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  Same reasons kids join gangs.  They're isolated and lonely and like the camaraderie and belonging to a  group. Yup you're right.  Just offering a different side to the argument Bro.


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Near disaster in air a case of human failure

    Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab — the Nigerian who tried bringing down an international flight bound for Detroit Christmas Day with a homemade bomb — will undoubtedly be blamed for the latest layer of silly air travel restrictions that are already making flying an even more unpleasant experience than it was. But he doesn’t deserve the blame.
    If the security protocols developed after the 9/11 terrorist attacks eight years ago, and refi ned a few months later after would-be shoe bomber Richard Reid, were adhered to as they should have been, Abdulmutallab probably never would have been allowed to board Northwest Flight 253 in Amsterdam, and certainly not with enough explosives taped to his body to blow it out of the sky.
    What happened was another case of government employees — some American, some foreign, all of whom should have known better — failing to follow the rules, connect the dots and basically use their heads.
    Why, for example, wasn’t this guy — whose own father had warned the U.S. embassy with concerns about his son’s radical views — put on a no-fly list? Instead, he was placed on a farless-serious list of “persons with terrorist connections” — along with some half-million other people — and promptly lost track of. Why wasn’t his visa to enter the United States yanked — as it was by the British after he lied on an application to re-enter that country? .............>>>>.............>>>>...............http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r00901&AppName=1
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Ivana Trump Escorted Off Plane: Napolitano Declares 'The System Worked'
by Ann Coulter (more by this author)
Posted 12/30/2009 ET
Updated 12/30/2009 ET

In response to a Nigerian Muslim trying to blow up a flight from Amsterdam to Detroit on Christmas Day, the government will now prohibit international travelers from going to the bathroom in the last hour before the plane lands.

Terrorists who plan to bomb planes during the first seven hours of the eight-hour flight, however, should face no difficulties, provided they wait until after the complimentary beverage service has been concluded.

How do they know Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab didn't wait until the end of the flight to try to detonate explosives because he heard the stewardess announce that the food service was over and seats would have to be placed in their upright position? I can't finish my snack? This plane is going down!

Also prohibited in the last hour of international flights will be: blankets, pillows, computers and in-flight entertainment. Another triumph in Janet Napolitano's "Let's stay one step behind the terrorists" policy!

For the past eight years, approximately 2 million Americans a day have been subjected to humiliating searches at airport security checkpoints, forced to remove their shoes and jackets, to open their computers, and to remove all liquids from their carry-on bags, except minuscule amounts in marked 3-ounce containers placed in Ziploc plastic bags -- folding sandwich bags are verboten -- among other indignities.

This, allegedly, was the price we had to pay for safe airplanes. The one security precaution the government refused to consider was to require extra screening for passengers who looked like the last three-dozen terrorists to attack airplanes.

Since Muslims took down Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, in 1988, every attack on a commercial airliner has been committed by foreign-born Muslim men with the same hair color, eye color and skin color. Half of them have been named Mohammed.

An alien from the planet "Not Politically Correct" would have surveyed the situation after 9/11 and said: "You are at war with an enemy without uniforms, without morals, without a country and without a leader -- but the one advantage you have is they all look alike. ... What? ... What did I say?"

The only advantage we have in a war with stateless terrorists was ruled out of order ab initio by political correctness.

And so, despite 5 trillion Americans opening laptops, surrendering lip gloss and drinking breast milk in airports day after day for the past eight years, the government still couldn't stop a Nigerian Muslim from nearly blowing up a plane over Detroit on Christmas Day.

The "warning signs" exhibited by this particular passenger included the following:

His name was Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab.

He's Nigerian.

He's a Muslim.

His name was Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab.

He boarded a plane in Lagos, Nigeria.

He paid nearly $3,000 in cash for his ticket.

He had no luggage.

His name was Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab.

Two months ago, his father warned the U.S. that he was a radical Muslim and possibly dangerous.

If our security procedures can't stop this guy, can't we just dispense with those procedures altogether? What's the point exactly?

(To be fair, the father's warning might have been taken more seriously if he had not simultaneously asked for the U.S. Embassy's Social Security number and bank routing number in order to convey a $28 million inheritance that was trapped in a Nigerian bank account.)

The warning from Abdulmutallab's father put his son on some list, but not the "no fly" list. Apparently, it's tougher to get on the "no fly" list than it was to get into Studio 54 in the '70s. Currently, the only people on the "no fly" list" are the Blind Sheik and Sean Penn.

The government is like the drunk looking for his keys under a lamppost. Someone stops to help, and asks, "Is this where you lost them?" No, the drunk answers, but the light's better here.

The government refuses to perform the only possibly effective security check -- search Muslims -- so instead it harasses infinitely compliant Americans. Will that help avert a terrorist attack? No, but the Americans don't complain.

The only reason Abdulmutallab didn't succeed in bringing down an airplane with 278 passengers was that: (1) A brave Dutchman leapt from his seat and extinguished the smoldering Nigerian; and (2) the Nigerian apparently didn't have enough detonating fluid to cause a powerful explosion.

In addition to the no blanket, no computer, no bathroom rule, perhaps the airlines could add this to their preflight announcement about seat belts and emergency exits: "Should a passenger sitting near you attempt to detonate an explosive device, you may be called upon to render emergency assistance. Would you be willing to do so under those circumstances? If not we will assign you another seat ..."

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=35037
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Using your logic, declaring war on anything is futile.  

The difference between your examples is that drugs, fat, and cancer are not afflictions caused by an ideological belief system taught by governments and religious  institutions.  Islamic terrorist and terrorism are.  




Hardly Cicero- maybe you and allycan no speak English so good-  Seven years of rhetoric failed to reduce the threat from Al Qaeda-   “War on terror ’’ - terror is a tactic not an enemy, - it has been repeatedly said that  the nation is at war with Al Qaeda-


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Hardly Cicero- maybe you and allycan no speak English so good-  Seven years of rhetoric failed to reduce the threat from Al Qaeda-   “War on terror ’’ - terror is a tactic not an enemy, - it has been repeatedly said that  the nation is at war with Al Qaeda-


Threats of terror are immeasurable.  Actual successful terror attacks are measurable.  Threats are constant; we live in a dangerous world. Our nation waging war against those that want to kill innocent Americans is a proactive approach to reducing such attacks.  Seven years post 9-11, the number of successful terror attacks against U.S. interest were dramatically reduced in comparison to the previous 8 years under Clinton.  FACT

Al Qaeda is not the only exporters of terrorism.  Hamas, Al Queda and numerous other organizations from the same part of the globe practicing the same religion, are using the same terrorist tactics in order to spread their ideology. What’s the common religion?  MUSLIM.


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Judith Miller   - FOXNews.com  - December 31, 2009
DHS Subpoenas Two Journalists Who Published Leaked Airline Security Changes

The Department of Homeland Security, which oversees the Transportation Security Administration, sent federal agents to the homes of two journalists and served them with subpoenas on Tuesday night to try to identify the source of a leak about aviation security changes imposed after the failed attempt on Christmas Day to blow up Northwest Flight 253.

The Department of Homeland Security, which oversees the Transportation Security Administration, sent federal agents to the homes of two journalists and served them with subpoenas on Tuesday night to try to identify the source of a leak about aviation security changes imposed after the failed attempt on Christmas Day to blow up Northwest Flight 253.

In separate visits, the DHS employees told Chris Elliott and Steve Frischling that their computers and all e-mail correspondence related to the leak of the security directive were being subpoenaed as part of an investigation into who leaked the document to them, which both journalists published on their Web sites.

The directive, issued within hours after 23-year-old Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab failed to detonate explosives that had been sewn into his underwear, restricted passenger movement and activities on all international flights. After being published by Elliott and Frischling, the restrictions were widely ridiculed by travel experts, bloggers, and news organizations, which deeply embarrassed the TSA and the homeland security agency, already under pressure for their missteps in the foiled attack.

The TSA backtracked almost immediately on the restrictions -- which had ordered airlines, among other things, not to permit passengers to go to the bathroom an hour before arrival on all international flights and to prevent them from holding pillows, blankets and personal possessions on their laps. A TSA spokesman said that the added security precautions were discretionary.

Elliott, the blogger who first published Security Directive SD-1544-09-06 and writes a travel column for The Washington Post, said he was surprised and somewhat intimidated by the TSA visit and being served with the subpoena. In his blog, Elliott wrote that he had "just put the kids in the bathtub when Special Agent Robert Flaherty knocked on my front door with a subpoena. He was very polite, and used "sir" a lot, and he said he just wanted a name: Who sent me the security directive?"

Elliott said in an interview that he had declined to tell Flaherty the identity of his source or turn over his computer. He said he has referred further inquiries about his stance to Mark Holsher, an attorney, who did not return calls for comment.

Frischling, who runs a travel Web site called "Flying with Fish" and published the directive minutes after Elliott, said in an interview today that he had given his computer to the two federal agents who came to his house on Tuesday night. Frischling said he complied with their request after they asserted that he was "not a journalist" and handed him a subpoena, telling him he had now been "served." They also said they would return the next morning to confiscate his computer and other communications equipment if he failed to cooperate.

Frischling said his computer was returned this morning with several corrupted sectors and that he was running software to repair it. He said he had given the agents his computer because the directive had been sent to him anonymously, that he had deleted the original e-mails, and that it had been sent to him by someone who had undoubtedly used a phony e-mail name and address. .....................>>>>.............>>>>.......http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....ne-security-changes/
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Threats of terror are immeasurable.  Actual successful terror attacks are measurable.  Threats are constant; we live in a dangerous world. Our nation waging war against those that want to kill innocent Americans is a proactive approach to reducing such attacks.  Seven years post 9-11, the number of successful terror attacks against U.S. interest were dramatically reduced in comparison to the previous 8 years under Clinton.  FACT

Al Qaeda is not the only exporters of terrorism.  Hamas, Al Queda and numerous other organizations from the same part of the globe practicing the same religion, are using the same terrorist tactics in order to spread their ideology. What’s the common religion?  MUSLIM.


"The Christian way - law and order - love of family - love of nation. These are the principles of western Christian civilization. There is a war to destroy these things. Pray that our people see the error of their ways and regain a sense of loyalty. Repent  America! Be faithful my fellow believers. "

National Director of The Knights

Pastor Thomas Robb

The home page of the KKK lets us know they have a common religion too- CHRISTIANITY  .  same as you ?


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Sounds like you've got that bookmarked. That's a good student.
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"The Christian way - law and order - love of family - love of nation. These are the principles of western Christian civilization. There is a war to destroy these things. Pray that our people see the error of their ways and regain a sense of loyalty. Repent  America! Be faithful my fellow believers. "

National Director of The Knights

Pastor Thomas Robb

The home page of the KKK lets us know they have a common religion too- CHRISTIANITY  .  same as you ?


Are you saying that the Muslims are parallel to the KKK?



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Look there are good Muslims and bad Muslims.  Good Christians and bad Christians.  Good Jews and bad Jews.  KKK--NOT ANY GOOD ONES.  

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Are you saying that the Muslims are parallel to the KKK?



Firstly- Cicero's comment and ( point  ) that makes being Muslim the focal point is about as ignorant as it gets-

Happy New Year too-


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What is the percentage of the global population that fly??????

we'll never get to moon with this fear.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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U.S. has no excuse for nearly successful terrorist attack

    Re Dec. 28 article, “Airliner attack prompts security review”: The 23-yearold Nigerian terrorist, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, who attempted to blow up Northwest Flight 253, got past security in Amsterdam with PETN, the same kind of explosive used by Richard Reid, the British-Pakistani terrorist who failed nearly eight years ago in a similar endeavor.
    Since then, “sniffer” machine technology has been developed, as well as the use of dogs trained by smell to identify PETN, to counteract such explosive material. Neither was used with the boarding of Flight 253 in Amsterdam.
    Also, Abdulmutallab’s father — a highly respected Nigerian businessman — warned both the U.S. and British authorities that his son had become dangerously radicalized by terrorist groups in Yemen. The British immediately acted upon the information, putting the son’s name on a no-fly list for any British airliner. The United States placed him on an ineffectual list that did nothing to prevent his entry into the United States on Flight 253.
    Homeland Security officials have made no comment as to why the “sniffer” machine technology or bomb-sniffing dogs were not used at the Amsterdam airport. Nor has there been a significant explanation for why the warning from the senior Abdulmutallab was so inadequately dealt with, unlike the prompt action that was taken by the British.
    So far, the only statement from Homeland Security is that new procedures are going into effect, which will add considerably to the boarding of aircraft, especially at U.S. airports. Before exacting more cumbersome airplane-boarding procedures, it would seem wiser to enforce the effective aforementioned techniques that are already in place — especially for international flights.
Moreover, Homeland Security should make sure that credible warnings do not (unlike the British) end up on some ineffectual database list.

WILLIAM WRIGG
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Firstly- Cicero's comment and ( point  ) that makes being Muslim the focal point is about as ignorant as it gets-

Happy New Year too-


If I were in law enforcement in let's say,,,Alabama, and I was investigating a crime where a burning cross was in the front yard of a black family, and I wanted to find the person or group responsible so I could prevent it from happening again.  I wouldn't start in Seattle Washington searching the Asian population, or in Phoenix Arizona searching the Latino population.  You would have to admit that it would be a waste of time and resources to do so.  I would search the White Christian community in the Birmingham Alabama area, and pull over every pickup truck with stars and bars flying from it, and a shot gun in the rear window.  So yes, my focal point would be WHITE, CHRISTIAN, AND MALE that live in the south where there has been a history of racial discrimination and intimidation.  Would that be ignorant?

Now, I didn't say Muslim was the ONLY focal point. As a matter of fact, I concede that all Muslims are NOT terrorist, but all terrorist attacks on American interests around the world are by Muslims. Don't twist my statement.
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Al Qaeda is not the only exporters of terrorism.  Hamas, Al Queda and numerous other organizations from the same part of the globe practicing the same religion, are using the same terrorist tactics in order to spread their ideology. What’s the common religion?  MUSLIM.



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Funny how racial profiling is never denounced when talking about WHITES or CHRISTIANS! Hell, they are up for grabs.


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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