Assuming your facts are correct, which they really are not in full, what have you done to make your grandfather of the Republican party proud ever by being a soldiers with boots on the ground in the ideological battle being waged here (besides the blog posts?) I thought this was about ATVs and if they should be banned? Can't you ever stay on topic instead of ripping the local GOP and trying to help the Democrats win back the town?

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Assuming your facts are correct, which they really are not in full, what have you done to make your grandfather of the Republican party proud ever by being a soldiers with boots on the ground in the ideological battle being waged here (besides the blog posts?) I thought this was about ATVs and if they should be banned? Can't you ever stay on topic instead of ripping the local GOP and trying to help the Democrats win back the town?

I'm not ripping the local GOP.  I'm just providing clarity to their message.  I thought I was actually helping advance their message.  If I misrepresented the message, please correct it.  This is a good opportunity for GOP supporters to correct any misrepresentation of their message.  I thought Mary Barrie's message was well articulated.  She was so persuasive that I went out and rented Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth.  It really opened my eyes to the atrocities that corporate America has done to the country.  

And to get back on topic, the Inconvenient Truth has made me realize that recreational vehicle use unnecessarily adds carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.  I will vote for Mary in hopes that she author legislation banning the use of ATV's in Schenectady County.  We need to do our part in saving the earth.

Not ALL people will agree with you all of the time. Why should you expect a lockstep group of Stepford candidates? I may be more conservative in my views but still accept that other people have different views that I don't share. That is called America. I wish they all agreed more with me but to think they would all be on the same page 100% of the time is rather frightening, and in that case we would be the Democrats in the county legislature. When you have such a group, you needn't have a legislature, one dictator with extreme powers then suffices (again- the Schenectady Democratic County Legislature.) So much for gumbah gangsters. I actually, as much as I have my views, don't hate people for having differnt ones, and sometime like to find common ground.

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Not ALL people will agree with you all of the time. Why should you expect a lockstep group of Stepford candidates? I may be more conservative in my views but still accept that other people have different views that I don't share. That is called America. I wish they all agreed more with me but to think they would all be on the same page 100% of the time is rather frightening, and in that case we would be the Democrats in the county legislature. When you have such a group, you needn't have a legislature, one dictator with extreme powers then suffices (again- the Schenectady Democratic County Legislature.) So much for gumbah gangsters. I actually, as much as I have my views, don't hate people for having differnt ones, and sometime like to find common ground.

I agree with you in part that not all people agree with anyone all of the time. However. our local GOP is endorsing candidates that believe and campaign on liberal ideals. Such as Barrie, And Suhrada. And Viscusi. Berrie and Ang are environmentalists. Suhrada is in favor of raising taxes. (supporting rems while not supporting glendale ) And Viscusi is proposing a tax break for in-law apts, which in turn places the tax burden on those who don't. This is clearly a liberal platform. As far from the GOP ideology as you can get.

H.Vell is supposedly a con running on and with a dem. (judy dago). Another example of an ideology gone amiss! H.Vell would have gotten my vote, but not while running as a dem with a dem. Just doesn't make any sense to me at all!

Funny isn't it how the dems are still staunch dems, but reps and cons are just flying by the seat of their pants all in the name of compromise. Well, we want staunch reps and cons....but there are none left. Only the NO NEW TAX party.

Back on topic....Barrie and Savage would surely compromise and ban ATV's all together. Barrie should have registered and run as a dem. Barrie would certainly be a nice fit on the county leg.IMHO

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Not ALL people will agree with you all of the time. Why should you expect a lockstep group of Stepford candidates? I may be more conservative in my views but still accept that other people have different views that I don't share. That is called America. I wish they all agreed more with me but to think they would all be on the same page 100% of the time is rather frightening, and in that case we would be the Democrats in the county legislature. When you have such a group, you needn't have a legislature, one dictator with extreme powers then suffices (again- the Schenectady Democratic County Legislature.) So much for gumbah gangsters. I actually, as much as I have my views, don't hate people for having differnt ones, and sometime like to find common ground.

I don't think I'm asking for lockstep, but at least in the same ideological ballpark.  The local GOP looks schizophrenic, casting Mertz aside for Suhrada, replacing Suhrada with Barrie, Santabarbara legislating a county wide ban on plastics.  Is there a political suicide note that corresponds with these moves?  What ideological image are they trying to project?  I could understand Suhrada and Barrie finding common ground while on opposite sides of the aisle...But within the same party?  The local GOP couldn't find common ground with proven conservative Councilman Mertz, but can find common ground with self proclaimed environmentalist Barrie.   

The dictatorship is within the local Republican Party.  Unless you're will to play party lemming and kiss the rings of Party leadership and sacrifice your ideological views to protect the party leadership positions of power, you need not apply.  Mertz, O'Connor, and Littlefield were denied endorsement. I guess because they were "too conservative".  I don't know.  With the No New Tax Party, at least you know what you're getting.  All 4 candidates’ messages are relatively similar.  In November we'll find out if it's the winning message.  

Every town/county needs an environmental Czar....to catch all that 'grant $$' and put it into their own pockets and friends of
animals and the animal burrows and into the plastic bottles with notes in them cast into the ocean to 'send a message'......

this is a web/paper ladder.......

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ROTTERDAM
Track noise an issue on town street
New law may set limit on distance
BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter

    When Philip Hurst bought his home on Dodge Street several years ago, he didn’t anticipate living next to an all-terrain vehicle and dirt bike track.
    Nowadays, he’s growing accustomed to hearing the sound of revving engines coming from the vacant property behind his street and along Westside Avenue. He said riders regularly do laps and even race on a course that was built in September and then expanded in November.
    “It’s not like they take two turns around it and they’re done,” he said. “They’re over there for hours on end.”
    Neighbor Kay Lifite agreed. She said the area is being overpowered by noise from the vehicles, which seem to multiply as time goes on.
    “It sounds like they’ve got 15 going at a time,” she said. “And I don’t even think they have a permit to do any of this.”
    Hurst and Lifite were among a contingent of residents who pleaded for the town to intercede last week. They claim Marc Della Villa, the property’s caretaker, is running an illegal racetrack.
    “While there are no trophies or checkerboard flags, these people are clearly racing,” Hurst told the Town Board Wednesday. “I can hear it in my shower, when I’m watching television and obviously when I’m in my backyard.”
    But Della Villa tells a different story. He said the light industrialzoned land is being used by his son and several friends, who built a course during their free time.
    Della Villa said the riders — he estimated about eight of them — use the property only during daylight hours and have used a decibel meter to ensure the noise coming from their machines is within acceptable limits. He said the sound likely is not as bad as if the site were being used for industry.
    “You can run bulldozers down there and you can operate factories there,” he said. “But here’s a group of kids who made a little project to use after school.”
    Rotterdam officials had consid- ered an ordinance to restrict the use of snowmobiles, ATVs and dirt bikes within 150 feet of any residence not located in an area zoned agricultural. The law received a positive recommendation from the town’s Planning Commission, but was never ratified by the Town Board, which had its last meeting of the year last week.
    In January, four new board members will take office and will have to decide whether to vote on the law. However, the ordinance likely wouldn’t affect the situation facing residences abutting the Della Villa property — if the vehicles were being used far enough away.
    Outgoing Supervisor Steve Tommasone used the situation as an example of why the town needs to make its zoning classifications more specific. He said the vague manner in which town zones are defined allows for very liberal interpretations.
    “If the zoning allows the use, pretty much all you can do is pull out a tape measure and say this is or isn’t allowed,” he said.
LONG HISTORY
    Della Villa’s Westside Avenue property has been a persistent source of annoyance for both town and state officials. In 2000, he pleaded guilty to violating state environmental laws by operating an illegal junkyard and was sentenced to probation.
    Della Villa ran afoul of the town’s junk vehicle law in 2005 and was eventually convicted. He was sentenced to serve 105 days in jail and pay $1,750 in fines but was released early after friends cleared the property to the town’s satisfaction.
    But less than five months after his release, state officials charged him with failing to clear piles of debris from the land as originally ordered. The charge amounted to a violation of his probation and Della Villa was ordered back to jail to serve the 105-day sentence.
    State Department of Environmental Conservation officials returned to the property in February 2008 and determined it still hadn’t been cleaned up to their satisfaction, according to spokesman Rick Georgeson. The matter was referred to the state Attorney General’s Office for enforcement in April, and Della Villa was assessed a $100,000 judgment.
    Assistant Attorney General Joseph Koczaja said the state could take a number of actions against Della Villa, including placing a lien on the property. He said the state could also find him in contempt of court, which could result in another jail sentence.
    “That is under consideration,” he said.

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The way I see it....della villa has a point. He can run bull dozers and heavy equipment on that land. But no ATV's?????

And Phil knew that when he bought his property ... as did all the other residents complaining.

Same situation as those in highbridge wanting fencing/walls along 890 ... you bought the property knowing that road was there, it's not something new. Deal with it.

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And Phil knew that when he bought his property ... as did all the other residents complaining.

Same situation as those in highbridge wanting fencing/walls along 890 ... you bought the property knowing that road was there, it's not something new. Deal with it.

The same thing happened when people bought homes in Eldorado acres. They 'knew' they were moving next to a 'gun club'. Yet complained after the fact.

It's zoned industrial now. Does that mean that a place like McLanes distribution center could go there?   What about the truck's impact on Westside Ave. and Heldeburg Ave? The residents? The small businesses? This town needs a revised/updated comp plan.

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And Phil knew that when he bought his property ... as did all the other residents complaining.

Same situation as those in highbridge wanting fencing/walls along 890 ... you bought the property knowing that road was there, it's not something new. Deal with it.

Typical response under your screen name...real brave

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Typical response under your screen name...real brave

You should learn to curb your attitude at the door ... I have a direct interest in what happens in this neighborhood. Do you?

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You should learn to curb your attitude at the door ... I have a direct interest in what happens in this neighborhood. Do you?

You think i have a attitude..you have not seen nothing yet.Yes i do have an interest