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tdonovan
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There is no proof that Amedore profited, but actually quite the opposite.  There is proof that Parisi and the Town Republicans assured Amedore would get the zoning changes requested.  So Amedore invested money based on their word, then on the 23rd hour, the assured zone change did not happen, causing him to lose the money invested, based on empty promises.  

So to clarify my position, I don't think they are both the same.  George's private business doesn't depend on his postion as assemblyman to make money.  He has not received one penny outside of his Assembly salary.  As a matter of fact, inner party squabbling may have lost him money.  

I don't see Parisi attempting to mend things with the county and state reps, or find common ground to move the party in a new direction.  The Rotterdam Reps are looking to start a populist movement with a politically entrenched candidate in Parisi.  If the Rotterdam Reps were truly looking for a populist candidate, O'Connor, or McGarry would have been a better choice.

This primary challenge is very transparent.




The truth will come out over time. George used his Assembly position for private business gain. How is that moral? How is that right at all? And then admits to 17 other committee people that because he didn't get his zoning change he didn't support republican ticket in rotterdam? That is enough proof for me.
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As for Mertz, if a committee chooses not to endorse someone, basically because they felt he was no longer electable


It is my recollection that Gerard announced that John would not receive the endorsement long before the committee met
to decide.  His statement to the Gazette reporter caught many in the party committee off-guard.
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The truth will come out over time


There are many truths about all three candidates who are vying for the 105th Assembly seat.  I believe that
the voters will learn those truths as the election nears.

Which of the candidates have acted the most unethically?  Which is the most self-serving, placing his own interests and those of his family before those of who he was elected to represent?  That will be for the voters to decide when they have all of the information.  The character of these individuals will be clear by Election Day.
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Our rotterdam committee is clearly split right now but I don't see how that is any reflection on the current leader. (VP Chair Dick Karp)


I met interim Chair Dick Karp last week.  He seems to be a level-headed and principled man who can put the broken Rotterdam Republican party committee back together if he choses to accept the challenge.  I felt the same way about Jim Longo and was sorry to hear that he had stepped down from the position for reason(s) unknown (to me at least).

A house divided cannot stand.
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The truth will come out over time. George used his Assembly position for private business gain. How is that moral? How is that right at all? And then admits to 17 other committee people that because he didn't get his zoning change he didn't support republican ticket in rotterdam? That is enough proof for me.



I think it may have been the fact that George was misled and lied to by the Parisi-Republicans that may have caused George's luke warm support of the Parisi ticket.  Apparently Parisi's ticket wasn't electable.  George could have cloned himself and went door to door. That train wreck of a ticket still wouldn't have won.  By the looks of it, you would have thought Gerard’s strategy was to intentionally sink the Republican ticket.  

BTW...It wasn't the fact George didn't get the zoning change, it was the fact that he was assured they were going to vote yes on the zoning change, then changed the vote to no after he invested money.

I know you support Gerard, but do you have to mislead the readers?  Why would GA have spent money on preparing the property for development, if he thought the zoning change was in question?  It doesn’t add up.


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where these clowns parisi/tommasone/salamone trying to make GA look bad back in 2008 elecction, by running the other salamone as the wfp candidate? He won by a landslide, but that kind of press didnt help him any.  I recall the news that GA got was pretty negative - by calling the salamone kid a republican plant.  GA is up for reelection again and the same names keep popping up.  the whole thing stinks as if angelo left some cheese out in the sun !!!!!! HHHHAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!



State Assemblyman Republican George Amedore will be officially announcing his run to defend his post in the 105th district at 10:30 a.m. Wednesday at Rotterdam Town Hall, followed by another appearance at noon at Crystal Ristorante in Amsterdam.

Amedore will be joined by Republican minority leader Assemblyman Jim Tedisco, and the release says, “dozens of family, friends and supporters.”

Democrat and Schenectady City Councilman Mark Blanchfield will be challenging Amedore. Blanchfield will have to fight it out for the Working Families party line Sept. 9 against Joseph Salamone.

There’s already been a little controversy in this race, what with the Working Families party claiming that Salamone, a 21-year-old who’s dating the Republican Rotterdam supervisor’s daughter, is just a Republican plant. Salamone vehemently denys it. Working Families filed a general objection against Salamone’s petition, but said they couldn’t come up with enough objections to make the challenge official.

When campaign finance filings were due a couple of weeks ago, Amedore had about $40,000 in his war chest, compared with about $20,000 for Blanchfield.
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Leadership like mine? excuse me? What leadership role am I in right now?


One who is on a small committee who is privileged enough to assist in signature gathering, executive meetings, fundraisers and is able to vote on endorsements among other things is considered a "leader" in my opinion.

The truthfulness of Parisi's campaign and his record will come out by September. He directly turned off the electorate last year by making brain-dead public comments against his opponents which directly hurt his candidates on election night. Trying to weaken a person from his own party (who has one of the most Conservative voting records in the entire state) to help his turncoat best friend is despictable at best. This really ought to help your party gain its reputation back, huh? Really trying to strengthen your party, huh? How much has the Party "grown" in membership and volunteers under his leadership? Can't wait to see how his handpicked successor, FS, does in the upcoming election too.

Parisi has no one but himself to blame for his election day losses. Blaming Amedore is just trying to redirect the blame. It was his ticket, his press releases and his campaign direction that the candidates followed, not Amedore's. But, you all just blaming others and dividing your party to oblivion. Yes, leadership at its best.

  

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I am a registered blank and don't have a 'loyalist party candidate' in this race. Being a blank and not a party loyalist, allows me the pleasure of looking objectively at the issues and elections. However, I must confess that I have never voted for a dem and the direction they are going in these days, I probably won't anytime too soon. They are like an inbreeding family of sorts.  I also do not believe in a one party rule, which is exactly what this county is blessed with right now. It isn't good!

As far as the local reps, they shot themselves in the foot. They appear to be playing the victim role and blaming everything external on what is apparently an internal issue. While the dysfunctional dems are gaining steam....the reps are losing it, due to their own initiative. If the reps are serious about rebuilding, they should shed off GP. He will only hurt their cause further. IMHO

There is a ways to go in this assembly race. But if I had to vote today, I would cast my vote to GA. I never vote for a flip flopper like AS. And GP appears to be disingenuous at best. GP appears to lack in character and driven by his own personal and political motivations. If I had to judge the three on character alone, GA would win hands down. He appears to be a fine man with morals and values that surpass most in the political arena. GA appears to be a man of his word and also appears to sincerely care about the people he represents.

GA is fairly new in politics, but he seems to have some positive accomplishments to his credit for being the new kid on the block. I would give him another term.




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One who is on a small committee who is privileged enough to assist in signature gathering, executive meetings, fundraisers and is able to vote on endorsements among other things is considered a "leader" in my opinion.

The truthfulness of Parisi's campaign and his record will come out by September. He directly turned off the electorate last year by making brain-dead public comments against his opponents which directly hurt his candidates on election night. Trying to weaken a person from his own party (who has one of the most Conservative voting records in the entire state) to help his turncoat best friend is despictable at best. This really ought to help your party gain its reputation back, huh? Really trying to strengthen your party, huh? How much has the Party "grown" in membership and volunteers under his leadership? Can't wait to see how his handpicked successor, FS, does in the upcoming election too.

Parisi has no one but himself to blame for his election day losses. Blaming Amedore is just trying to redirect the blame. It was his ticket, his press releases and his campaign direction that the candidates followed, not Amedore's. But, you all just blaming others and dividing your party to oblivion. Yes, leadership at its best.

  



Anything worth fighting for in the past had a necessary evil of dividing firstly. Unfortunately, anything worth fighting for is uncomfortable & destructive at first. Take a look at past historical events. Change always includes opposition and opposition always includes some kind of war on some level. It's just part of life.
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If you think they both inappropriately profited (again, I don't...Parisi's firm saved the town money) then DON'T SUPPORT EITHER! DON'T BE A HYPOCRITE!


Hey stupid, let's start with "open your brain 101"!

GA = no zone change =   -  $30,000
GP = 10hr per week job = + $140,000
    = IDA attorney =  + $26,000
    = increase in Golub work = +$210,000
    = REMS. =  + $15,000


Oh, and that just 2009!  Wow!  Where were we in that question about who profited more?


Frank you are an idiot.
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So sounds like we have two situations here:

1. Parisi's firm was hired to represent the town.  They took care of all the legal matters, and did all the other functions you mentioned.  Separately, they were also contracted by REMS for work.  You seem to have very concrete numbers, that no one else has.  But, to recap, Gerard was hired for necessary work.

2. Amedore tried to backdoor his way into a zone change that, for all we know, may have been approved ANYWAY!  Yet because he tried to backdoor it, Steve (and probably Mertz...but who knows his reason) abstained from the vote.  They were being ethical...Amedore was NOT!

Now, consider the town's current situation, with not allowing absentee ballots for the REMS vote, not allowing renters to vote in the same election, screwing up the privilege of the floor process so residents can't speak, the new "secret meeting" we read about in the Gazette on central dispatch, and countless other mishaps...we can thank our town attorney for the majority of those issues.  When Liccardi is too busy doing what his bosses want, and not what's RIGHT, like letting people VOTE, then we get these problems.

I can remember countless times Parisi and Tommasone would disagree on things, sometimes bitterly.  That's how it should be...you should stick to your guns, and fight for your position.  In Gerard's case, his position was statute and law, and pretty clear.

So, based on those two situations...whether you agree with whether or not Gerard should be paid...why do you support ANY of the two?  You don't like the fact that Gerard got paid to be town attorney.  OK, go with it.  But the same conscience in you should be saying you don't like Amedore's actions either, if not more so than Gerard's.

But you won't do that...
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So Gerard netted nearly $400K in 2009 through town related work AND he just so happened to be the Rotterdam Republican Party Chair during the time the Republicans had the town board majority?  And George lost $30K because he tried to "backdoor" his way into a zone change?  How does somebody "backdoor" a zone change? Please explain.

TBV, sounds like you would like to create voter apathy toward George and Gerard, in hopes voters choose the 3rd option - Angelo.


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Anything worth fighting for in the past had a necessary evil of dividing firstly. Unfortunately, anything worth fighting for is uncomfortable & destructive at first. Take a look at past historical events. Change always includes opposition and opposition always includes some kind of war on some level. It's just part of life.


Exactly WTH is it that you find necessary to fight for??? You use the words 'evil', 'war', 'fight' and 'opposition'. You apparently have been hoodwinked honey!

You also mislead the readers with false information. Now either you are repeating misinformation or you do know the real facts but are deliberately misleading the electorate. Which one is it?

And it appears that zorro has cleared up the question on exactly 'who profited from who'! GP is the winner!

Support who you will, but please don't continue with the distortions and misinformation. You are starting to look foolish.


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"Starting to look foolish"? -lol-This has got to be the biggest waste of time and money. With all the hot air everyone knows that this is a suicide mission to weaken GA against ANG. Instead of holding the one REP seat all the effort is put into this lost cause.

     Now we hear that the town REP chair has changed again. Another cup of coffee? Like Hamas the new chair should be a super secret one.
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Hey stupid, let's start with "open your brain 101"!

GA = no zone change =   -  $30,000
GP = 10hr per week job = + $140,000
    = IDA attorney =  + $26,000
    = increase in Golub work = +$210,000
    = REMS. =  + $15,000

Oh, and that just 2009!  Wow!  Where were we in that question about who profited more?

Frank you are an idiot.


$420k just last year alone from his town contracts???? Wow Zorro! Well that certainly explains alot. Hmmm, gee, I wonder why GP is acting this way..... HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAA. Holy crap, wait until all the voters hear of these dollar amounts going directly into his pockets. Oh my, this is going to be beautiful!


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