We as citizens of this country should be outraged at the way the government and environmentalists have shoved ethanol down our throats without first seeing if it would even work. They should scrap the whole ethanol plan and work toward something that will help instead of hinder the situation.
Just read an intersting tidbit in the Washington Post:
The corn required to make the 7.6 billion gallons of ethanol that are projected to be produced this yar would cover an area the size of Maryland, Connecticut, New Jersey and Washington DC!
I noticed yesterday that there is a gas station on the corner of Altamont Ave. and California St., JP Gas, has a large sign out front that says "No Ethanol". And the gas was $4.06/gal. That is the only one that I have seen that does not add Ethanol to their gas.
ALBANY Ethanol firm sues rival over port site BY JAMES SCHLETT Gazette Reporter
A Cooperstown company that has spent two years looking statewide for sites suitable for an ethanol bio-fuel plant is suing its former consultants who allegedly steered it away from Albany, where their rival firm was recently selected to pursue a similar project along the Hudson River. Empire State Ethanol and Energy on Friday filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court seeking over $72 million from the Lakewood, Colo. based-BBI International bio-fuel consulting firm plus three of its executives. They include vice president Jeff Kistner, senior manager Ed Stahl, and senior vice president and project manager Mark Yancey. Stahl and Kistner are the managing members of the Huntersville, N.C.-based Albany Renewable Energy, which in April won a lease for 18 acres at the Port of Albany for a proposed $240 million corn-based ethanol plant. Albany Renewable is also listed in the suit as a defendent, along with Bio-Fuel Resources. Empire State Ethanol’s suit comes less than two months after the Albany Port District Commission awarded that lease, which promises to yield the largest development in the port’s history. The Cooperstown firm alleges Albany Renewable secured that lease through deceptive and fraudulent practices. In September 2006, Empire State Ethanol contracted BBI to identify ethanol plant sites in New York and develop feasibility studies for them. BBI last year recommended several prospective plant sites, such as Oneonta. Empire State Ethanol also eyed Cobleskill for a plant. BBI is a leading worldwide consulting firm that has conducted development studies for over 200 U.S. ethanol plants. By last June, Kistner had taken control of the Empire State Ethanol project’s business planning and financial aspects, according to court documents. Empire State Ethanol last fall independently identified the Port of Albany as another potential site. But when the Cooperstown fi rm mentioned its interest in Albany to BBI, Yancey in November said a confidential technology project would prevent the consultants from undertaking the port proposal, according to court documents. Unknown to Empire State Ethanol then, the BBI executives were hatching plans for Albany Resources, “which was created for the purpose of constructing a competing bio-fuels facility in the state of New York, specifically at the Port of Albany,” the suit states. Empire State Ethanol managing member Christopher Von Zwehl did not realize his consultants were also his competitors until February. Kistner then in an e-mail allegedly told von Zwehl he had been a principal in Albany Resources since August. Tom Owens, the port commission’s general counsel, said he could not comment on the suit because he had not reviewed it. But he said “It appears to be a dispute between private parties.” Empire State Ethanol is seeking $57 million in compensatory damages in the form of lost earnings and lost profits plus $15 million in punitive damages.
With all of the flooding in the mid-west, wait to see how high ethanol will be. Just another thing that will raise prices on EVERYTHING!!
And we aren't even in the heart of hurricane season yet!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Anyone who has supported ethanol or continues to support ethanol as an alternative form of energy is a numb skull. Oil, Coal or nuclear is the about the only real source available to us today.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Anyone who has supported ethanol or continues to support ethanol as an alternative form of energy is a numb skull. Oil, Coal or nuclear is the about the only real source available to us today.
I guess no one is going to bring up ethanol made from cellulose- Brazil uses sugar cane As Brazil Fills Up on Ethanol, It Weans Off Energy Imports
David Luhnow Geraldo Samor The Wall Street Journal, 16 January 2006
RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil -- After nearly three decades of work, Brazil has succeeded where much of the industrialized world has failed: It has developed a cost-effective alternative to gasoline. Along with new offshore oil discoveries, that's a big reason Brazil expects to become energy independent this year. ( that was 2 years ago )
CAPITAL REGION ‘Real gas’ fading away as stations switch to ethanol BY JASON SUBIK Gazette Reporter Reach Gazette reporter Jason Subik at 395-3198 or jsubik@dailygazette.net.
Prab Maan, the owner of J.P. Gas & Mart in Schenectady, said he’s been able to attract customers to his business by selling gasoline that is more expensive than the competition. “Customers are very happy. They are very pleased. We get customers from like Troy, Albany. We get a lot of good comments,” Maan said. Regular unleaded gasoline at J.P. Gas & Mart is a little more expensive, $4.21 a gallon, because it is not blended with 9.5 percent ethanol, the E10 blend sold by most gasoline retailers in the Capital Region. Maan said he has made the choice to be one of the last gas stations in the region to sell “real gas” because his customers prefer it. “It gives you good mileage. It runs better in the cars. It’s a better product,” Maan said. Ethanol made in the United States is derived from corn alcohol and contains less energy than straight gasoline. Use of ethanol will reduce gas mileage, and because it burns at a higher temperature, it will heat up engines more. Experts dispute how much mileage is lost, although it’s generally considered to be about 2 percent. Ethanol distribution in the Capital Region began to spike last year after Houston-based ethanol trader BioUrja Trading purchased the former Cibro Petroleum Products Albany terminal and renamed the terminal Logibio Albany Terminal and enhanced its ethanol operation. With easy access to ethanol from Logibio, many of the gasoline terminals at the port of Albany began mixing E10. Since then, the federal government has mandated an increase in the amount of ethanol blended into gasoline sold throughout the nation, and federal tax credits for gasoline distributors and retailers have helped to encourage almost all of the gasoline terminals at the port to switch to blending E10. Louis Polsinello III, one of the owners of Rensselaer-based Polsinello Fuels, said the only terminal at the port of Albany where distributors can still buy “straight gas” is the Citgo Petroleum Corp. terminal on the Rensselaer side of the port. “There’s a tax credit benefit for the distributor and the retail location for selling the ethanol. The terminals are taking advantage of it. That’s really the only benefit, ethanol itself has really been right in line [in cost] with regular gasoline,” Polsinello said. Polsinello Fuels distributes unblended regular gasoline to about 50 stations in the region, most of them Citgo stations along with some Gulf and some unbranded independents, Polisinello said. He said most Citgo stations still sell straight gas but some may be buying “splash blended” E10 gasoline from distributors that mix ethanol into gasoline in distribution trucks. But soon they will all sell E10. “Citgo is [changing to E10 blend] as of next week. It’s a shame too, because I think the end customers are starting to see no end benefit usagewise for the cars. It’s kind of a shame because people are realizing now that the straight gasoline might not have been a bad deal for them as a consumer,” Polsinello said. Donald Greco Sr., the manager of Fairway Oil in Fonda, said his business does not sell E10 blend gasoline because it’s still able to get unblended gas from a distributor in Utica. He said a lot of his customers buy gas from him for their lawn mowers and other small engine machines because they are afraid E10 will overheat their motors. “I also own a go-cart track and I’m scared to use any gas with ethanol because [go-carts have] small engines,” Greco said. “People are also complaining that when they do use the ethanol-blended gas they don’t get as good mileage.” Greco said he hopes his business will continue to be able to buy gasoline not blended to the E10 level. Maan said he has another distributor near Rochester that he has been able to get straight gasoline from, but he isn’t optimistic he’ll be able to continue to do so for long because the tax credits are too enticing for distributors and retailers to turn down. He said he’s having his tanks cleaned to prepare them to pump E10. “It’s the end of the story. Everybody around here is going to have E10 pretty soon,” he said. PETER R. BARBER/GAZETTE PHOTOGRAPHER Anthony Parravani of Rotterdam fills up with ethanol-free gas at JP Gas and Mart in Schenectady on Thursday.
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