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GrahamBonnet
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Yeah Christianity never did anyone harm!!!

No one says this guy is a victim, what are you talking about?  


Please document the most recent Christian bombing that claimed multiple victims, and let me know how many are still running around on the loose, getting trained (at the Vatican, presumably) in how to kill women and children with nail filled homemade bombs ( I don't use the jargon IED which sounds like another harmless government program) THEY ARE BOMBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!


BTW- do some homework on the Tamil Tigers and let me know what religion they are.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Please document the most recent Christian bombing that claimed multiple victims, and let me know how many are still running around on the loose, getting trained (at the Vatican, presumably) in how to kill women and children with nail filled homemade bombs ( I don't use the jargon IED which sounds like another harmless government program) THEY ARE BOMBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!


BTW- do some homework on the Tamil Tigers and let me know what religion they are.


The Tamil Tigers are fighting for government control, not religious ideology.  What about the IRA? Some disarmed but many still have not.

1996 Summer Olympics- Eric Rudolph was part of many extreme Christian groups.
Huratee - Christian militia based in MI that this year that saw 9 of its members arrested for making IEDs

Want to go farther? KKK, Army of God, The Knights Templar (not recent), Concerned Christians.  Thats just two American examples, but the list goes on and on.


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No, we don't excuse attacks.  No where did I say that, but I understand sometimes you get confused.  But let's not go demonizing other religions because it makes understanding the world easy, because it isn't, and to make such broad strokes puts everyone in a bad light.  If Christianity were judged in such a negative light based on it's most extreme (WBC, Abortion doctor killers, Catholics, Mormons) then it can also be broadly considered an bunch of wackos.  Hell, one read through of the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is enough to think Christians must be daughter sacrificing freaks.  However, we know better for the most part.

Islam has as many different groups  as Christianity, and lumping them together is like saying Lutherans are bad because crap the Orthodox Christians are doing.


If Christians were setting off bombs on commercial planes, or on crowded city streets, or massacring soldiers on army bases in the name of Jesus, and it was learned that they were trained and funded by the Vatican, I would have no problem labeling them CHRISTIAN TERRORIST.  If it were Hindu's trying to murder Americans in the name of Ganesha or Shiva and it was learned they were getting trained in training camps in Bombay, I would call them HINDU TERRORIST.  If Buddhist Monk were posting You Tube videos of Tibetan Monk gathering in the streets of Lhasa chanting "Death to Americans" and promising future attacks on Americans, yup, you guessed it, I would call them BUDDHIST TERRORIST.

Of course I understand that not ALL Muslims are terrorist.  BUT... recent trends point to the fact that the majority if not all terrorist attacks on civilian population around the world and against American interests in the past 2 decades just so happen to be Muslim.  Political correctness isn't going to change that fact.


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What about the IRA? Some disarmed but many still have not.


I'm sure when bombs were going off in Northern Ireland, they weren't suspecting Pakistani Muslims.


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Your assessment of the Tamil Tigers is all wet. They was MUSLIM government control. Yeah, I will agree that that Eric Rudolf gang, with its 40,000 armed followers is a real threat, with an international fundraising network that raises billions and governments worldwide that harbor his armed followers. Didn't they blow up the Sears Tower and kill 3,000 people? Yeah and that Army of God is BIGGGGGG! I saw a video of them beheading an atheist that played all over the internet, and their last bomb killed 92 people in a strip mall. As far as the "Knights Templar," that is a real relevant and modern connection, especially since they might have building dirty bombs. You are a bigger fool and apologist than I thought. Why don't you wake up and smell some coffee, you dummy- radical Islam is comprised of massive numbers of well educated, well armed, and state sponsored mass murderers on the level of  National Socialism. This isn't a bunch of rednecks in a hillbilly shack bitching about how they want to rise up against the feds. Clown. Stop the idiotic moral and comparative relativism!!!!!!!!


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Your assessment of the Tamil Tigers is all wet. They was MUSLIM government control. Yeah, I will agree that that Eric Rudolf gang, with its 40,000 armed followers is a real threat, with an international fundraising network that raises billions and governments worldwide that harbor his armed followers. Didn't they blow up the Sears Tower and kill 3,000 people? Yeah and that Army of God is BIGGGGGG! I saw a video of them beheading an atheist that played all over the internet, and their last bomb killed 92 people in a strip mall. As far as the "Knights Templar," that is a real relevant and modern connection, especially since they might have building dirty bombs. You are a bigger fool and apologist than I thought. Why don't you wake up and smell some coffee, you dummy- radical Islam is comprised of massive numbers of well educated, well armed, and state sponsored mass murderers on the level of  National Socialism. This isn't a bunch of rednecks in a hillbilly shack bitching about how they want to rise up against the feds. Clown. Stop the idiotic moral and comparative relativism!!!!!!!!


Very eloquent- but basically, you cant   seem to tell the difference between Al Quaida and Muslims- whats up ?  
( Al Quaida/ Taliban are the ones that are selling the drugs to America so they can get the money to by bullets to kill us )


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It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.
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this country is bordering on not knowing itself and not knowing its enemy
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Very eloquent- but basically, you cant   seem to tell the difference between Al Quaida and Muslims- whats up ?  
( Al Quaida/ Taliban are the ones that are selling the drugs to America so they can get the money to by bullets to kill us )


Are you saying that AlQuaida/Taliban are not muslims fighting in the name of their god/religion? I don't really care what name they go by....they still are MUSLIMS!

Why is it so difficult for the politically correct liberal media to report it as that?






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Bumble...who is the 'they' that are attacking Christians and Jews?  Muslims or the media...you aren't clear there.

Islam in of itself is not violent, just like most Christians don't follow the beliefs of the Westboro Baptist Church.  To see the difference of opinions in your own culture but not understanding that there are differences in other cultures is ignorance.  Granted, their extreme crazies are a little more organized then in the western culture, but they aren't ALL bad people and their religion is not too blame in itself.  



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LOL Cicero don't turn your bigotry in another post on to me because I called you on it.  Mexicans in general are darker then the white America most police officers belong to, so yes, any brown people will be stopped.

As the late George Carlin put it, America is always at war with brown people.


Here is a clear example of the metal disorder called liberalism.  

People that recognize that there is a terrorist threat to American that originate in the Muslim world, we are considered bigots because we generalize that terrorist tend to be Muslim, but understand that not ALL Muslims are terrorist.

On the other hand, when a law is written in Arizona to address ILLEGAL immigration, the liberal has no problem generalizing that the law is a racist law aimed at "brown people" as if ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are of latin descent.  Last I checked illegal isn't a race.  Double standard??  

Just for the record - I agree, the illegal immigrant problem on our southern border tend to be of Mexican/Latin American descent, but not ALL illegal immigrants are from Central and South America.  But I also recognize that terrorist tend to be of Middle Eastern and of the Muslim faith, but not ALL Muslims are terrorist.  

BTW,,,George Carlin is an idiot.


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Is it considered racist profiling when a child comes up missing and  the authorities  zero in on registered sex offenders?


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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BT--what kind of goofy question is that?  Your question makes no sense.
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Sombody--good question about becoming "dumbed down" from living in Schenectady/Rotterdam.    I don't feel it is in the water.  People work hard to achieve that goal.  Some smart people on this board make good assessments (even if I do not agree with them) but they were smart enought to beat tracks to another state.  I am just trying to move to another county.
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Are you saying that AlQuaida/Taliban are not muslims fighting in the name of their god/religion? I don't really care what name they go by....they still are MUSLIMS!

Why is it so difficult for the politically correct liberal media to report it as that?



That is like saying every act of terrorism needs to have it's religion attached to it.  Which, if that is the case, we should just get rid of all religions and remove all doubt.  

I don't understand how Cicero, Bumble, and a few others seem to get their ideals challenged and then blame liberal meda and accuse me and a few others here of demonizing Christianity and idolizing Islam.  That is far from the case however.  Both religions have very crazy extremists that do kill people.  But the differences seem to be where things go wrong.  Do not call Islam a violent religion, as for every single violent Muslim I guarantee there are many more that are not.  

Yes, Al Qaeda is blowing stuff up and they are much more organized then the Christian version.  Why?  Well one, is that they are sponsored by governments.  Those governments that are at odds with the way America and other nations do things but do not have the military to oppose them directly.   America in its strong military does not sponsor religious zealots in their terror campaigns because 1) we don't need to and 2) most of them are more angry with America then other nations.  So yes GB, you are correct and I never disagreed with your statement.  But let's not say that the murderous anger of one group is less then another, they are the same just one has a lot more funding.


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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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Heh, the Feds didn't even call Emirates airline to tell them about the change in the no-fly list and to watch for this guy:

http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=928174

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The FBI asked the TSA not to make the calls, according to an administration official who spoke on condition of anonymity in order to discuss the ongoing investigation. The FBI did let the TSA call a few domestic air carriers, which did not include Emirates.




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