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Same-sex marriage at bat
Bestiality on deck


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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Quoted from 55tbird
Same-sex marriage at bat
Bestiality on deck


Polygamy on deck
Beastiality in the hole.
A free for all after that.  Including incest.




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It's called "the slippery slope"... Conservatives LOVE IT!  They use it every chance they get, even though it's meaningless.

"If they outlaw a Mosque in NYC, next they will outlaw a Synagogue in Chicago... then a  Temple in Atlanta... (a slippery slope in action)... THEN THEY WILL OUTLAW ALL CHURCHES!!!
Chaos
Anarchy
Total Human Destruction...

Conservatives aren't very creative but they sure are entertaining!!!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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It's called "the slippery slope"... Conservatives LOVE IT!  They use it every chance they get, even though it's meaningless.

"If they outlaw a Mosque in NYC, next they will outlaw a Synagogue in Chicago... then a  Temple in Atlanta... (a slippery slope in action)... THEN THEY WILL OUTLAW ALL CHURCHES!!!
Chaos
Anarchy
Total Human Destruction...

Conservatives aren't very creative but they sure are entertaining!!!


I hope you're talking about Religious conservatives in general and not just about conservative Christians..
Go visit Turkey and Saudi Arabia and you'll see how tolerant Muslims are.



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If you re-read the post, you'll see that I was posting about the "Slippery Slope", an often used debating gimmick of the Right. (Apparently it works on Conservative minds, as they never seem to recognize it)

Example,
Allow welfare for starving Americans and next you'll have to allow it for almost starving Americans, then slightly hungry Americans, and next hungry American goats & chickens & cats & dogs... etc etc etc.

It's basic debating 101...

"Slippery Slope":
A FALLACY  in which a course of action is objected to on the grounds that once taken it will lead to additional actions until some undesirable consequence results.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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There is some truth to the slippery slope theory, although it is overused.
Using your social welfare example:
Take a look at the original LBJ great society legislation and compare it to what social services provides today
or
Social Security was enacted by FDR in 1933. The retirement benefit was originally meant to be a supplement, but isn't for many people now.
However, with less people contributing to the system and more people getting benefits. raising the retirement age to 70 for full benefits is only the beginning. Look for a sliding scale of SS benefits to be based on "need".
In other words, the people who sacrificed with less in order to save for retirement will get screwed, while the people who saved nothing and lived for today..don't


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So 55 you're a firm believer that if marriage included gay couples, in a few years marriage would include marriage to a goat.

Based on nothing but the Slippery Slope argument... you are a typical conservative.

How about "tax cuts for the rich are good... so more tax cuts for the rich would be even better... so lets tax the poor and middle class and give it to the Rich, since it's such a good thing!!!

You only believe the slippery slope arguments that fit your agenda...  again, a Conservative trait.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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And you are typical all-knowing all-ASSuming liberal.

I am not a conservative, I am libertarian, look it up..huge difference.
As far as taxes..how about a national sales tax, exclude necessities like rent, food items, heat so it does not unfairly hit the working poor. The more you spend , the more you pay. Hit items brought into the County by non-businesses with a huge custom tax so the rich can't go around the tax..
The sales tax should in the neighborhood of 35%. A side benefit is it kills the argument of illegals not paying income tax for jobs under the table... that sound conservative to you?



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The top 1 percent of tax returns paid more in federal individual income taxes than the bottom 95 percent of tax returns.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/250.html



http://www.parapundit.com/archives/004657.html

The bottom 50% of taxpayers pay a whopping 3.07% of all federal income taxes paid! HOW UNJUST!!! of courrrrrrrrrseeeee they want more crap paid and wasted money, THEY AREN'T THE ONES PRODUCING THE TAX MONEY!

So stop with the ridiculous lies. You are either stupid or a liar.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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So 55 you're a firm believer that if marriage included gay couples, in a few years marriage would include marriage to a goat.

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No, its called sarcasm/satire
Untighten your sphincter a sec and join in.



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Quoted from GrahamBonnet
The top 1 percent of tax returns paid more in federal individual income taxes than the bottom 95 percent of tax returns.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/250.html



http://www.parapundit.com/archives/004657.html

The bottom 50% of taxpayers pay a whopping 3.07% of all federal income taxes paid! HOW UNJUST!!! of courrrrrrrrrseeeee they want more crap paid and wasted money, THEY AREN'T THE ONES PRODUCING THE TAX MONEY!

So stop with the ridiculous lies. You are either stupid or a liar.


Actually, 41% of Federal income tax filers pay either NO fed income tax or get a gub'met check..for a negative tax responsibility



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A value added tax was also a proposal... that might work.

but
you have to remember the golden rule...(the people with the gold, make the rules).  and the rich will buy an exemption from their taxes just like they do now.

A libertarian???
Real Libertarians are not concerned with who marries who!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Actually, 41% of Federal income tax filers pay either NO fed income tax or get a gub'met check..for a negative tax responsibility



And half of all US businesses pay NO TAX AT ALL, even though they are making millions... GE, EXXON etc.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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progressive (pro|gres¦sive)

adjective
1 happening or developing gradually or in stages:
a progressive decline in popularity
(of a medical condition) increasing in severity:
progressive liver failure
(of taxation or a tax) increasing as a proportion of the sum taxed as that sum increases:
steeply progressive income taxes
2 (of a person or idea) favouring social reform:a relatively progressive Minister of Education
favouring change or innovation:

1 an advocate of social reform
2 Grammara progressive tense or aspect:
the present progressive
3 (also progressive proof) (usually progressives) Printingeach of a set of proofs of colour work , showing all the colours separately and the cumulative effect of overprinting them



Hmmmm... Progressive - Happening in stages? Social Reform? - Slippery Slope?

Progressives are a slippery slope - their policies lead to something bad and disastrous.


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progressive

–adjective

~favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp. in political matters: a progressive mayor.

~making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened ideas.

~characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement.

~noting or pertaining to a form of taxation in which the rate increases with certain increases in taxable income.

~a person who is progressive or who favors progress or reform, esp. in political matters.


Conservative

–adjective

~disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to LIMIT CHANGE.

~cautiously moderate or purposefully low: a conservative estimate.

~traditional in style or manner; avoiding novelty or showiness: slow to change.

~ of or pertaining to the Conservative party.

~( initial capital letter ) of, pertaining to, or characteristic of Conservative Jews or Conservative Judaism.

~a supporter of conservative political policies.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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