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July 27, 2009, 7:03pm Report to Moderator
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I was talking with an engineer tonight who shared with me that they're bringing in a crew to do a "survey" of the old Ingersoll Mansion on the point at State/Balltown.  Apparently, the ground is shifting a bit too much, causing some cracks in the foundation because they removed too much earth from around the building.

This is "supposed" to happen this week.

This oughta be interesting.
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That clear-cut job was designed to slap back at the preservationists if you want my opinion. I would bet they would love to tear that old building down to the ground if they have the excuse.


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That clear-cut job was designed to slap back at the preservationists if you want my opinion. I would bet they would love to tear that old building down to the ground if they have the excuse.
Looks like they've got one now. Shame!



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Just to clarify, I don't KNOW this to be factual - just information I was told tonight by an engineer from the project.  I guess it's something to keep an eye on.
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They certainly didn't leave much soil around the building and with the rain we've had I'm sure there's been erosion of some of the soil too. The contractor should be made to shore up the soil around the building in order to stop further damage.
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Knock it down----move on.......move on......

when the tours start....that last thing to be talked about will be it's purpose as an 'old folks home'.......certainly
doesn't make for good entertaining PR for the general public.....anyone ever see a major motion picture about
one???? Yeah,,,,me either.......

Ben Stiller in------Ingersoll, The Lost History of True Natural Science...........



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That building is magnificent! Perhaps they could have moved bellevue hospital there. cause the one they use now is like crap! OR they could have used it for the Glendale money pit!


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Just as a followup, I had dinner with that same enginneer last night and apparently they did do their evaluation. It was found to be stable, just some incidental "cracking" from the initial tear-down of the back additions from the building. All appeared to be fine. So, I guess this is a dead issue, cool.  

It's disgusting to see what they did to that property (clear cutting, etc) - but now that it's done, I wish they'd hurry up and get it rented/leased and brought back to "pretty".  I'd heard a rumor that Walgreens was interested - anyone ?
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  I'd heard a rumor that Walgreens was interested - anyone ?
HURRAY!



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Good for Walgreen's. They should tell the City where to go. Twice they tried to build on the corner of Brandywine and State and they were prevented by the stuna City Planning Commission. They were concerned about pedestrians? Like State St in dangerous Vale is some kind of Champs Elysee.

  The clear cutting was horrible and they was no reason for it other than spite. This would have been a great issue to use against unpopular Nisky DEM Supervisor Landry-if the REPS could get a candidate on the ballot?
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Good for Walgreen's. They should tell the City where to go. Twice they tried to build on the corner of Brandywine and State and they were prevented by the stuna City Planning Commission. They were concerned about pedestrians? Like State St in dangerous Vale is some kind of Champs Elysee.

  The clear cutting was horrible and they was no reason for it other than spite. This would have been a great issue to use against unpopular Nisky DEM Supervisor Landry-if the REPS could get a candidate on the ballot?


That was an out and out LIE.....smoke up someones a**......


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NISKAYUNA
No action yet on Crossings project Mansion at former Ingersoll site boarded up

BY STEVEN COOK Gazette Reporter

    Drivers heading south on Balltown Road, nearing Mohawk Commons, see an orange sign warning to watch for construction vehicles.
    The sign refers to the land across from the Mohawk Commons, the site of the old Ingersoll Home. It’s seen by countless shoppers every day, entering and exiting the shopping plaza.
    But there is no sign of construction vehicles entering and exiting. The sight for the past year has been of a boarded-up old mansion on land cleared of trees and bulldozed flat. The stately old homestead is perched above the surrounding cleared lot now, which once was a beautiful, treed landscape.
    Developers of the bitterly contested Stanford Crossings project could not be reached for comment last week. But town offi cials say they’ve been told by the developers the project to construct individual buildings for businesses and stores is very much active.
    “I’ve been speaking with Mr. Roth regularly, once a week,” town planner Kathy Matern said recently, referring to John Roth of Highbridge Development. “He doesn’t want to see it sitting there any more either.”
    The site plan approved in 2007 includes a half-dozen retail establishments to surround the old Ingersoll Residence, a former retirement home. The historic home, originally the Stanford Mansion, was to be reused, most often spoken of as a restaurant.
    Matern also said, however, she was told that the group looking to use it as a restaurant is now no longer interested. Despite that, the mansion is still to be the centerpiece of the project, she said.
    “All he tells me is that it will be renovated,” Matern said.
    As for the look of the mansion, boarded up, Matern said that some of the windows had to be removed as part of asbestos abatement.
    “He gave me his assurances that the building is OK,” Matern said.
    The property has garnered much interest, not only for the historic aspects, but also in that it is situated across the street from the busy Mohawk Commons. The entrance and exit gives shoppers a regular look at the flattened land and boarded-up mansion. The structure, the focus of preservationist efforts, has sat on a denuded plot since early last year, stripped to ready the site for development.
    Also taken down was an 80-yearold addition built specifi cally for the Ingersoll home. That was taken down last summer.
    Since those signs of movement, however, there has been little evidence of anything to passers-by. ................>>>>......................>>>>..............http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r01301&AppName=1
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This is an disgrace. They purposely clear cut the property and allowed the building to fall into disrepair.

    MT was ahead of his time (as usual). Call in some new engineers that will say knock it down. Matern is not a planner and should be run out of town on a rail. Typical of what passes for economic development over there.
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Don't developers prepare and check for 'anything'? It has been THREE years! They were quick to demolish....and there it sits?

Same thing in rotterdam.....first walgreens is a go...then nothing.

The confusion with the cvs on hamburg street/chrysler ave.

The old curry road shopping center....wth?


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Don't developers prepare and check for 'anything'? It has been THREE years! They were quick to demolish....and there it sits?

Same thing in rotterdam.....first walgreens is a go...then nothing.

The confusion with the cvs on hamburg street/chrysler ave.

The old curry road shopping center....wth?


The Walgreens smoke and mirror show was for the dumping ground of Mallozi's.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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