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On Feb. 24, 2010, I FOILED for the minutes to the IDA and Zoning Board meetings. Mr. Godlewski (attorney) contacted me later that day to confirm he did receive my FOIL request. I am also requesting a FOIL for the contract that was voted on last night at the IDA meeting with the Metroplex.

FOIL:
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Within five business days of the receipt of a written request
for a record reasonably described, the agency must make the
record available, deny access in writing giving the reasons
for denial, or furnish a written acknowledgment of receipt
of the request and a statement of the approximate date when
the request will be granted or denied, which must be reason-
able in consideration of attendant circumstances, such as the
volume or complexity of the request. The approximate date
ordinarily cannot exceed 20 business days from the date of
the acknowledgment of the receipt of a request. If it is known
within fi ve business days of receipt of the request that more
than 20 business days will be needed to grant a request in
whole or in part, the agency’s acknowledgment must explain
the reason and provide a specifi c date within which it will grant
access. Similarly, if the agency acknowledges the receipt of a
request and provides an approximate date within 20 business
days that cannot be met, it is required to inform the person
requesting the record, indicating the reason for the delay,
and provide a specifi c date when it will grant access. When
a specifi c date beyond 20 business days is given, it must be
reasonable in relation to the circumstances of the request.
If the agency fails to abide by any of the requirements con-
cerning the time within which it must respond to a request, the
request is deemed denied, and the person seeking the records
may appeal the denial.

http://www.dos.state.ny.us/coog/pdfs/right2know.pdf
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good  f($&@*)kin'  luck

the way FOILS come out of town hall you could retire on a "sharpie" or "ACME Stamp(DENIED)" stock purchase

but, in all honesty i do hope they supply the info you have requested the first time without issue

the way ALL info not involved in a law dispute or cause personal harm should come out of ANY govt faciliry



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FOIL has become a four letter word in this occupied town. I just saw Godlewski this morning, looking for the information requested in a FOIL  that I
filed on Feb. 25. He claimed he had ten days to respond...I told him he had to produce the records, as confirmed with Bob Freeman before my
arrival. He refused to even acknowledge that the records would be provided...I suggested that we call Freeman together, since he is the undisputed
expert and Godlewski is still trying to find his way around Town Hall. Naturally, he refused. He then had the gall to suggest that his failue to respond
constitutes a denial and that I should appeal. I would ask, to whom? I'm sure the "Appeals" officer is a member of the same gang refusing the request
in the first place. It's like the Keystone Kops investigating themselves.
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Godlewski the lawyer or TB member?
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Godlewski the lawyer or TB member?


The "lawyer".
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Well he needs to figure it all out yet.
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Adoption of rules and regulations. Section 1401.1. Purpose and scope.  
(a)  The people's right to know the process of government decision-making and the documents and statistics leading to determinations is basic to our society. Access to such information should not be thwarted by shrouding it with the cloak of secrecy or confidentiality.  
(b)  This Part provides information concerning the procedures by which records may be obtained from an agency, as defined by Subdivision 3 of § 86 of the Public Officers Law. No agency regulations shall be more restrictive than this Part.  
(c)  Agency personnel shall furnish to the public the information and records required by the Freedom of Information Law, as well as records otherwise available by law.  
(d)  Any conflicts among laws governing public access to records shall be construed in favor of the widest possible availability of public records.  
(e)  Agencies shall amend existing regulations or adopt new regulations to implement the Freedom of Information Law in conformity with this Part.  

1401.2. Designation of records access officer.  
(a)  The governing body of a public corporation and the head of an executive agency or governing body of other agencies shall be responsible for ensuring compliance with the regulations herein and shall designate one or more persons as records access officer by name or by specific job title and business address, who shall have the duty of coordinating agency response to public requests for access to records. The designation of one or more records access officers shall not be construed to prohibit officials who have in the past been authorized to make records or information available to the public from continuing to do so.  
(b)  The records access officer is responsible for assuring that agency personnel:  
  (1)  Maintain an up-to-date subject matter list.  
  (2)  Assist the requester in identifying requested records, if necessary.  
  (3)  Upon locating the records, take one of the following actions:  
   (i)  Make records available for inspection; or  
   (ii)  Deny access to the records in whole or in part and explain in writing the reasons therefor.  
  (4)  Upon request for copies of records:  
   (i)  Make a copy available upon payment or offer to pay established fees, if any; or  
   (ii)  Permit the requester to copy those records.  
  (5)  Upon request, certify that a record is a true copy.  
  (6)  Upon failure to locate records, certify that:  
   (i)  The agency is not the custodian for such records; or  
   (ii)  The records of which the agency is a custodian cannot be found after diligent search.  
1401.3. Location. Each agency shall designate the locations where records shall be available for public inspection and copying.  
1401.4. Hours for public inspection.  
(a)  Each agency shall accept requests for public access to records and produce records during all hours they are regularly open for business.  
(b)  In agencies which do not have daily regular business hours, a written procedure shall be established by which a person may arrange an appointment to inspect and copy records. Such procedure shall include the name, position, address and phone number of the party to be contacted for the purpose of making an appointment.  
1401.5. Requests for public access to records.  
(a)  An agency may require that a request be made in writing or may make records available upon oral request.  
(b)  An agency shall respond to any request reasonably describing the record or records sought within five business days of receipt of the request.  
(c)  A request shall reasonably describe the record or records sought. Whenever possible, a person requesting records should supply information regarding dates, file designations or other information that may help to describe the records sought.  
(d)  If the agency does not provide or deny access to the record sought within five business days of receipt of a request, the agency shall furnish a written acknowledgment of receipt of the request and a statement of the approximate date when the request will be granted or denied. If access to records is neither granted nor denied within 10 business days after the date of acknowledgment of receipt of a request, the request may be construed as a denial of access that may be appealed.  
1401.6. Subject matter list.  
(a)  Each agency shall maintain a reasonably detailed current list by subject matter of all records in its possession, whether or not records are available pursuant to Subdivision 2 of § 87 of the Public Officers Law.  
(b)  The subject matter list shall be sufficiently detailed to permit identification of the category of the record sought.  
(c)  The subject matter list shall be updated not less than twice per year. The most recent update shall appear on the first page of the subject matter list.  
1401.7. Denial of access to records.  
(a)  The governing body of a public corporation or the head, chief executive or governing body of other agencies shall hear appeals or shall designate a person or body to hear appeals regarding denial of access to records under the Freedom of Information Law.  
(b)  Denial of access shall be in writing stating the reason therefor and advising the person denied access of his or her right to appeal to the person or body established to hear appeals, and that person or body shall be identified by name, title, business address and business telephone number. The records access officer shall not be the appeals officer.  
(c)  If an agency fails to respond to a request within five business days of receipt of a request as required in Section 1401.5(d) of this Part, such failure shall be deemed a denial of access by the agency.  
(d)  Any person denied access to records may appeal within 30 days of a denial.  
(e)  The time for deciding an appeal by the individual or body designated to hear appeals shall commence upon receipt of written appeal identifying:  
  (1)  The date and location of a request for records;  
  (2)  The records that were denied; and  
  (3)  The name and return address of the appellant.  
(f)  The agency shall transmit to the Committee on Public Access to Records copies of all appeals upon receipt of an appeal. Such copies shall be addressed to:  
  Committee on Public Access to Records Department of State 162 Washington Avenue Albany, New York 12231  
(g)  The person or body designated to hear appeals shall inform the appellant and the Committee on Public Access to Records of its determination in writing within seven business days of receipt of an appeal. The determination shall be transmitted to the Committee on Public Access to Records in the same manner as set forth in Subdivision (f) of this section.  
(h)  A final denial of access to a requested record, as provided for in Subdivision (g) of this section, shall be subject to court review, as provided for in Article 78 of the Civil Practice Law and Rules.  
1401.8. Fees. Except when a different fee is otherwise prescribed by law:  
(a)  There shall be no fee charged for the following:  
  (1)  Inspection of records.  
  (2)  Search for records.  
  (3)  Any certification pursuant to this Part.  
(b)  An agency may provide copies of records without charging a fee; or  
(c)  An agency may charge a fee for copies of records, provided that:  
  (1)  The fee for copying records shall not exceed $0.25 per page for photocopies not exceeding nine inches by 14 inches. This section shall not be construed to mandate the raising of fees where agencies in the past have charged less than $0.25 for such copies.  
  (2)  In agencies which do not have photocopying equipment, a transcript of the requested records shall be made upon request. Such transcripts may either be typed or handwritten. In such cases, the person requesting records may be charged for the clerical time involved in making the transcript.  
  (3)  The fee for copies of records not covered by Subdivision (c)(1) and (2) shall not exceed the actual reproduction cost, which is the average unit cost for copying a record, excluding fixed costs of the agency such as operator salaries.  
1401.9. Public notice. Each agency shall publicize by posting in a conspicuous location and/or by publication in a local newspaper of general circulation:  
(a)  The location where records shall be made available for inspection and copying.  
(b)  The name, title, business address and business telephone number of the designated records access officer.  
(c)  The right to appeal by any person denied access to a record and the name and business address of the person or body to whom an appeal is to be directed.  
1401.10. Severability. If any provision of this Part or the application thereof to any person or circumstances is adjudged invalid by a court of competent jurisdiction, such judgment shall not affect or impair the validity of the other provisions of this Part or the application thereof to other persons and circumstances.  

The Town Board of the Town of Rotterdam hereby designates and appoints the following persons

Editor's Note: The specific names of the designated officers shall be on file in the office of the Town Clerk.as the named officers for the respective positions herein as follows:

Designation of officers.

A. Records access officers:

(1) Supervisor.
(2) Town Clerk.
B. Fiscal officer: Comptroller.
C. Hearing officer: Assistant Town Attorney.
D. Appeals officer: Deputy Supervisor.


Statutory exceptions; types of records available.
A. The following records are excepted by statute:

(1) Records which are specifically exempted from disclosure by state or federal statute.
(2) Records which, if disclosed, would constitute an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy.
(3) Records which, if disclosed, would impair contract awards or collective bargaining negotiations.
(4) Records which are trade secrets or maintained for the regulations of a business which, if disclosed, would cause substantial injury to competition.
(5) Records compiled for law enforcement purposes and which, if disclosed, would:

(a) Interfere with law enforcement investigations or judicial proceedings;
(b) Deprive a person of a right to fair trial;
(c) Identify a confidential source or disclose confidential information relating to a criminal investigation; or
(d) Reveal criminal investigative techniques or procedures (except routine techniques and procedures).
(6) Records which, if disclosed, would endanger the life or safety of any person.
(7) Inter- or intraagency materials which are not:

(a) Statistical or factual tabulations or data;
(b) Instructions to staff that affect the public; or
(c) Final agency policy determinations.
( Examination questions or answers, prior to the final administration of such questions.

B. It will be recalled that under the present or existing law, only the following records are available:

(1) Final opinions made in the adjudication of cases.
(2) Statements of policy and interpretation adopted by an agency and any documents constituting statistical or factual tabulations leading to the formulation of the policy.
(3) Minutes of meetings and public hearings.
(4) Internal or external audits and statistical or factual tabulations.
(5) Administrative staff manuals and instructions to staff that affect members of the public.
(6) Police blotters and booking records.
(7) Payrolls.
( Final determinations and dissenting opinions.
(9) Any other records required by any other provision of law to be made available.

Deletion of identifying details.
The following identifying details shall be deleted as unwarranted invasion of personal privacy as follows: The law states that an "unwarranted invasion of personal privacy" includes:

A. Disclosure of employment, medical or credit histories or personal references of applicants for employment.
B. Disclosure of items involving the medical or personal records of a client or patient in a medical facility.
C. Sale or release of lists of names and addresses, if such lists would be used for commercial or fundraising purposes.
D. Disclosure of information of a personal nature when disclosure would result in economic or personal hardship to the party and such information is not relevant to the work of an agency requesting or maintaining it.
E. Disclosure of information of a personal nature reported in confidence to an agency and not relevant to the ordinary work of such agency.
Provisions to guide officers.
The officers mentioned herein shall be guided in the exercise of their duties and responsibilities with respect to the Freedom of Information Law as follows:

A. The new law specifically exempts from its coverage the Legislature and the Judiciary, who are not covered by the old law.
B. The new law does require that the State Legislature make certain enumerated documents available.
C. A significant provision of the new law also is that it requires an agency which denies access to a particular record fully to explain, in writing, the reasons for denial. Additionally, in any judicial proceeding, the burden of proof is placed upon the agency to establish that the record sought to be obtained and denied is exempted from the statute.
D. The new law continues the Committee on Public Access to Records with all its functions. The Committee is empowered to promulgate guidelines concerning the deletion of identifying details for the withholding of records otherwise available in order to prevent unwarranted invasions of personal privacy. In the absence of such guidelines, any agency may delete identifying details when it makes records available.
E. The law specifically states that disclosure shall not be construed to constitute an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy when:

(1) Identifying details are deleted;
(2) The person to whom a record pertains consents in writing to disclosure; or
(3) When, upon presenting reasonable proof of identity, a person seeks access to records pertaining to him.
Notice
The Town Clerk of the Town of Rotterdam is hereby directed to cause the following public notice to be published in the official newspapers of the Town of Rotterdam and to post said public notice in a conspicuous location on the official bulletin board of the Town of Rotterdam as designated by statute as follows.

Editor's Note: The exact wording of said public notice is on file in the office of the Town Clerk.
Hours
Added 3-12-1986 by L.L. No. 4-1986; amended 1-25-1989 by L.L. No. 1-1989]
Records are available at the office of the Town Clerk during regular business hours upon payment of a fee as set forth in Ch. 126, Fees.


taken from the town code


check the officer section

sounds like the hearing officer is advising the foil officer

with godlewski, godlewski, Esposito, FDG running the show will Pat A. save us?


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On Feb. 24, 2010, I FOILED for the minutes to the IDA and Zoning Board meetings. Mr. Godlewski (attorney) contacted me later that day to confirm he did receive my FOIL request. I am also requesting a FOIL for the contract that was voted on last night at the IDA meeting with the Metroplex.

FOIL:

http://www.dos.state.ny.us/coog/pdfs/right2know.pdf


I received both of these FOILS Friday 3/5/2010 by email from Mr. M.Godlewski.

Friday, 3/5/10,  I FOILED for the Metroplex agreement that was voted on Thursday 3/4/10 at the IDA meeting and for the minutes of that same meeting. Mr. M. Godlewski did respond today through email. He stated that the minutes of the 3/4/2010 IDA meeting had not been approved yet. They would be available for public inspection on 3/26/10. As for my request for the Metroplex agreement, he stated that he would forward my request to the secretary for the IDA and will inform me if my request was granted or denied.

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what a digital copy via email is toooooooo hard?

they have the printed master.

what would you do with it,

post it here?

sounds like they don't like googlebot

it not 1950 anymore move on

didn't they ask us to embrace "change"



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Mayberry no longer has party lines(well, politically it kind of does)....anyhow---I agree Tip---move on......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Other Laws That Protect Privacy

The Personal Privacy Protection Law is one among many laws that ensure that privacy is protected. Examples of other statutes that require confidentiality or prohibit disclosure to the public deal with:

personal income tax
applicants for or recipients of public assistance
medical records
mental health records
education records pertaining to students
police records concerning juveniles
claims for unemployment insurance benefits drug abuse
rent control
vocational rehabilitation
applicants for or tenants in public housing
child abuse
adoption
arrest records on persons against whom charges have been dismissed
victims of sex offenses under the age of 18 years
grand jury proceedings
care and protection of children in receipt of social services
autopsy reports
* It is noted that the Freedom of Information Law prohibits release of information by a state agency if the release would constitute an unwarranted invasion of privacy.

http://www.dos.state.ny.us/coog/shldno1.html
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what would you do with it,

post it here?


Fortunately, it's none of your business what she wants it for.
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i don't care why she wants it

but i feel she should have it

and in a timely manner not weeeeks later

her tax dollars paid for it and i don't mean the fee


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i don't care why she wants it

but i feel she should have it

and in a timely manner not weeeeks later

her tax dollars paid for it and i don't mean the fee


I FOIL for these minutes because I don't have the time to attend all of the meetings. I personally like receiving them in my email, where I can just print them out.

The Committee For Open Government states that if emailing is available, it is a preferable way to send and receive the FOILED requests.
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Joann, you shouldn't be sending those requests to Mike Godlewski.  And if you you didn't, he DEFINITELY shouldn't be responding.  The IDA is their own entity.  They, and their attorney, are responsible for receiving and responding to foil requests.  

I suggest you foil the IDA minutes once again.  Make it a two part request - request the minutes, and then in the second one, request the draft of the minutes if they are not yet approved.  They are not "secret" until approved...just unapproved.

Wow...
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