Quoted from GrahamBonnet

...here is the problem with that: Democrat liberals WILL ALWAYS vote democrat, no matter what the "blanks" and "republican-leaners" do. So while Independents and GOP folks are voting out their republican incumbents because they hate the way things are going with the tax and spending, the democrat liberal base is flipping the lever loyally (as they always do 100%) for the far-left socialist democrats who now have each and every station of the Cross from town board on up to the White House firmly in their grasp.

The far left liberal Democrat can continue to flip the lever for the Democrat.  BUT...As we have seen in Massachusetts, a State with a 3 to 1 advantage of registered Democrats to Republicans, the Senate seat once held by the liberal lion Teddy Kennedy was won by a Republican with a fiscally conservative small government message.(NOT CREATING A NEW TAXING DISTRICT )

You say the GOP and Independent folks will be voting out their Republican incumbents I agree, but not to vote for Democrats.  There will be a growing slate of Independent candidates that will be showing up on ballots around the County/State/Country that will appeal to both moderate Democrat and non- party establishment Republicans.  I say lets give those who are not entrenched in party politics a chance to represent us in government.  The current two party system is tainted and corrupted by greed and power.  We had the Republican revolution in 94 that took only one decade for those Republicans in the majority to become drunk with power and act like those they were elected to replace.

I think this will be the Independent revolution of 2010.  Stay tuned.

IMHO if the Tea Party Patriots don't like the candidate that the Rep party runs for office they will just run a fiscal conservative in a primary against that candidate in hopes of getting their candidate on the ballot in November. There are smart ways to get their choices elected without giving the election to the Dems.

We saw that in Rotterdam.  Then, after the tea party candidate DIDN'T win the primary, they were still on the ballot, drawing votes away from the Republicans and TO the Democrats.  Why should we expect anything to be any different anywhere else?  The NNTP did it...I expect the same thing nationally.

The Tea Party advisers have already said that you can't have a 3rd party run against the Reps without giving the election to the Dems. The Tea Party movement is meeting right now to set down some ground rules on how to get their choices elected in a smart way and not make the mistakes of the past.

Yeah, that makes sense...unless during every election cycle, you get rogue candidates who want to "shake things up" and destroy the system.

Quoted from 474

We saw that in Rotterdam.  Then, after the tea party candidate DIDN'T win the primary, they were still on the ballot, drawing votes away from the Republicans and TO the Democrats.  Why should we expect anything to be any different anywhere else?  The NNTP did it...I expect the same thing nationally.

Cant have a third party. PERIOD!

reform has to occur from within the local GOP.  They need to field independent conservative candidates. In all RACES across the county.  What needs to happen is a homegrown grassroots movement to act as a checks and balances for the GOP and use the primary process to keep them honest.  Where is schenectady counties TEA PARTY!

The problem is that it is in part being led by a guy who is a state patronage hack who a few years ago ran to the left of democrat liberal John Paulino on a "Save Our EMS" platform, but suddenly became a fiscal conservative when the mood struck him. But some of the "on the tit" posters were still wearing short knickers then and going to Schalmont before their uncles got them lob jobs at RACC so they wouldn't remember. they are 'super-conservatives' now.

Quoted from Shadow

IMHO if the Tea Party Patriots don't like the candidate that the Rep party runs for office they will just run a fiscal conservative in a primary against that candidate in hopes of getting their candidate on the ballot in November.

Who's to say they won't start to primary candidates against DEMOCRATS?  That's the misconception about the Tea Party supporters.  That they will only affect the Republicans.  Southern and Mid Western Democrats or "blue dogs" may be susceptible to Tea Party primaries by the movements Democrat supporters who are sick of their party.  Again I reference Massachusetts, 3 to 1 Democrat advantage.

The ideology of the Tea Party movement is more in line with the Reps and I saw how well the "blue dogs" followed their principles when the chips were down on the health-care vote even when their constituents told them to vote against the bill. There are no true blue dogs left in the Dem party just left and far left leaning Dems.

Quoted from Shadow

There are no true blue dogs left in the Dem party just left and far left leaning Dems.

Not true.  There are Democrats who hate Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid type Democrats.  The Rachel Maddow's and Keith Olberman's do not represent and in fact repulse many Democrat constituents.

Remember Massachusetts?  3 to 1 Democrats out numbered Republicans.  That means MANY Democrats voted for a Republican that ran on smaller government, anti Obamacare, against trying KSM in NYC and extending Constitutional rights to terrorist.  There is a moderate wing to the Democrat Party, if they don't recognize that, they will lose them to a non-republican alternative that the Tea Party offers.

Quoted from 347

Now that's a loyal Republican!  Way to go Greeny ~ just shows how it's all about you.  What a joke ~ no wonder you got you a$$ kicked.

Funny how he doesn't add Hugh Farley to his dump list? How about that new Town Board member?

     BTW, BT there already is a kick incumbents out movement it's called the Tea Party. And it's coming to this God forsaken County.

In Mass. it was the independents that carried the Scott Brown election not the democrats. Mass. is 50% independent voters, 35% Dems, and the rest are Reps. You saw what happened to the blue dogs when it came time for them to vote their principles, every one of them in the senate caved into the liberal base.

I agree that he Independents carried Scott Brown to victory, but there was also an erosion of Democrats from the party line.  A Republican getting 23% of the Democrat vote in Massachusetts is a substantial number.  

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Republican Scott Brown leads Democrat Martha Coakley 52% to 45% in the special Massachusetts US Senate race to replace Senator Ted Kennedy according to a telephone survey conducted January 15-17 among 600 likely voters in Massachusetts saying they will definitely vote in the special election on January 19.  

Brown leads Coakley 97% to 1% among registered Republicans and he leads 64% to 32% among unenrolled voters. Coakley leads Brown 73% to 23% among registered Democrats.

http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/

Quoted from CICERO

Who's to say they won't start to primary candidates against DEMOCRATS?

I'm to say.  I'll eat my hat if they do in Rotterdam.  That would make the most sense, in my opinion.  Primary the Dems...then have two "supposedly" fiscally conservative candidates run against each other.  Then it's up to the people do decide who the MOST fiscally conservative candidate is.

I think that should be the No New Tax Party's strategy next year...but I won't hold my breath!!

a butterfly is a caterpillar first then a cocoon and then a butterfly.....

it's like birth.....dont think the Dems where they are now will remain and dont put all the eggs into the Rep basket either.....the parties are learning a lesson.....it's called punishment that fits the crime....
what is their crime?---entitlement to themselves without foresight and whole lot of ear tickling......

sorry,,,,both parties no matter how everyone so lovely speaks of their 'family party' are getting their oil changed......and the family photos are coming down....

the constitution shall remain....

I just wish the Tea Party folks would have left Sarah Palin back in alaska.......