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I like the part that states that the Sheriff Department didn't get the funds that they were promised. Only a small portion of money collected is given to the police departments so if you really want to give to the police department then give them a check in person so you know where your money is really going.


Yeah, that is the check I write to pay my taxes.......not to mention the respect for the law that I try to instill in my kids......


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And that's another reason that I won't give when they call for money.  They're going to get it one way or another.  Why don't they look at the people who HAVE all the money in the county and call THEM looking for donations...or are they the ones hiring out the fundraisers?
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The PBA may not want to exert the effort to go out and collect the funds themselves, too lazy, so anything that Gotham collects is better than nothing.
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Help Batman....help......where is the commissioner??


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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The PBA may not want to exert the effort to go out and collect the funds themselves, too lazy, so anything that Gotham collects is better than nothing.


isn't that just ironic????


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http://www.oag.state.ny.us/charities/pennies98-2/table2def.html
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PROFESSIONAL FUND RAISER CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION GEO. AREA GROSS RECEIPTS NET TO CHARITY UNCOL-
LECTED PLEDGES % TO CHAR- ITY

Gotham Productions Inc Schenectady County Sheriffs Benevolent Assn 4  $193,854.00               $48,463.50 --- 25.00%
Gotham Productions Inc Schenectady Police Benevolent Assn 4               $235,842.68               $58,960.67 --- 25.00%
Gotham Productions Inc Scotia Patrolmen's Benevolent Assn Inc 4           $67,480.18                $16,905.05 --- 25.05%


This is just 3 of hundreds of charities this Gotham Productions collects for.
The first dollar amount (the largest) is what they actually collect.
The second dollar amount is what the charity gets.
And the last column is the percentage of what the charity gets.
Pathetic!


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I wonder if we could hire the company to fill out those forms to collect our rebate checks for us too ...........


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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I'm Gotham would be glad to give us 25% of the rebate check for their service. What a rip-off.
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Yeah, I bet they employ the Joker,,,or maybe the Penguin.....


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Don't blame Gotham.
Blame the stupid charities or organizations.
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I wonder if their employees get $20-$25 hour.......??


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http://www.dailygazette.com
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More rules needed for fund-raising telemarketers

   It’s not easy trying to solicit donations over the telephone, which is why so many nonprofit groups, politicians and public safety unions hire professionals to do the dirty work for them. But as a story in Thursday’s Gazette painfully reminded, telemarketers take a huge cut of the money they raise. And state law neither limits that cut nor requires telemarketers to disclose their percentage unless someone asks. In fact, people being solicited rarely even know when it’s a professional doing the soliciting. All these weaknesses in state law need to be addressed.
   Also disturbing in Thursday’s story were details about the current situation in Schenectady County, where unionized cops in the city, Glenville, Niskayuna and Rotterdam police departments have banded together to raise funds. They’ve named their organization the Schenectady County Police Conference, which sounds innocent enough, but it has apparently created some confusion because it does not include members of the county Sheriff’s Department. They and the Scotia Police Department’s Police Benevolent Association didn’t want to join because the new group is employing Gotham Production Inc. to do its fund-raising. Gotham is notorious for taking large cuts of the money it raises, and according to the sheriff’s group doesn’t pay as promised and engages in heavyhanded soliciting practices.
   Indeed, Gotham handed over just 26.6 percent of the $131,200 it raised for the Schenectady PBA last year, according to the state Attorney General’s Office. That’s dismal, although the state average is an almost-as-dismal 38.6 percent.
   Why can’t fund-raisers provide at least a 50-50 split to the organizations that hire them? Because they’re greedy, and because they can: Most of the organizations that hire them don’t care enough to employ other methods — some money is better than none — and the state doesn’t regulate the percentage of the take. The organizations should care — if for no other reason than out of respect for their donors, who probably wouldn’t give a dime if they knew where most of their money was winding up. And the state should minimally regulate what fund-raisers can take.
   As for disclosure, it needs to be better: Professional fund-raisers should be required to disclose just who they are and who they represent, without being asked. And if the state went a step further and required them to disclose how much money they kept, there probably would be no need for regulations regarding that amount: Donations would dry up so fast that fund-raisers would have to be less greedy.  



  
  
  
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Ok there 'Gazette'. You are a day late and a dollar short. We already had that information on this site!!


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I agree with that article the organization raising money for any group should be forced by law to state who they are, who they're representing, how much money will really go to the fund of the local organization, and also how much of their take is really profit for them.
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Quoted from bumblethru
Ok there 'Gazette'. You are a day late and a dollar short. We already had that information on this site!!


And this is a change how?
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