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Really
March 17, 2011, 6:29pm Report to Moderator
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town has toooooo many neighborhoods

as long as the cost of the improvement is not more than 60% of the current assessment value than a building permit would not cause a reval


Come on tippy, are you tippy due to St Patrick's celebrations?

To many neighborhoods, this town has soooooo much undeveloped land that is a crazy thought that there is too many homes....yousure you didn't get water in your ears when the canoe tipped over the garden apartments?

And ok, so let's see, if a home is assessed for $210,000 and there is improvements/additions made unless the value of the project is more than $126,000 the town should just ignore the improvement, ok I think tis is a bit generous, how about I buy into your idea however let's cap the improvement value to 10% of the assessed value, that is if the states laws even allow something like that.  60%, you must be planning a 1,500 ft addition to your house
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we wouldn't have the stupid conversation about our neighbors assessments if the planning was better......patina/style/class/business/roads/sidewalks
lighting/town community center.....every Tom/Dick/Harry/Sally/Molly/Lori have their own ideas......

WE NEED A PLAN.....the developers of OLD and the 'mayors' of OLD are done....finished/fini....the future is coming and let's get to it.....


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Come on tippy, are you tippy due to St Patrick's celebrations?

To many neighborhoods, this town has soooooo much undeveloped land that is a crazy thought that there is too many homes....yousure you didn't get water in your ears when the canoe tipped over the garden apartments?

And ok, so let's see, if a home is assessed for $210,000 and there is improvements/additions made unless the value of the project is more than $126,000 the town should just ignore the improvement, ok I think tis is a bit generous, how about I buy into your idea however let's cap the improvement value to 10% of the assessed value, that is if the states laws even allow something like that.  60%, you must be planning a 1,500 ft addition to your house


I think you are a bit tipsey!! Rotterdam is pathetically packed like sardines!! And the folks that moved to the outlying areas did so just to get away from the rotten smell and look of sardines. There were NEVER any substantial building restrictions. There are houses built one on top of each other with commercial buildings stuffed in between!!!

Don't fart if you live in rotterdam....your neighbor will not only hear you.....


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sorry i didnt have my calculator to check #'s  and have no clue what a 16'x16' room or a 20'x24' garadge costs  - nor do i need one  - the point was to find a percentage point

and i just wanted your attention

but lets lose the hit on building permits up to a point

encourage new paint, siding, roofing, shrubs, trees, sheds and clean this place up

stop being so regressive

the assessor has a lot of latitude if.... the town has a PLAN to stay at 100% - the STATE encourages a 6 YEAR PLAN to get around the issue the STATE created

right now we we have SH!T because we have no PLAN


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Don't fart if you live in rotterdam....your neighbor will not only hear you.....


wow you must live next door



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As for the assessed values not being a perfect match to the sales, the reval gave them a value and just because a property sells doesn't mean you just change the assessed value, I think it is called "the good neighbor rule or law" the assessed value would possibly change on the next townwide reval....just the way it works, but hopefully understanding there is more to the "Sale" price will help get some water out of the canoe.....not bad work, you just need to look a little closer......


You seem to have some insight regarding these apartment complexes.  I notice that the dollars per sq ft of assessed value is really low on the apartments.  What's with that?  
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Don't fart if you live in rotterdam....your neighbor will not only hear you..



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wow you must live next door



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March 18, 2011, 8:48am Report to Moderator
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I think you are a bit tipsey!! Rotterdam is pathetically packed like sardines!! And the folks that moved to the outlying areas did so just to get away from the rotten smell and look of sardines. There were NEVER any substantial building restrictions. There are houses built one on top of each other with commercial buildings stuffed in between!!!

Don't fart if you live in rotterdam....your neighbor will not only hear you.....


Most all the neighborhoods are from the 60's and 70's that are "so" tight, so no I am not tipsey at all.  The newer developments are mostly done with nice lots, and there is tons of land to do even bigger lot for any new development, just most of it wold have to be in the west part of the town.  As for commercial development, please there has always been an issue with that in this town and the ideas to correct well let's just say, not a good one yet.  And nothing wrong with a good fart after you polish off your corn beef, lol
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You seem to have some insight regarding these apartment complexes.  I notice that the dollars per sq ft of assessed value is really low on the apartments.  What's with that?  


Not sure that they are that low, but if you look at a per unit price....very close to where they should be, not sure how the reval handled apapartments, but if income approach of value was used, they are about as close as they can be....nothing is ever perfect
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Rotterdam should have land requirements eg: 1 acre min., past a certain radius beyond the sardine can. Even Amsterdam has that!!


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March 18, 2011, 9:41am Report to Moderator
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Rotterdam should have land requirements eg: 1 acre min., past a certain radius beyond the sardine can. Even Amsterdam has that!!


I agree, larger lots are nice, but the majority of the "sardine cans" you refer to, where build for some of the 30,000 people that used to be at GE, a lifetime ago, and at that time it was a desired type of living and cost effective, not for everbody, but that is why there are new developments and rural lands too, I know in type there is no inflection, but so many people here are soooo angry, too funny, life is too short
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Quoted from bumblethru
Rotterdam should have land requirements eg: 1 acre min., past a certain radius beyond the sardine can. Even Amsterdam has that!!


SOOO much worse for the environment! Not that some people who leave their 1 acre lot wooded, but like in places like Eldo Estates and such the builders and residents will clear cut anything taller than a one inch blade grass.


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I agree, larger lots are nice, but the majority of the "sardine cans" you refer to, where build for some of the 30,000 people that used to be at GE, a lifetime ago, and at that time it was a desired type of living and cost effective, not for everbody, but that is why there are new developments and rural lands too, I know in type there is no inflection, but so many people here are soooo angry, too funny, life is too short


        I checked your evaluation on the garden apartments, and it appears you are correct about multiple units as part of the sale price.  Confirmed this on the County property site.  Rotterdam site has bad information regarding these sales hence misinformation was generated from bad information.

        Regarding these excerpts, but that is why there are new developments and rural lands too, and but so many people here are soooo angry, too funny, life is too short, the people who live in the Feuz Rd. area are in new developments, they obviously resent supporting projects that impact their investments and change the character of the neighborhoods to what you describe in your post.  I guess one can see their point and understand their anger.
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so more bad GAR info???  if so WTF did we pay for???


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Quoted from TippyCanoe
sorry i didnt have my calculator to check #'s  and have no clue what a 16'x16' room or a 20'x24' garadge costs  - nor do i need one  - the point was to find a percentage point

and i just wanted your attention

but lets lose the hit on building permits up to a point

encourage new paint, siding, roofing, shrubs, trees, sheds and clean this place up

stop being so regressive

the assessor has a lot of latitude if.... the town has a PLAN to stay at 100% - the STATE encourages a 6 YEAR PLAN to get around the issue the STATE created

right now we we have SH!T because we have no PLAN


CHA-CHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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