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Hurricane Expert Rips Climate Fears

Tuesday, December 8, 2009 8:10 PM

By: Dr. William Gray  Article Font Size  





The following commentary is from Atmospheric Scientist and Hurricane forecasting specialist Dr. William Gray. Gray is the renowned hurricane forecaster and Emeritus Professor of Atmospheric Science at Colorado State University (CSU) and originally published this artiucle on ClimateDepot.com.






Had I not devoted my entire career of more than half a century to the study and forecasting of meteorological and climate events, I would have likely been concerned over the possibility of humans causing serious global climate degradation.


There has been an unrelenting quarter century of one-sided indoctrination of the Western world by the media and by various scientists and governments concerning a coming carbon dioxide (CO2) induced global warming disaster. These warming scenarios have been orchestrated by a combination of environmentalists, vested interest scientists wanting larger federal grants and publicity, the media which profits from doomsday scenario reporting, governmental bureaucrats who want more power over our lives, and socialists who want to level-out global living standards. These many alarmist groups appear to have little concern over whether their global warming prognostications are accurate, however. And they most certainly are not. The alarmists believe they will be able to scare enough of our citizens into believing their propaganda that the public will be willing to follow their advice on future energy usage and agree to a lowering of their standard of living in the name of climate salvation.


Rising levels of CO2 are not near the threat these alarmists have portrayed them to be. There has yet to be a honest and broad scientific debate on the basic science of CO2's influence on global temperature. The global climate models predicting large amounts of global warming for a doubling of CO2 are badly flawed. They should never have been used to establish government climate policy.


The last century's global warming of about 1 degree Fahrenheit is not a consequence of human activities. This warming is primarily the result of a multi-century changes in the globe's deep ocean circulation. These ocean current changes have lead to a small and gradual increase in the globe's temperature. We are coming out of the Little Ice Age and into a generally warmer climate state. This is akin to the warmer global climate of the Medieval Period. We can do nothing but adapt to such long period natural temperature changes.


The recent "Climategate" revelations coming out of the University of East Anglia are but the tip of a giant iceberg of a well organized international climate warming conspiracy that has been gathering momentum for the last 25 years. This conspiracy would become much more manifest if all the e-mails of the publically funded climate research groups of the US and of foreign governments were ever made public.


The disastrous economic consequences of restricting CO2 emissions from the present by as much as 20 percent by 2020 and 80 percent by 2050 (as being proposed in Copenhagen) have yet to be digested by the general public. Such CO2 output decreases would cause very large increases in our energy costs, a lowering of our standard of living, and do nothing of significance to improve our climate.


The cap-and-trade bill presently before Congress, the likely climate agreements coming out of the Copenhagen Conference, and the EPA's just announced decision to treat CO2 as a pollutant represents a grave threat to the industrial world's continued economic development. We should not allow these proposals to restrict our economic growth. Any United Nations climate bill our country might sign would act as an infringement on our country's sovereignty.

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China tells U.S.: No deal
By: Glenn Thrush
December 17, 2009 05:48 AM EST

COPENHAGEN — China’s climate negotiators have told Western counterparts they can’t agree to an “operational agreement” on climate change that President Obama had hoped to bring home from Copenhagen –- and will push for a short, noncommittal collective statement at the end of the talks, according to American staffers briefed on the situation.

It’s not clear if remarks by Chinese officials, made during negotiating sessions last night, signal the end of efforts to reach a significant agreement or simply represent an 11th hour bargaining tactic less than a day before Obama was due to arrive in Copenhagen.

But U.S. officials fear it's the former, with little time left to negotiate a real deal before COP 15’s conclusion Friday.

Lead U.S. negotiator Todd Stern told POLITICO late Wednesday that his staff had not engaged in one-on-one “bilats” with China for a whole day – and hadn’t even addressed a major issue, a proposed “border tax” on countries that flouted international accords. That provision was included in the cap-and-trade measure the House passed in July – and no bill omitting it is likely to pass the Senate.

The apparent stalemate coincides with the arrival in Copenhagen of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and a 20-member delegation of House members, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who had viewed the trip as a triumph following the lower chamber’s summer passage of a sweeping climate change bill.

If China has, in fact, pulled the plug it would deal a major blow to efforts by Democrats in the Senate to revive stalled efforts at passing vitally important companion legislation. Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) warned the conference Wednesday that the Senate isn’t likely to move if lawmaker perceive America taking more stringent steps than trading partners and rivals in China and India. ...................>>>>....................>>>>.................http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30718.html
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Originally published 06:40 a.m., December 17, 2009, updated 01:55 p.m., December 17, 2009
Clinton: U.S. ready to join $100B climate aid fund

Jan M. Olsen and John Heilprin ASSOCIATED PRESS

COPENHAGEN -- The United States is prepared to join other rich countries in raising $100 billion in yearly climate financing for poor countries by 2020, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton announced Thursday at the Copenhagen talks.

The U.S. declaration could give a boost to the deadlocked climate talks in the Danish capital, which have faltered over disputes between rich and developing countries on greenhouse gas emission cuts and aid to poor countries most affected by climate change.

Mrs. Clinton, however, said any U.S. funds were contingent on world leaders reaching a broader climate pact at the U.N. talks in Copenhagen. Negotiations have stalled amid disputes between rich and poor countries -- and between the two biggest carbon polluters, the United States and China.

Mrs. Clinton said any deal would have to include a system for ensuring that pledges to cut carbon emissions are fulfilled -- a demand that China staunchly opposes because it says its climate targets are voluntary. A similar demand was made by Japan when it announced Wednesday that it would provide $15 billion in public and private money by 2012 for developing countries.

"If there is not even a commitment to pursue transparency, that's kind of a deal-breaker for us," Mrs. Clinton told reporters.

"There has to be a commit to transparency. We have said it consistently," she said. "There is backing away from transparency. That, to us, undermines the whole effort."

Mrs. Clinton said the long-term climate financing of $100 billion would come "from a wide variety of sources" and would be focused mainly on forestry and adaptation "for the poorest and most vulnerable among us."

She urged all sides to seek common ground in the final stretch of negotiations.

"I understand that the talks have been difficult," she said, "and we will continue doing all that we can do, but the time is at hand for all countries to find common ground."

German Chancellor Angela Merkel, meanwhile, said the United States must offer deeper emission cuts and stressed the urgency of reaching a concrete climate agreement in Copenhagen.......................>>>>..........................>>>>.............................................http://washingtontimes.com/new.....?feat=home_headlines
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so here we are with some technology to 'read' the signs....do we really think we are that big???? really.....the only reason for pseudo-science(some
truth) is to promote jobs,research, and other new technology.....really.....if we didn't have the technology we have now(this computer/WWW) we
would have snail mail/smoke signals etc......

Maybe,,,,just maybe----there are other GIANT forces at work.....like the normal cycle of the earth or any other planet not yet discovered in the universe....
...we live on waterways, we use water and do we really think the coastlines stay still for us????


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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