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A public hearing was held on yet another rezone request from a developer who wants to expand a multi family complex on Curry Road/Floral Ave.   During the public hearing, the residents described how this rezone would negatively impact the neighboring residential properties.  For example, the Floral Ave parcel (purchased by the developer just a couple months ago)  is currently zoned residential and there are homes on all sides.  The developer’s plans are to use the property for a driveway entrance to the housing complex.  
COULD IT BE THAT THIS DEVELOPER (A FORMER TB ATTORNEY AND DEM) WAS PROMISED THE REZONE BY THE CURRENT TB?  
PLEASE MAKE IT STOP
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Tippy’s summary of the public hearing follows.
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ROTTERDAM TOWN BOARD
MAY 12, 2010

PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. For a Change of Zone request on approximately 2.735 acres from Single Family
Residential (R-1) and Two Family Residential (R-2) to Multi-Family
Residential (R-3), on Tax Map Number 58.8-9-17.11 & 58.8-9-4.1 located at
1066 Curry Road and 1113 Floral Avenue, Rotterdam, New York, 12306. The
applicant proposes to construct a six (6) unit apartment building and bring a 42-
unit apartment building into current zoning codes.

Mark Blackstone - Mr delorenzo has owned the properties for quite some time. We would like to build a 6 unit building we are requesting to bring all parcels in to a common zoning code

Bob Godlewski- so our notes are outdated?
Yes.

We will eliminate the existing light glare

We move the building further north
And the parking lot moved also
Emergency access road has been eliminated by floral
We propose a 6 unit building and about 80 percent of our renters are with out children
We will demolish an existing outbuilding and clean up the area
This building would have minimum windows on the Gabriel property side and no balconies
The addition of 6 units would be neg compared to the current 50 units
No access off of walnut street

Any questions
Bob Godlewski -When will you present to the planning board?

Mark Blackstone -We will meet with the planning board anytime at your request

Bob Godlewski -There is a meeting this tuesday

Audience - Are there plans available on windows ???

Windows are limited to. 8 percent of the wall

Audience - There will be patio doors on the first floor
yes
Audience - What percent of the lighting is upgraded
Mr delorenzo - 3 of 12 lights are done

Mark Blackstone -We will comply with all retroactive lighting requirements

The planner- forward the project back to us or continue forward
The chairman is aware of the proposed changes

Mark Blackstone -We would be happy to attend a caucus meeting

A resident requests -  that the changes go before the planning commission so that residents can be notified properly

Please leave the public hearing open as there are only three board members here today

FDG-This public hearing will remain open
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Yup.....it's the former dem town attorney!
They are all cashin' in while they can!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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I'm curious whether ND will fight for these residents like she did the Sync renters.
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Yup.....it's the former dem town attorney!
They are all cashin' in while they can!


          This proposed rezone is only for 6 units.  I would like to see the study that shows the need for more apartments.  As I understand it, pretty much all apartment complexes periodically have availability.  Long Pond isn't even close to capacity, and Larned is proposing what, a couple hundred more units?  Helderberg Meadows, the condos on Edgewood Ave.  I guess the Town Planners figure they need to put people up after they raise the taxes beyond affordability . . . .
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          This proposed rezone is only for 6 units.  I would like to see the study that shows the need for more apartments.  As I understand it, pretty much all apartment complexes periodically have availability.  Long Pond isn't even close to capacity, and Larned is proposing what, a couple hundred more units?  Helderberg Meadows, the condos on Edgewood Ave.  I guess the Town Planners figure they need to put people up after they raise the taxes beyond affordability . . . .


Can everyone say......'SECTION 8'??


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Wasn't Delorenzo the Town Republican Chair years back?  I think he had family members as committe people also.  I could be mistaken.


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Can everyone say......'SECTION 8'??


Rotterdam, a nice place to live!  Yeah, you were right, get the heck out of here . . .
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[quote=453]ACOULD IT BE THAT THIS DEVELOPER (A FORMER TB ATTORNEY AND DEM) WAS PROMISED THE REZONE BY THE CURRENT TB?  
PLEASE MAKE IT STOP
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Well it will stop when they are all voted OUT!
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Long Pond will fail because they are charging WAY too much for what they have to offer.  I guess they are trying to get GE's foreigners that they bring in.  
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...he WAS a republican chair who was ousted years ago and for the past decade has been an influential helper of Democrats posting the signs all over his properties for them...That is a fact.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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I hope they get it, seems like a good investment into the community.  Empty houses with for sale signs do not.
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I hope they get it, seems like a good investment into the community.  Empty houses with for sale signs do not.


I don't live in that area. It appears to be a pretty populated area already. But it will be up to the residence who will be effected personally to pose their opinions.

As far as it being a good investment in the community.....possibly. But I don't see that right now. There are 'for rent' signs at the already existing MFH facilities. I know that some of these facilities that never took section 8 before, are now welcoming them.

As far as empty houses with for sales signs.....this particular property owner also own homes that he rents out. So that would be another option for him. Renting out already existing homes helps keep the same landscape of a residential area. MFH are more intrusive in appearance.

But then again....rotterdam doesn't have any updated comp plan to protect it's residents or businesses. It is still a shoot from the hip, spot zoning! This is not the correct or smart way to grow a community.


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I agree with Bumble.  The residents have spoken and it is clear that their lives will be negatively impacted.  They already have problems with the existing apartment complex (dumpsters with rodents, garbage tossed on their lawns, poorly maintained fencing due to snow plowing).   And now the developer wants to cut an exit into a residential area on Floral.   Why didn't the Planning Commission stop this request at their level?  Why do we have a PC if they cannot stand up to these developers and protect the residential properties that have been in our town forever!  It's a rubber stamp at their end and then the request is passed onto the TB for the party payback approval.  As I said earlier, let's see which TB members advocate for the residents by voting against this rezone!  
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ROTTERDAM
Neighbors oppose adjacent apartment plan

BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter
Reach Gazette reporter Justin Mason at 395-3113 or jmason@dailygazette.net.

    Mike Gabriele already has a clear view of an apartment building off the back deck of his Walnut Avenue home.
    The trees that Gabriele said were promised as a buffer more than 25 years ago turned into a stockade fence, which only blocks the first floor of the two-story, nine-unit complex from his well-manicured backyard. From his deck, he can see the building’s Dumpster, the parking lot and most of the structure Tom DeLorenzo built just months after Gabriele constructed his home on what was once a wooded dead-end street buffered from the bustle of Curry Road.
    Now, he fears the rest of the wooded buffer standing between his home and a handful of others on nearby Floral Avenue will fall prey to development if Rotterdam approves a zone change DeLorenzo requested this spring. The change from single- and two-family residential to multi-family residential would allow DeLorenzo to build a new apartment building that would be situated less than 30 feet away from either the front or side of Gabriele’s home.
    “I walk out my door and there’s going to be an apartment building right there,” he said Tuesday, gesturing to the wooded parcel.
    Gabriele is among 38 residents who signed a petition opposing the zone change, which is under consideration by members of the Town Board. They fear developing the parcel for multi-family use will significantly disturb their privacy and severely diminish their property values.
    DeLorenzo disagrees. He said the four-unit building he is proposing to build on the property will have a negligible impact on the area and ultimately help bolster Rotterdam’s property the neighbors by putting up all the appropriate screening,” he said Tuesday.
    Already, DeLorenzo said he’s pledged to reduce the number of units in the building to accommodate concerns raised by neighboring property owners. He said the initial proposal of up to 10 units was whittled down to six earlier this month and then down to four after an outpouring of criticism from nearby property owners.
    DeLorenzo also pledged to situate windows away from other residential properties and have an entrance to the building off Curry Road, instead of Floral Avenue. He said the project would also rely on all available techniques to shield light pollution and other negative impacts of the development.
    “I know they don’t want to see anything go there, but this is land that we have the right to use,” he said. ................>>>>................>>>>..............http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r01501&AppName=1
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A new building for only 4 rental units? in Rotterdam?

Where's the logic in that?
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