Quoted from GrahamBonnet

There is no room for discretion and that is a pile of crap. How many wheelchair bound strippers do you think there are? Fools.

the law was passed to aid disabled people .. not sure where the "wheelchair bound strippers" came into
the debate

Quoted from GrahamBonnet

There is no room for discretion and that is a pile of crap. How many wheelchair bound strippers do you think there are? Fools.

it didn't have anything to with the strippers but those in the penile GOLF club......keep 'em happy and they vote for ya.....the Thatcher Street Pub isn't too far out of reach...

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

George H.W. Bush was quite successful

So successful that he lost reelection!

All presidents combined managed to accumulate $1trillion in debt.
Reagan/Bush managed to accumulate $3Trillion in debt in just 12 years.
Sounds like a success!  

What has Obama accumulated so far?

Lots of "Change"  

VERY high approval for him and his gang of tyrants. REAL high. People LIKE him a lot now that they know him. Right.

Quoted from Box A Rox

So successful that he lost reelection!

All presidents combined managed to accumulate $1trillion in debt.
Reagan/Bush managed to accumulate $3Trillion in debt in just 12 years.
Sounds like a success!  

I happen to know the Bush family -- they are wonderful people.  George HW BUsh did well as
president until a cyclical recession kicked in -- and the "right wing" of his party decided to
"teach him a lesson" for being a moderate.    Clinton would not have won except for "right wing nuts"
who abandoned President Bush -- so blame your own party for its misfortune in 1992.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

I happen to know the Bush family -- they are wonderful people.  George HW BUsh did well as
president until a cyclical recession kicked in -- and the "right wing" of his party decided to
"teach him a lesson" for being a moderate.    Clinton would not have won except for "right wing nuts"
who abandoned President Bush -- so blame your own party for its misfortune in 1992.

I think it's this kind of verbage that confuses folks into thinking it's that personal offending of politics that makes their
life good/bad.....we need to stop looking for the government to make it good or bad........THAT is what is personal.......

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WH Dismisses Reports that Obama Will Announce Decision Against Tax Cuts
Published September 08, 2010 | FoxNews.com

The White House waved off suggestions that President Obama will draw a line in the sand refusing to extend tax cuts for the wealthy during his speech Wednesday.

Though the administration has said several times that it wants to let the Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans expire, White House officials told Fox News that a New York Times article saying that the president will announce a final decision is overwritten.

The Times reported that during his speech in Cleveland Obama will affirm that he is against any type of deal extending the high income tax cuts beyond this year.

The president’s speech is intended to introduce a trio of proposals made to spur economic growth through tax cuts and investment. But the administration refuses to call the measures a second stimulus package.

White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs had defended the president’s position on the tax cuts Tuesday.

“The president's viewpoint is that we cannot afford to extend the tax cuts for those making more than $250,000 a year,” Gibbs said. “Most of the spending for extending those tax cuts comes from … incomes that surpass $1 million. Roughly, for a millionaire, that's $100,000 tax cut. I don't think the president believes that we are a $100,000 tax cut from a millionaire away from an economy that works for families that are making $40,000 a year.”

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner also gave a major speech with the same argument in August.

Despite these assertions, the Washington Post also reported Wednesday that Obama would not extend the tax cuts for incomes over $250,000—a tax bracket that many small business owners fit into................>>>>.....................>>>>....................................http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/08/wh-dismisses-reports-obama-announce-decision-tax-cuts/

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

the law was passed to aid disabled people .. not sure where the "wheelchair bound strippers" came into
the debate

Educate yourself to the tyranny of heavy handed government

http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2002/072002/07162002/suit


http://www.grainbeltnews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=629


http://www.washingtonexaminer......83335-101997883.html

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September 10, 2010
Obama Middle Class Tax Cuts – Reality Check
Posted: September 10th, 2010 06:04 PM ET
From Senior Congressional Correspondent Dana Bash and congressional producers Deirdre Walsh and Ted Barrett

Democratic sources are unsure if they have the support to pass President Obama's plan to extend only the Bush tax cuts for families making $250,000 or less.

Washington (CNN) – While President Obama and Democratic leaders have settled on a strategy to extend only the Bush tax cuts for families making $250,000 or less, senior Democratic sources concede they're not sure whether they can make that political push a legislative reality – especially before election day.

The sources admit that the immediate challenge isn't Republicans who also want to extend tax cuts for wealthier Americans, but many of their own moderate Democrats, especially those who are trying to hold onto their seats and do not want to be accused of raising taxes.

Democratic congressional leadership sources say they have not yet decided on how to address that tax cut quandary, but say it will be the most prominent order of business when House and Senate Democrats return to Washington and hold caucus meetings next Tuesday.

The sources say that President Obama, Speaker Pelosi and Harry Reid have all agreed that sticking to then-candidate Obama's pledge to do away with the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans is a good way to help re-energize a disillusioned Democratic base. Democratic strategists say demoralized Democratic voters are one of their biggest Election Day concerns.

That's why the President used his news conference to press the argument that "Instead of tax cuts for millionaires, we believe in cutting taxes for middle-class families."

But, in the Senate, three Democrats and one Independent senator have already said they want to extend the Bush tax cuts for those making $250,000 or more, calling it essential not to raise taxes in a bad economy.

A Senate Democratic leadership source says it is still unclear how they will work around that opposition when crafting legislation, which they do intend to try to bring to the Senate floor this month.

And a House Democratic leadership source admits that it is an open question there too whether Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other Democratic leaders will be able to convince moderate Democrats to go along with an extension for only middle class Americans.

Democrats like Rep. Harry Mitchell of Arizona, and Rep. Jim Matheson of Utah, for example, have said they want to extend tax cuts for all tax rates until the economy is in better shape.....................>>>>.......................>>>>...............http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/10/obama-middle-class-tax-cuts-reality-check/

Raising taxes now is like putting one of those bleeding needles they used to use in the middle ages into a sick person's arm. Draining more life blood which is money that would be otherwise spent or reinvested in the private sector and cramming it into another temporary stimulus program would be economic suicide for once-free nation's economy. Taxes are already too high at every level across the board. In order to make America work again, pissing the money away on a program of helping the public sector unions is a reverse robin hood scheme. The democraps, who once in the old days were for helping the PEOPLE, now only give a flying f9ck about helping the public sector unions and the federal bureaucracy which has a 60 inch waistline already. Only those with the old "GE" mentality about punishing the "rich" (how well has THAT worked for upstate NY?) cling to the failed notions of the past.

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Expiring Tax Cuts Hit Taxpayers at Every Level

Published September 17, 2010 | Associated Press

WASHINGTON -- Here's some pressure for lawmakers: If they don't reach agreement on extending soon-to-expire Bush-era tax cuts, nearly all their constituents back home will get big tax increases.

A typical family of four with a household income of $50,000 a year would have to pay $2,900 more in taxes in 2011, according to a new analysis by Deloitte Tax LLP, a tax consulting firm. The same family making $100,000 a year would see its taxes rise by $4,500.

Wealthier families face even bigger tax hikes. A family of four making $500,000 a year would pay $10,800 more in taxes. The same family making $1 million a year would get a tax increase of $53,200.

The estimates are based on total household income, including wages, capital gains and qualified dividends. The estimated tax bills take into account typical deductions at each income level.......................>>>>............................>>>>..............................http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/17/expiring-tax-cuts-hit-taxpayers-level/

This math kills me......I'm not 'rich' by any means....but I am 'richer' than some other folks......I have what I have because I have what I have....

get out of my pocket.......we cannot legislate CHARITY......

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Wait and see: Dems will hold off on middle-class tax break vote
Last Updated: 1:39 PM, September 26, 2010
Posted: 1:27 PM, September 26, 2010

WASHINGTON — The White House and Democratic leaders in Congress said today they would find a way to extend middle-class tax cuts after the November elections, unable to secure GOP backing before lawmakers break to campaign.

"One way or the other, we're going to get it done. And I believe the pressure is going to build among the American people" said David Axelrod, President Barack Obama's top political aide.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., had suggested that a vote could be held this coming week before lawmakers leave town for the elections. But her deputy, Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland, said today that holding a vote wouldn't matter because the legislation is still languishing in the Senate under GOP objections.

Both parties are using the delay in a vote on the fate of these George W. Bush-era cuts at a time of record deficits as political ammunition this election season.

Democratic leaders have said they want to freeze tax rates for individuals making up to $200,000 and for families earning up to $250,000. Republicans, as well as some more conservative Democrats, want to extend all of Bush's income tax cuts permanently, even for the wealthiest of Americans.......................>>>>................>>>>.................http://www.nypost.com/p/news/politics/wait_break_vote_dems_will_wait_for_Latcck2nwVd5G0YSeEpnAK