Global warming idea has widespread, not just liberals’, support
Richard Colyer’s May 24 letter, “Socialism behind Dems’ global warming agenda,” contains errors that invalidate his argument. First, he uses Al Gore’s name to try to distract attention from the fact that many scientists, after decades of observations, raised concerns over global warming that were then brought to the attention of the general public by Al Gore. Shooting the messenger won’t make the problem disappear. Mr. Colyer says, “many scientists who will not be quoted in the press claim that the higher CO2 levels are the result of global warming, not the cause.” How convenient that he has this strong evidence for which he cannot present witnesses. Such a claim would get a person laughed out of any court. He then claims that we have no control over the weather. Not long ago, there were those who claimed that the growing ozone hole over the South Pole was not the result of human activity, and that there was nothing we could do about it. Fortunately, CFCs (chlorofluorocarbons used as refrigerants) and other ozone-depleting chemicals were widely banned and the ozone hole has shrunk significantly. Clearly, human activity can affect large-scale atmospheric phenomena profoundly. He says, “Scientists are claiming that the next 10 to 15 years will be a period of global cooling due to shifting ocean currents.” Who are these unnamed scientists? That’s not what the Environmental Protection Agency, National Academy of Sciences, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) are saying. Lastly, he claims, without a shred of evidence, that global warming is part of a conspiracy by the “liberal/environmental wing of the Democratic Party.” Conspiracies are popular in urban mythology, but hard to find in the real world. The Environmental Protection Agency is part of the far-from-liberal Bush administration. The National Academy of Sciences and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration are scientific organizations that are not about to be dictated to by any political entity. The IPCC is a worldwide organization that is hardly controlled by an American political group. ROGER GRASIER Niskayuna
Roger fails to mention that any scientist who does not go along with the liberal view loses grants, gets belittled in the media, and in some cases forced out of their jobs. There's just as much evidence to point to the heat given off by the sun as the cause of global warming. Let's not rush into a bunch of crazy plans to stop global warming like we did with ethanol to fix the gas crisis.
Roger fails to mention that any scientist who does not go along with the liberal view loses grants, gets belittled in the media, and in some cases forced out of their jobs. There's just as much evidence to point to the heat given off by the sun as the cause of global warming. Let's not rush into a bunch of crazy plans to stop global warming like we did with ethanol to fix the gas crisis.
EXACTLY!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
If the dems/libs are in control....it's ALWAYS Kook-Aid season!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Roger fails to mention that any scientist who does not go along with the liberal view loses grants, gets belittled in the media, and in some cases forced out of their jobs. There's just as much evidence to point to the heat given off by the sun as the cause of global warming. Let's not rush into a bunch of crazy plans to stop global warming like we did with ethanol to fix the gas crisis.
SHOW ME THE $$ TRAIL........
New things are only learned by history........
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Senate begins debate on global warming bill BY H. JOSEF HEBERT The Associated Press
WASHINGTON — The Senate began what is expected to be a weeklong, contentious debate Monday over legislation to combat global warming by mandatory reductions in carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. Senators voted 74-14 to proceed to the bill, but immediately it became clear Republican opponents were not going to make it easy. A request by Democrats to begin considering substantive changes in the bill was blocked by GOP opponents until Wednesday at the earliest. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada promised a thorough debate that will probably last through the week, if not longer. He said it’s clear that “global warming is real” and Congress must act. But supporters of the bill acknowledged it will be difficult — perhaps impossible — to overcome a certain GOP filibuster threat against the legislation, meaning congressional action on global warming will probably be decided in the next Congress and by the next president. Many of the GOP senators who voted to debate the issue have said they are opposed to the bill. The Senate measure, which has wide Democratic and some Republican support, would cap U.S. emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases, cutting them by 18 percent by 2020 and by two-thirds by mid-century. It would specifically target refineries, power plants, factories and transportation for 70 percent reductions and make emissions allowances available to be traded in an open market. Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., a chief architect of the 500-page bill, said at a news conference the urgency of taking action against climate change cannot be overstated, declaring, “It’s about our children, about their children, and about the planet we’ve inherited.” Democratic leaders were ready to spend the week, and possibly more, on the legislation. But the tone of the debate emerged in the opening hours. Republican leader Mitch Mc-Connell of Kentucky called it “a giant tax on virtually every aspect of the economy,” and accused Democrats of being “laughably out of touch” in taking up the bill when the country is reeling from $4 a gallon gasoline and other high energy costs. President Bush said at a White House event that the measure amounted to “a huge spending bill fueled by tax increases” and that it “would impose roughly $6 trillion in new costs on the American economy.” White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said Bush would veto the bill as it stands, but said it seems unlikely the legislation will clear the Senate anyway. The White House maintained the carbon limits would “impose a huge new tax” while demanding “drastic emission cuts that have no chance of being realized and have every chance of hurting our economy.” The bill would raise gasoline taxes by 53 cents a gallon by 2030, said the White House statement, a position ridiculed by the bill’s sponsors. “People would be thrilled to have gas prices rise only 2 cents a year,” declared Sen. Joe Lieberman, a Connecticut independent and co-sponsor of the legislation. Alluding to carbon-intensive industries, such as most utility companies, Lieberman acknowledged “real resistance from people who don’t want to change” and fear the shift away from fossil fuels. Getting 60 votes to overcome a filibuster is “going to be hard,” he said. Boxer said it was “misinformation and an untruth” to suggest that the climate legislation would impose new taxes or raise gasoline prices.
I'm going to start a new link, opposed to this. It is from a blog of a Conservative Radio talk show host, Mike Church, and is posted on his website, http://www.mikechurch.com.
He's doing a series, so I think I'll make it a separate link, titled "Global Cooling for Dummies."
I'm going to start a new link, opposed to this. It is from a blog of a Conservative Radio talk show host, Mike Church, and is posted on his website, http://www.mikechurch.com.
He's doing a series, so I think I'll make it a separate link, titled "Global Cooling for Dummies."
I consider Armchair Science entertainment ( lay people posting science papers- ) Maybe cut and paste some research on cold fusion whie your at it-
Have you Bumble and Senders seen the cover of the new SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN this month ?
Science/research is based on alot of theory hence the 'stimuli' for further research,developments and 'facts'---drink milk dont drink milk, eat fish dont eat fish, stand on your head for 15min a day, etc etc........
while the theory of global warming currently appears to be a fact........how long has the earth been in existence and exactly what happened to the dinosaurs???/
who actually knows..........
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
here's some arm chair science----as the governments push Political Correctness the world will become flat and so will our hearts and minds.......
One scientist wrote a book adressing layman armchair science-
May 9, 2008
Scientists Know Better Than You--Even When They're Wrong Why fallible expertise trumps armchair science—a Q&A with sociologist of science Harry Collins By JR Minkel
Mr. Gore has a degree in what?......he is poster boy arm chair scientist.....although I do think we impact the earth,,,,but I also dont think the earth is weak or soft or whatever the lingo is......it's been here for how long?----I think we as the creatures we are in universe freak when a river changes its path(over a long period of time, like we didn't see it coming) or when earth quakes happen(this would freak me out)....but, they all happen......
there is science at both ends of the spectrum for and against global warming.......now if there is other proof that we were dropped here by a passing space ship and we really are about to self destruct, and I was never told---boy, someones in trouble......
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
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