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Which one is Delgallo?  I thought he didn't have any hair down there.....they all look pretty
hairy.........
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I ran into a friend of mine who lives by this racetrack. He said that there has been a little less activity lately. Perhaps they got the message and know that they have to apply for a zone change for this type of racetrack.


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The following item was on the Draft Agenda for the 6/9/2010 TB meeting and then wasn't on the final.  What's up with that?  Is the Supervisor trying to come up with a better solution for his Racetrack buddy?

179.10 Refer to the Planning Commission for report and recommendation thereon a proposed
Local Law of the Year 2010 for the following purpose:
To amend Chapter 188 of the Code of the Town of Rotterdam entitled NOISE to
include an updated and enumerated set of prohibited nuisance acts, permitted
acts, including a maximum decibel level and increased penalties.


Don't know why the Town would need to amend the Code.  The Westside Track has no permit, no insurance for a track and it is disruptive to the neighborhood and violates the noise code.    Can't the Town simply enforce their code?
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Why start now?
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they didn't want to end late nite snow removal

put a stop to backup beepers

outlaw jake brakes

require only oem exhausts on cars, trucks and motorcycles

and close the thruway

and jam car stereos

getting around all those items was tooooo much thought

just enforce the current current code its been on the books since 1963 !

it worked on the corner of north thompson and burdeck!  venture into the trees its there

http://news.google.com/newspap.....+rotterdam&hl=en

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The following item was on the Draft Agenda for the 6/9/2010 TB meeting and then wasn't on the final.  What's up with that?  Is the Supervisor trying to come up with a better solution for his Racetrack buddy?

179.10 Refer to the Planning Commission for report and recommendation thereon a proposed
Local Law of the Year 2010 for the following purpose:
To amend Chapter 188 of the Code of the Town of Rotterdam entitled NOISE to
include an updated and enumerated set of prohibited nuisance acts, permitted
acts, including a maximum decibel level and increased penalties.


Don't know why the Town would need to amend the Code.  The Westside Track has no permit, no insurance for a track and it is disruptive to the neighborhood and violates the noise code.    Can't the Town simply enforce their code?


this guy has a " race track " on his own PRIVATE PROPERTY ?  I seriously doubt it meets the definition of a race track- really.

Noise abatement regulations are another thing -I have had occasion to work in cities that have very elaborate noise abatement laws- they are specifically written to deal with and decibel levels during hours of the day-  such as - noise associated with construction ( that has a permit )
noise associated with property permanence is different
barking dogs
high decibel activity- such as jackhammering - high decibel levels require a certain break - every number of minutes

I think the citizens are going to be surprise what poorly written laws they have- people think  because something is ANNOYING YOU-  you think there must be a law against it- somewhere


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I think the citizens are going to be surprise what poorly written laws they have- people think  because something is ANNOYING YOU-  you think there must be a law against it- somewhere


In the socialist liberal world, there is just that. Someone whines, and BINGO!!......... there's a new law/regulation created! However that appears to not be the case in rotterdam since they don't uphold the laws/codes/regulation that are in place now........no matter how good or poorly written they are!! it's your basic sh!thole!


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this guy has a " race track " on his own PRIVATE PROPERTY ?  I seriously doubt it meets the definition of a race track- really.

Noise abatement regulations are another thing -I have had occasion to work in cities that have very elaborate noise abatement laws- they are specifically written to deal with and decibel levels during hours of the day-  such as - noise associated with construction ( that has a permit )
noise associated with property permanence is different
barking dogs
high decibel activity- such as jackhammering - high decibel levels require a certain break - every number of minutes

I think the citizens are going to be surprise what poorly written laws they have- people think  because something is ANNOYING YOU-  you think there must be a law against it- somewhere



Well, once again, Sombody== Fail



Definitions of racetrack on the Web:

    * a course over which races are run



Races have been seen and recorded on that property, nice try.

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this guy has a " race track " on his own PRIVATE PROPERTY ?  I seriously doubt it meets the definition of a race track- really.

Noise abatement regulations are another thing -I have had occasion to work in cities that have very elaborate noise abatement laws- they are specifically written to deal with and decibel levels during hours of the day-  such as - noise associated with construction ( that has a permit )
noise associated with property permanence is different
barking dogs
high decibel activity- such as jackhammering - high decibel levels require a certain break - every number of minutes

I think the citizens are going to be surprise what poorly written laws they have- people think  because something is ANNOYING YOU-  you think there must be a law against it- somewhere


          I think if you Google Earth the property you will clearly see a well defined path (track) and four wheeler tire marks (tracks) visually apparent.  It is DEFINITELY a race track pursuant to the Rotterdam Code.  Also clearly violates the Code.  Also is disruptive to the neighbors which is also a violation of the Noise Code.  Personal property has nothing to do with it.  When you live in or adjacent to Residential the laws and codes are designed to protect against egregious activities, that's why they're on the books!
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Well, once again, Sombody== Fail



Definitions of racetrack on the Web:

    * a course over which races are run



Races have been seen and recorded on that property, nice try.



Right here in this  definition we have the reasoning ability of your typical Schenectady ' concerned citizen '  who thinks Google is the answer.  I guess maybe you might want to look up private property too- then maybe take a trip to the city and look over the NOISE Abatement code-

Is this pea brained thinking really all that can be expected from Mr. Concerned Faux Citizen ?-
You will be hard pressed to prove anyone is racing on a race course.  do you understand the words Private Property ?-  keep you dictionary handy- and get down to the law library and  wake up- Avon you wake up too - your comments are dumber yet-


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Right here in this  definition we have the reasoning ability of your typical Schenectady ' concerned citizen '  who thinks Google is the answer.  I guess maybe you might want to look up private property too- then maybe take a trip to the city and look over the NOISE Abatement code-

Is this pea brained thinking really all that can be expected from Mr. Concerned Faux Citizen ?-
You will be hard pressed to prove anyone is racing on a race course.  do you understand the words Private Property ?-  keep you dictionary handy- and get down to the law library and  wake up- Avon you wake up too - your comments are dumber yet-


You really should stop embarassing yourself dude.  Once again, you've proven yourself as a FAIL

"Private Property"  - sorry, doesn't hold water.  Marotta tried that in Pattersonville - the state and town shut him down - huge fines, cleanup fees, etc. (Check http://rotterdamrepublican.blogspot.com/search/label/Marotta ... http://rotterdamny.info/m-1209472035/  ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S7QWTRu1B8


Check the "town code" when it comes to how property is supposed to be maintained:  (Here's a link for your reference) http://www.ecode360.com/?custId=RO0175


Just because you own the land, it still must be maintained according to the code / rules / laws of your town county and state.

Again - check the link for the town code I provided above - specifically $222.2:


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RACETRACK
    Any ground, area or track upon which races, contests or demonstrations of skill or stunts are conducted for the enjoyment or entertainment of the public or for the gratification of the contestants which employ go-carts, stock cars, motor scooters, midget autos, motorcycles, motor vehicles or other vehicles propelled by a force other than human energy.



Now, you wanna keep going?  You won't win on this one, trust me.
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You really should stop embarassing yourself dude.  Once again, you've proven yourself as a FAIL

"Private Property"  - sorry, doesn't hold water.  Marotta tried that in Pattersonville - the state and town shut him down - huge fines, cleanup fees, etc. (Check http://rotterdamrepublican.blogspot.com/search/label/Marotta ... http://rotterdamny.info/m-1209472035/  ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S7QWTRu1B8


Check the "town code" when it comes to how property is supposed to be maintained:  (Here's a link for your reference) http://www.ecode360.com/?custId=RO0175


Just because you own the land, it still must be maintained according to the code / rules / laws of your town county and state.

Again - check the link for the town code I provided above - specifically $222.2:





Now, you wanna keep going?  You won't win on this one, trust me.


Ignorant - Who is going to prove they are racing ?  


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MT, he's got a point. Just because the definition of "race track" on the internet is a track for racing, doesn't mean that is the legal definition.

Furthermore, these types of things are often determined by what will hold up in court.
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MT, he's got a point. Just because the definition of "race track" on the internet is a track for racing, doesn't mean that is the legal definition.

Furthermore, these types of things are often determined by what will hold up in court.


He does NOT have a point.   A raceTRACK is defined by Rotterdam Town Code:

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http://www.ecode360.com/?custId=RO0175   specifically $222.2

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RACETRACK
    Any ground, area or track upon which races, contests or demonstrations of skill or stunts are conducted for the enjoyment or entertainment of the public or for the gratification of the contestants which employ go-carts, stock cars, motor scooters, midget autos, motorcycles, motor vehicles or other vehicles propelled by a force other than human energy.





The videos in this very thread show "demonstrations" - and I'm quite certain they're enjoying and entertaining ... ANY motor vehicle propelled by a force other than human energy.


It's defined in the town code - it's not a made up definition.   TBV - we don't always agree, but certainly you can see the LEGAL definition, as defined and approved by the Town of Rotterdam.  Don't ::FAIL like sombody, k?



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Is this pea brained thinking really all that can be expected from Mr. Concerned Faux Citizen ?-
You will be hard pressed to prove anyone is racing on a race course.  do you understand the words Private Property ?-  keep you dictionary handy- and get down to the law library and  wake up- Avon you wake up too - your comments are dumber yet-


          The dude has been arrested and did time in jail for violation of environmental laws, his son lives with his mother in Duanesburg and brings his buddies there to race (they aren't even Rotterdam residents).  The track brings no tax dollars into the town, so has no value to the municipality.  The residential neighborhood is long established pre-dating this dude's property purchase.  No one has the right to do whatever they want on any property!  When you present a plausible argument, semi-intelligent rationale, post it and I'll smoke you again!
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