Box, how do you explain these Muslim terrorist attacks during the Clinton years?  

1993 - The first World Trade Center bombing
1996 - Khobar Towers bombing - Saudi Arabia
1998 - U.S. Embassy bombings Kenya/Tanzania
2000 - USS Cole Bombing - Yemen

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Box, how do you explain these Muslim terrorist attacks during the Clinton years?  

1993 - The first World Trade Center bombing
1996 - Khobar Towers bombing - Saudi Arabia
1998 - U.S. Embassy bombings Kenya/Tanzania
2000 - USS Cole Bombing - Yemen

How do I explain them???

Terrorists attacked US or it's interests.

How would you explain them?

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How do I explain them???

ISLAMIC Terrorists attacked US or it's interests.

There.. I corrected your quote..
You should have also added that these acts where cheered by hundred of thousands of supposed peaceful Muslims in the middle east.

I don't agree with you.  Sorry.  We are not talking about those Muslims are WANT peace and seek it in a way that is conducive to all those also searching for peace.  I WORK with the Muslim community on the road to peace.  They too are afraid of those right-wing terrorist thugs.  You and others on this board lump them altogether.  Burning Quran's jeopardizes EVERYTHING.  Even if you thought the Mosque should be built elsewhere the burning of a Quran, someone's holy book, would not help the situation.

You son NOT being home at this time saddens me.  And be assured of my prayers for a safe return.

Anytime a religious sect is a minority in  a Country, they have no choice but to work with the majority for peace. All I can say is look at the Countries that are majority muslim, and take a look at their policies towards non-muslims..to me, that's where the true colors of Islam are shown.

I'm sorry you don't believe in free speech, as many veterans have died to retain it.
Do I agree with the pastor burning the Quran? No..
Do I agree he has a right to do it? yes
Will I live in fear of what some religious people will do because of it?
NO

55 OF COURSE I BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH.  But I would say no to buring the flag too.  The building of the Mosque is another story.  They do have a right to build what they want on their property.  Big difference than burning Quran.

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They do have a right to build what they want on their property.  Big difference than burning Quran.

I'm assuming the Quran was legally purchased by the church that plans on burning them.  They can do whatever they want with it.  Correct?

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How do I explain them???

Terrorists attacked US or it's interests.

How would you explain them?

Bush wasn't president, and I assume in your mind there was no "islamophobia" during the Clinton year.  So why would Muslim terrorist attack American interests?  Was it Clinton foriegn policy that angered them?

I have to support the right of someone burning the flag just as I support the right of someone burning the Quran (or bible for that matter). As far as the Mosque at ground zero, I have taken the "just because you can, doesn't mean you should" angle. I think it shows incredible insensitivity and PR naivety of the developers to push this.   The right of free speech can be disallowed if the action causes immediate danger because of a RATIONAL response.. for example yelling fire in a crowded theater..the rational response is to exit ASAP and possibly cause injury to someone for no reason if there is no fire.

Wanting to kill someone over the burning of a book is NOT a rational response ...it is mentally unstable or criminal . If I yelled "this movie sucks" in a crowded theater, someone kicking the crap out of me is NOT rational.

For Islam to get a fair shake in this Country, the leaders need to come out strong and hard against extremism in the name of Islam. From what I have seen, they lack the courage or conviction to do it.

Monday, September 17, 2001

Dozens of scholars of Islam issued a statement today, condemning the violent attacks of September 11th.

“We are grief-stricken at these horrifying events,” they wrote; “the murder of innocents can never be justified and must not be tolerated.”
In a lengthy statement, professors from major colleges and universities throughout the country expressed their compassion for grieving family members while also decrying the increase in violence against American Muslims this past week. “Anger and frustration are completely understandable and shared by us all,” they wrote “yet that anger must not be directed at individuals utterly innocent of these terrible crimes.”

In recent days, verbal and physical attacks against Muslims (and people who were thought to be Muslims) have been reported from California to Vermont. Muslims have been warned to stay home or to avoid wearing traditional dress. “Particularly distressing is the fact that many American Muslims have fled to the United States, seeking a haven from intolerant regimes in Kosovo, Afghanistan or Iraq. For them now to face intolerance and violence here is an abuse of our Nation’s most deeply cherished beliefs” they said.

The co-signers of the statement are members of many scholarly societies in the United States and Canada. They include:

Professor Asma Afsaruddin, of Notre Dame University
Professor Vivienne Sm. Angeles, La Salle University
Professor Ghazala Anwar of the University of Canterbury, New Zealand
Professor Jonathan Brockopp, Director of the Religion Program at Bard College
Professor Patrice C. Brodeur of Connecticut College
Professor Arthur Buehler of Louisiana State University
Professor Amila Buturovic of York University
Professor Juan E. Campo of the University of California, Santa Barbara
Professor Vincent J. Cornell of University of Arkansas
Professor Frederick M. Denny Chair of Islamic Studies and the History of Religions, University of Colorado
Professor Abdullahi Gallab of Hiram College
Professor Behrooz Ghamari of Georgia State University
Professor Alan Godlas of University of Georgia
Professor Hugh Talat Halman, of University of Arkansas
Professor Pieternella (Nelly) Harder Vandoorn,, of Valparaiso University
Professor Marcia Hermansen of Loyola University, Chicago
Professor Valerie J. Hoffman, of University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Professor Qamar ul-Huda, of Boston College
Professor Aaron Hughes of the University of Calgary
Professor Amir Hussain of California State University, Northridge
Professor John Iskander of Georgia State Univeristy
Professor Ahmet Karamustafa of Washington University in St. Louis
Professor Tazim Kassam of Syracuse University
Professor Zayn Kassam of Pomona College
Professor Ruqayya Khan of University of California at Santa Barbara
Professor Kathryn Kueny, of Lawrence College
Professor Jane Dammen McAuliffe, Dean of the College, Georgetown University
Professor Richard C. Martin, Emory University
Professor J.W. Morris, Chair of Islamic Studies at the University of Exeter
Professor Gordon D. Newby, Executive Director, Institute for Comparative and International Studies at Emory University
Professor James Pavlin of Rutgers University
Professor Jack Renard of St. Louis University
Professor Omid Safi of Colgate University
Professor Walid Saleh of Middlebury College
Professor Zeki Saritoprak of Berry College
Professor Michael Sells, Haverford College
Professor Laury Silvers-Alario of Holy Cross University
Professor Alfons Teipen of Furman University

Wonderful... for a national catastrophe, almost 10 years ago..
These are scholars, NOT leaders of the faith..WHERE WERE THE LEADERS???
what have you done for me lately? Like after the be-headings of contractors, reporters, etc?
If this is all you got, then the "moderate" Muslims are at worst complacent, or at best, their own worst enemy

It's a typical response from a Conservative Right Winger...
Ask for facts... then you ignore them.. and pout!

Where is YOUR response for the thousands of Iraqis held in Abu Ghraib prison???

Where is YOUR response for torture???

Where is YOUR response for Bush Invading Iraq???

No apology?  No... OOPS!  Sorry My Country Killed a few hundred thousand of your people because of OIL!

Like most Right Wingers... ME ME ME!!!  it's all one way!

FACTS??? that's laughable..you didn't provide sh*t
You gave ONE statement from Muslim scholars, NOT active leaders. A statement that spent more time complaining about attacks on Muslims than condemning 9/11.
YOU got anything else?

as for your questions :

Where is YOUR response for the thousands of Iraqis held in Abu Ghraib prison???
Its war..plain and simple..how many were killed at Abu Ghaib?

Where is YOUR response for torture???
Whatever means necessary to get information..no apologies

Where is YOUR response for Bush Invading Iraq???
Unnecessary..I want to pull the 50,000 troops out now and let the savages exterminate themselves
BTW, I'm a libertarian, you jackass

No apology?  No... OOPS!  Sorry My Country Killed a few hundred thousand of your people because of OIL!

What Oil?.. Please provide facts, not your leftist bullshit about the money that was made from oil as a direct result of this war?

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No where did I oppose the RIGHT to burn the Quran... just as I don't oppose the RIGHT to burn the US flag.  

Actions have consequences... I don't condemn all Muslims by the ACTIONS of a few.
Actions have consequences... I don't condemn all Christians by the ACTIONS of a few.

In both cases the ACTIONS of the few fanatics will result in the death of innocent people.

Agree....however.....it is that personal and NO religion deserves special legislation....IT'S THAT PERSONAL.....folks who tout their
religion is the basis for their government is touting a theocracy.....who wants that crap......
and there is ALWAYS war......there is NO PEACE EVER.....there is nothing new under the sun........

Box is spot on.  You Conservatives always want back up info and then discount it.  55 let me tell you what is going on RIGHT NOW in Afghanistan.  WE have a young friend who is with World Aid Service in Kabul.  They are now moving these people around because of an attack.  The Taliban has increased their attacks on our people TODAY at the sound of a possible book burning.  Black Hawk helicopters were moved today because of what has escalated.  You don't think this maniacal minister who wants to have a book burning day will affect our kids.  
Wrong.  Listen to Patreaus.  Your kid's boss says "don't do it."  And Box has got it right how many innocent Iraqiis were killed for nothing.