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trustbutverify
November 7, 2009, 8:25am Report to Moderator
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“It’s frustrating, because we really want to focus on teaching our students instead of fighting for a fair contract,” she said.

A quote from the article above...sounds like a threat to taxpayers.  Pay or else your kids won't be our focus.  Wow...
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“It’s frustrating, because we really want to focus on teaching our students instead of fighting for a fair contract,” she said.

A quote from the article above...sounds like a threat to taxpayers.  Pay or else your kids won't be our focus.  Wow...


That's what they all say when they are negotiating for a new contract. Hey, don't blame the teachers. They are just taking their cues from their union leaders. If the teacher wants to 'teach', they can't cause their union leaders tell them what to do and say. Screw the taxpayers!  Ain't unions grand?


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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November 7, 2009, 10:36am Report to Moderator
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I can't imagine this community will stand for that...say it ain't so!
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I can't imagine this community will stand for that...say it ain't so!
They alway did. Perhaps the community is a bit smarter this time around.   CONTACT YOUR SCHOOL BOARD!



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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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I agree with BT--contact the school board--call Gary.  Although I do believe in unions for lots of reasons, I have always felt ambivalent about teachers unions (I am a teacher by trade) and nurses unions.  Under no circumstances should the kids get lost in the shuffle.  Yup call Gary--
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Anyone has his email or number? What can they do?  The teachers are protesting because of them, right?! lol
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Well I don't know for sure what he can do but he has kids in the district so his perspective might be helpful.  If you have kids in the district, why not ask their teacher for some written info re: the issue.  I would attempt it but would look disingenuous because none of my children went in the district.  Look we don't know, maybe the teachers are correct.  It's just hard to stomach somebody complaining about "raises" right now when everyone has taken a cut or lost their job and taxes are out of control.  The paper did sound like the teachers have been waiting a long time for resolution on this issue.  Gary's perspecitive might be interesting since he is on the board and his kids in the district.  Usually parents will side with the board...because who wants their kid getting sc**wed with a bad grade from a teacher who know you were b**ching about their increase.
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How about a contract that says:

Take the average of all 8th grade comp tests and all regents tests for the district for any given year and the schedule below generates the pay raise

90% = 3% raise for the next year
80% = 2% raise for the next year
70% = 1% raise for the next year
65% = 0.5% raise for the next year

No stepped pay increases

Tenure after 20 years not 3

I couldn't be easier

I as a taxpayer want great grades for the students

And the teachers want cash

Done!


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I think the no child left behind standardized tests are a freakin' waste of time.....learning is learning
testing out is testing out.....teach the kids to learn, stop stamping them like cattle.....

BTW,,,,I am a non-union nurse.....and if national healthcare goes through,,,,,guess who you'll be paying
out the butt for......yup---me.......I cant afford you and you cant afford me......

but what about a lotto game for healthcare,,,,,it's done just wonders for edumacation...what a foundation
for learning.....

maybe they purchased homes they really couldn't afford.....and their taxes are going up......the cost of
private schools to the taxes paid to public schools around here.....it's almost a wash......JMHO


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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the  teachers can't get the young adult children to pass a test that needs 37 correct answers
out of 100 just to pass and you want  you want both groups to work on learning....

put a standard in place for to take the pay leverage out of the equation and learning will follow

people with at least 5 years of higher education can't teach children to meet min standards set by this state!

looks like the children have the teachers, parents, admin, and taxpayers wrapped around their middle fingers


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I don't like the arrogance of some educators. I also don't like the arrogance of some parents.

Some teachers don't do their job. Not well anyway. And some parents are too busy with their own lives, or just plain don't give a damn,  to take a part in their kids education. School appears to have become the 'babysitter' and the 'moral compass' for some of these kids. School has become, sometimes unjustifiably' the 'blaming field', in some cases.

Kids need specified directions. And it will either come from the school system or the parents. Personally, and the way society is today,it takes both. Parents should be watching every single move that comes out of their school system. They need to speak up right from the get go.

For those parents who choose not to get involved, then they have no room to complain about their kids school system.

It's a two edge sword....some kids and parents don't give a damn and the teachers today are from the hippy generation.  So there ya have it.


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school budget planning begins in january....

we all are encouraged to take part.

our school district budgets are about 4 times the base town budget - this is an area to make a difference

maybe the Dems will close the two schools and join them to the schdy city schools in a start to create a county wide school district - -look we are saving money!!!

why else would you want a school principal on the town board?


with all that said should
you decide to step up be ready for a result much like
Esposito(teachers Union) vs O'conner(conservative taxpayer) 4 years ago

it would take the dems, reps, and nntp combined to defeat the teachers union


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with all that said should
you decide to step up be ready for a result much like
Esposito(teachers Union) vs O'conner(conservative taxpayer) 4 years ago

it would take the dems, reps, and nntp combined to defeat the teachers union


It would take the resurrection of a 'Hoffa for the taxpayers union'.....ya know like the Hatfields and the
McCoys....after this national healthcare issue.....they are next on the chopping block of sorts....pay attention to
the rhetoric that will come up......there are more folks like Raucci in the workings of this machine.....I think it
needs a new carburator......

again, ask why the legislators aren't facing the insurance companies and their regulations, they are a bunch
of edumacated millionaire lawyer types and all they are doing is tossing out a scapegoat of sorts.....

SHOW ME THE $$ TRAIL,,,,


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Ah BT stop blaming the hippie generation.  It was a good movement.  I am a teacher and chose not to send my kids to school in Rotterdam.  That being said, and I was lucky to be able to send them to private school, I was able to ride shot gun on what went on in their school.  But I still needed to rely on Mohonasen for things like speech therapy, busing etc.  In today's world a parent needs to be a partner in their kids education.  That doesn't mean they need to be a helicopter parent when they get to college but certainly prior to that.  BTW--the teacher's union never did anything for me.  I hated joining it.  And by btw the hippie generation brings a LOT to a classroom.  Things these teachers and administrators today are missing.  Oliver Robinson didn't even use good grammar as I recall in my dealings with him.  And he was totally oblivious to what else was going on in the world.
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Ah BT stop blaming the hippie generation.  It was a good movement.  I am a teacher and chose not to send my kids to school in Rotterdam.  That being said, and I was lucky to be able to send them to private school, I was able to ride shot gun on what went on in their school.  But I still needed to rely on Mohonasen for things like speech therapy, busing etc.  In today's world a parent needs to be a partner in their kids education.  That doesn't mean they need to be a helicopter parent when they get to college but certainly prior to that.  BTW--the teacher's union never did anything for me.  I hated joining it.  And by btw the hippie generation brings a LOT to a classroom.  Things these teachers and administrators today are missing.  Oliver Robinson didn't even use good grammar as I recall in my dealings with him.  And he was totally oblivious to what else was going on in the world.


It's always generational and traditional......that being said,,,,the choice statement of being lucky to be
able to send you kids to a private school is poor.....it was a choice you made and a choice you worked
for,,,take credit,,,,,those 'poor folks' you help in the city dont need luck they need better choice making
skills.....

I was sad when President Obama said he was lucky to make it where he is.....that is a sorry statement
for anyone....he should show how he worked for it.....and be a proud example....

I dont know about anyone else, luck exists, but to rely on it and use it to take credit for what one has
chosen to do also means not taking responsiblity if something goes wrong.....

look at those 'poor folks' lining up week after week for lotto tickets and scratch offs to garner some
of that luck......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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