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Christmas is about Jesus, not global warming

    My 10-year old son is a student at Glendaal Elementary School in Scotia. Last night [Dec. 15] was the annual Christmas concert held in the Scotia-Glenville High School auditorium. The auditorium was filled to capacity with many proud parents, grandparents and family members. This is an event that parents and children alike look forward to every year.
    I, along with many others, have always been somewhat disappointed in the production. This time of year is the Christmas season, yet the production had absolutely nothing to do with the true meaning of Christmas. The message of it was “global warming.” What has this to do with Christmas?
    The message of Christmas was not just lost, it was non-existent. While I can applaud the music director’s talent and enthusiasm, I can only see this as her attempt to get a message out that is important to her.
    Regardless of the fact that our country is a melting pot of different religions, the meaning of Christmas is still the same. You can’t change it no matter how you try. In society’s effort to not offend anyone of different religious backgrounds, it, in fact, offends those of us who celebrate Christmas. This country was founded on Judeo-Christian values, and there are still plenty of us who value this.
    If you don’t believe in Jesus or Christmas, that’s fine; but don’t take away our celebration of it by removing its message from holiday programs.

    ANGELA CAPULLO
    Scotia

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This just goes to show how the educational system is brain washing our children with their left wing ideology.
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After 2000 years, Jesus still remains controversial. The government was on His back then and obviously still is. The believers were persecuted then and they still are today. They tried to silence Christianity then and they are still trying to now.

It didn't work then and it won't work now. IMHO


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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Maybe they should have participated in their CHURCH CHRIST-MASS pageant.......who cares what the school does,,,,,send the kids to a religious
affiliated school all you want---you DO have a choice and this IS America........have at it.......it's YOUR religion,,,,certainly NOT the school's or
government's, unless,,,,you want them to be your masters.....and you their bond servant.......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Constitution says gov’t, religion shouldn’t mix
Susan Estrich
Susan Estrich is a nationally syndicated columnist.

    Merry Christmas.
    Or happy holidays.
    Does it really matter?
    Once again this year, there are folks howling about the so-called “War on Christmas.” With real wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, not to mention painfully high unemployment that has left parents struggling to play Santa, you’d think people would have better things to worry about. Think again.
    Christmas is, first and foremost, a religious holiday — a Christian holiday to celebrate the birth of Jesus. The majority of Americans are Christian, and they celebrate Christmas. Notwithstanding the fears of at least one member of Congress who actually introduced an anti-Happy Holidays bill, Christians are not under attack in America. They are in control, in the overwhelming majority, and are very capable of speaking for themselves, protecting their holiday and practicing their religion.
    Our country was founded on the dual principles of individual religious freedom and government keeping out of religion. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”
    During a recent TV debate, when I pointed out that the First Amendment establishes the separation of church and state, my “opponent” actually argued that no such provision exists in the Constitution. So I started reciting the First Amendment, and she responded that it was merely an amendment, not part of the Constitution.
    Amendments are part of the Constitution. Is the Christmas season also the silly season?
    I don’t lose sleep over creches — or menorahs — in public places. But I can’t understand why my tax money should be used on either. Businesses can put up whatever decorations they want, but government shouldn’t be buying religious symbols to put in public places.
    The answer I get to that argument is that these aren’t just religious symbols. Of course they are. I have never had a Christmas tree, because I’m not Christian. My Christian friends don’t light menorahs. My Muslim friends don’t have either. To say that these aren’t religious symbols, it seems to me, is the real war on Christmas, the war against the religious significance of a sacred occasion.
    The Founding Fathers understood that religious freedom and religious observance go hand in hand; that if you want to encourage religion, you do it by keeping the government out of people’s religious lives. Insisting that the government wish those of us who aren’t Christian a “merry Christmas” dilutes the religious significance of the holiday, not to mention leaving those of us who don’t celebrate this holiday feeling excluded and disfavored.
    When I was a little girl, I was told that I couldn’t play Mary in our (public) school play — even though I had the longest hair, which would have guaranteed me the part — because I was Jewish. I went home crying, and my parents pointed out that Mary was Jewish, too.
    But not making trouble was the watchword, so I said nothing. From the back row of the chorus, I mouthed the words to the songs with the other Jewish kids and felt a loneliness deep inside because I understood that we were not only different, but somehow lesser. Why should any child feel that?
    Merry Christmas. Happy holidays.

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This just goes to show how the educational system is brain washing our children with their left wing ideology.


Attaching political innuendo like this is just as bad-shameful really - especially from  people who never take- or have taken full advantage of our  educational system -

Maybe you could explain to everyone what Xmas is really  about - without Your political agenda contaminating everything ?


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Christmas is about the birth of Christ, when schools forbid the display of anything remotely connected with his birth such as Christmas trees, angels, and refuse to even say Merry Christmas but instead insist on the phrase happy holiday. I went to a school play for one of my grand kids and in the play was mentioned the Menorah several times but not once was any Christian phrase included, that's shaping a young child's mind and is a form of indoctrination IMHO. This country was founded by those of Christian belief whether you like it or not and I for one will not cave in to the political correctness of those in the minority.  
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Separation of Church and State - Summary of Fact Vs. Deception
The current implied meaning of the "Separation of Church and State" metaphor and its use is just the opposite of what was intended and what historical facts justify. Our framers feared a state denominational church based upon European history. The constitutional restrictions were targeted at our government to prevent it from making a denominational religion the state church. We actually embraced the Christian Theism doctrinal religion as the state religion. Now we are rejecting any expression or symbol of our doctrinal religion, which our framers embraced. We are treating the doctrinal religion of our heritage like a virus that must be expunged from the public square. We also have inverted the original intent of the "Separation of Church and State" metaphor. The oppression that the Christian Theism religion is now undergoing through the ACLU and activist judges is the same evil that the establishment clause in our constitution was intended to prevent. Our current state religion of humanism is using the full power of the government to oppress the nonconformists to its doctrine, which is exactly the opposite doctrine of Christian Theism.
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Christmas is about the birth of Christ, when schools forbid the display of anything remotely connected with his birth such as Christmas trees, angels, and refuse to even say Merry Christmas but instead insist on the phrase happy holiday. I went to a school play for one of my grand kids and in the play was mentioned the Menorah several times but not once was any Christian phrase included, that's shaping a young child's mind and is a form of indoctrination IMHO. This country was founded by those of Christian belief whether you like it or not and I for one will not cave in to the political correctness of those in the minority.  


Is there a political philosophy regarding Santa Clause ?- or is he right on the line-  ?

and way back when the early Christians decided to celebrate the birth of Christ on the same day the pagans have/had  their biggest celebration of the year- the winter solstice- who thought that would be a problem- ?


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If Jesus is NOT the reason for YOUR season, Santa Claus will suit you just fine.  He is definitely NOT a religious figure even if you want to base his appearance on St. Nicholas.  Many years ago I went  quite balistic when at the end of the Christmas pageant at Mt. Carmel Church they had Santa come down the aisle to adorn the baby Jesus.  It was the dumbest thing I EVER saw.  Trying to marry the two concepts weakened NOT strengthened the theological.  IMHO.  
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Dont let public schools be the display of your religion.....hidden or otherwise......allow the study of religions.....but, the public schools are based on the
religion of the area and the predominate religion---the government steps in and checks the percentage and equalizes that......no one is more equal
than anyone else......otherwise we shall be no different than the Taliban and their religious laws that are much like the orthodox Jewish laws.....

Christ did ALL his soul/mind/spirit cleansing/searching in private,,,, only to slap at the physical laws/pageantry/tradition etc.......

,,,,,,it IS that personal......really.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Christ probably wasn't even born on 12/25. And as 'somebody' posted, this date was picked due to it's conflict with a major pagan holiday. S/he is correct on that one.

However, 12/25 IS the day that Christians have historically 'celebrated' the birth of Christ. A day of recognition if you will. But none of this really matters anyway. If it were being celebrated at any other time of the year......there would still be a 'politically correct' conflict.

It's just the name JESUS!  His name and what He represents pi$$ed people off 2000 years ago....and it remains the same yet today! IMHO


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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Christ probably wasn't even born on 12/25. And as 'somebody' posted, this date was picked due to it's conflict with a major pagan holiday. S/he is correct on that one.

However, 12/25 IS the day that Christians have historically 'celebrated' the birth of Christ. A day of recognition if you will. But none of this really matters anyway. If it were being celebrated at any other time of the year......there would still be a 'politically correct' conflict.

It's just the name JESUS!  His name and what He represents pi$$ed people off 2000 years ago....and it remains the same yet today! IMHO


12/25 was picked to COINCIDE with the winter solstice celebrations- Christians decided to  celebrate the birth of Christ at the same time -


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