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Box A Rox
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Rep. Bob Inglis (R-SC), who lost his primary run-off for the Republican nomination, is speaking out about the influence of hate radio and right-wing fear mongering in the Republican Party.

~ Noting that Palin had spread the “death panel” smear, Inglis said, “there were no death panels in the bill…and to encourage that kind of fear is just the lowest form of political leadership.”

~ “I think we have a lot of leaders that are following those (television and talk radio) personalities and not leading... What it takes to lead is to say, ‘You know, that’s just not right.”

~ – Inglis on the right-wing’s effort to divide America: “It’s a real concern, because I think what we’re doing is dividing the country into partisan camps that really look a lot like Shia and Sunni. It’s very difficult to come together to find solutions.”

Like Inglis, Sen. Bob Bennett (R-UT) lost his GOP primary, despite a similarly conservative voting record. Bennett later slammed the GOP for being held captive to far right-tea parties and Fox News, noting, “I find plenty of slogans on the Republican side, but not very many ideas.” Inglis, who stood out as one of the only Republican lawmakers to publicly criticize Glenn Beck, warned that voters eventually will discover that the GOP is “preying on their fears” and turn away.

(The Times Record)
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s.....amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT


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...And quoting two Republicans that lost in their primaries means???    

Box, are Republicans now the voice of reason because it re-enforces your points of view?

And of course Democrats didn't prey on the peoples fears when pushing through Health Care Reform, or the Stimulus bill.  Remember, the world was going to stop revolving if we didn't pass nearly $1 trillion dollars in new spending.  Now, when the Democrats defend why the stimulus didn't work, they revert to fear, claiming that if they didn't pass it "it would have been much worse".  Fear mongering isn't party specific.


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...And quoting two Republicans that lost in their primaries means???    


Not just two Republicans, but two Republican Incumbents who lost because of Hate broadcasting.

The soul of the Republican party has been up for grabs ever since the 2004 Bush election... and complicated by the Right Wing Teabaggers.  

Of course there is NO Death Panels... but a moderate Republican won't say so for fear of losing votes from the Lunatic Fringe of the GOP.
Right Wing Hater Broadcasting controls the party...
To differ with Druggy Rush or Hannity will invite a fit of rage against any moderate who dares to speak the truth... as a result...
The Death Panel Lies... are allowed to go unchallenged.
Birther BS... is accepted by a large portion of GOP as if it were true.
Even the Leader of the GOP, Steele, cowers to the power of Hate Radio's number one convicted fellon drug abuser and often married loud mouth, Rush (I'll tell you ditto heads what to believe) Limbaugh.

Meanwhile the split in the GOP between viable GOP politicians and  Far Right extremists continues to drag the party down.






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I find this very refreshing to say the least! Both parties have failed us miserably and is yet continuing in it's downward spiral.  It is refreshing to see that both parties are being looked at very closely. It's about damn time!!! I don't know about anyone else....but I've had just about enough of both parties and these media outlets that spin EVERYTHING....for nothing more than ratings.

Ron Paul's ideology is looking better and better these days, huh?


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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What's a Ron Paul... (Sounds like some kind of NUTTY granola bar)


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Not just two Republicans, but two Republican Incumbents who lost because of Hate broadcasting.



That is such a fallacy.  These same incumbents that claim they lost because of "hate broadcasting"(talk radio) won in previous elections because of this so called "hate broadcasting".  These Republicans are disingenuous when they now blame talk radio for their loss.  Where were they 8 years ago when they won elections on the backs of talk radio?  I didn't hear them complaining about Limbaugh and the likes then.

These figure heads in the media aren't driving this climate in America.  It's years of terrible policy by both parties that are affecting Americans that is.


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Conservative Hate Broadcasting is what's wrong with today's GOP.  The elections are driven by media ratings, not by the will of the constituency.

Hate Radio does better when there is an Opposing Party in the White House to rail against... So... Promote a sure loser in the presidency and Voila!!! Ratings go up... and the Republican voter loses.

The Top GOP picks for president in 2012??? Fox Broadcasting employees!





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Not true.  GWB was VERY unpopular among many conservative pundits and radio personalities.  GWB was hammered on his position regarding illegal immigration.  So your claims hold NO WATER.  Most talk radio is IDEOLOGY driven, not PARTY driven.  I will agree that a guy like Rush carries the water for the Republican Party.


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The REPS are doing a much delayed house cleaning. It should only come to this County. Don't feel left out Rox-the DEMS in Penn also joined in the fun. Wait until after the REP tidal wave in November!
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Not true.  GWB was VERY unpopular among many conservative pundits and radio personalities.  .

Bush was the best the Right Wing could do in 2000, but the Conservative Hero and Bush Foreign Policy GOD was Dick "Shoot em in the Face" Cheney... a true Conservative!

Who orchestrated the optional war in Iraq???
Dickey Boy Cheney!
Cheney, along with Bush's brain "turd blossom" Rove, pushed the Conservative agenda... Bush was along for the ride.



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Like I said before..........it is refreshing to see both parties being shown the door!!!! It is long overdue. Our government, both parties, have overstepped their constitutional boundaries for decades. It's about time the people wake up!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Who orchestrated the optional war in Iraq???
Dickey Boy Cheney!
Cheney, along with Bush's brain "turd blossom" Rove, pushed the Conservative agenda... Bush was along for the ride.


Where do you come up with this stuff?  You're regurgitating 2004 Kerry campaign rhetoric. C'mon, tell me whose fault was it? Bush, Cheney, Rove?  But not the 111 democrats that voted "AYE" authorizing force in Iraq.  After all, they are Democrats; you can explain away those votes.  Clinton and Kerry were "misled" I'm sure is your answer.  Separate yourself from the flock, be an independent thinker for once.  You’re very predictable.  Republican bad – Democrat good.  It’s getting old, and people around the country are wising up.  Both parties need an enema.


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When you are as far to the Right as you are Cicero... EVERYONE IS TO THE LEFT!

On Iraq, just read the 'white paper report' from the national archives & The downing street memo.
The Intelligence presented to the armed services commission was cooked to fit the need.

The preliminary planning for the invasion of Iraq was made in 1999 befoer GWB was even elected... all that was missing was the excuse to go to war.  Sept 11 gave them that excuse.

(national archives)
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB254/index.htm


Republicans bad, Democrats good???
Not my opinion.  I judge each politician on his record, not his party affiliation.  For a long time the Republican party was the party of Fiscal Conservatives... an admirable attribute, but no longer.
And while you're judging Republicans and Democrats, don't forget the one socialist in the US gov... Bernie Sanders.  Give his record a look and see how he has voted for his constituents in Vermont.


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For a long time the Republican party was the party of Fiscal Conservatives... an admirable attribute, but no longer.


Perhaps you are beginning to see the light now. The reps right along with the dems need a kick in the a$$! We need to clean the government's house ..... both parties!!! Agree???



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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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Nope!

I don't look at "vote the bums out" as a viable option.  Most of the time, what happens is that irate voters will rant, rave and shout about clearing the house, but when it comes to a vote... they vote THEIR bums back in.

If I were a Republican I'd have several people in mind that I would vote for.  As a Democrat, I've eliminated several but also found some that I definitely support.

I've lived through several cycles of "vote the bums out" rhetoric, that never materializes in the voting booth.


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