the man was working.

He said, “He fled six months after coming to the Kingdom. I have no idea how he reached Makkah.”

After his identity became known, the man admitted he was Christian and that he had come to Makkah to earn money. “I heard that Makkah is a safe place, where I could hide my identity,” he said.

Col. Suhail Matrafi, head of the department in charge of Expatriates Affairs in Makkah, compiled a report about the case and presented it to Col. Ayid ibn Taghalib Al-Lukmani, the head of Makkah’s Passport Department. Al-Lukmani has ordered the man be sent to Jeddah.

“The Grand Mosque and the holy city are forbidden to non-Muslims,” said Matrafi. “The new fingerprints system is very helpful and will help us a lot to discover the identity of a lot of criminals and overstayers,” he added.




http://archive.arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=96432&d=21&m=5&y=2007


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Muslims say total ban on non-Muslims in Mecca violates human rights and religious freedom -- no, wait...



Actually, they are just fine with the ban on non-Muslims in Mecca. That's not any infringement on human rights. Human rights are only infringed when Muslims are asked to conform to the mores of the non-Muslim lands to which they have come. "Muslims say the total veil ban violates human rights and religious freedom," from Asia News, July 14 (thanks to C. Cantoni):

Beirut (AsiaNews) - The French law banning the veil covering the face (burqa and niqab) could give rise to a new wave of Islamophobia and state racism. This is the harsh condemnation of the President of the 'Islamic Human Rights Commission (IHRC), Masood Shadjareh, to the initial approval by the French parliament of a law that requires women to have their faces uncovered in all public places.
Shadjareh's reaction, in an interview with official Iranian agency IRNA, is the harshest yet from the Muslim world that criticizes the violation of religious freedom and respect for Islamic culture, but above all which seems to be waiting for the Constitutional Court or European institutions to condemn these violations, although there are those who evoke the memory of Nazi persecution....


Of course. But never mind that the real neo-Nazis are all on the side of the jihad


http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010.....iolates-human-rights-and-religious-freedom----no-wait.html


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Didn't realize you wanted to go there.  I might add that in the Hindu temple there are holy spaces you are not allowed and in the Greek Orthodox Church you are not allowed in certain areas--  So what's you point?
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Didn't realize you wanted to go there.  I might add that in the Hindu temple there are holy spaces you are not allowed and in the Greek Orthodox Church you are not allowed in certain areas--  So what's you point?


Well first, the civilized world isn't dealing with radical Greek Orthodox and Hindu's strapping bombs to themselves and murdering in the name of their god.  Second...Neither of these faiths have a "Holy Leader" in NYC appealing to 68% of Americans on Larry King, for a Mosque to be built in the name of religious tolerance, when the HOLIEST Muslim site(Mecca)is outright hostile toward non-Muslims.  Talk about bigoted.  If he want to teach tolerance, he should start by building a interfaith community center in Saudi Arabia.  The Arab world needs a lesson in religious tolerance, NOT America.  



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Maybe you should eat more fiber.  That might take of your "cranky pants."  You are ALWAYS looking for a way to knock Muslims and their countries.  You are a first class bigot.  In fact you are just as extremist as radical extremist Muslims.  Where di you go to the same divinity school as the Gainsville self-ordained minister?  Not all Muslims are terrorists.  All terrorists do not happen to be Muslim.

And btw, you can speak interfaith when you actually practice it.
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Where di you go to the same divinity school as the Gainsville self-ordained minister?


To this point, all you left wing panty waists are condemning a backwoods preacher from Florida for burning the Koran, claiming it will put Americans in harms way.  Are you kidding me?  This preacher with a congregation of 50 in a church the size of an outhouse was propped up by the media, and he is now the whipping boy accused of instigating Muslim terror attacks because of his actions.  Who are the lunatics, the preacher or the Muslim terrorists??? If he were to burn any of the other major religions holy books, would the state department, military general, and white house be condemning the actions?  ABSOLUTELY NOT!  The Muslim fanatics have our own government infringing on our Constitutional freedoms because we fear the reaction of the fanatics in response to this preacher exercising his first ammendment right.

IN THE CIVILIZED WORLD, A RATIONAL RESPONSE TO BURNING A HOLY BOOK ISN'T SETTING OFF BOMBS AND KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD.


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In a civilized rational world.....EVERYONE should stop talking about how God only loves them and helps them win........as for the fingerprinting....
lets hear it for the patriot act/homeland security and realID.....what an F'EN world we are building for the next generation........we are fools.....


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